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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #60 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 11:46pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 6:47am:

On a national level?

I'm not an expert but from what I've been able to find there is not a breakdown based on ethnicity like that.

This is where the data gets less reliable in this area.

There were more than that number of women killed in this time period, but this is meant to focus on domestic and family violence.

Indigenous family and kinship groups are much larger so it impacts the numbers and reporting, so a lot of that data is estimates.

Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander people, who were disproportionately represented in IPV homicide offenders (27%) and victims (27%) compared with their representation in the general population (3.2%).

That takes us to a fork in the road.

To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.

The usual suspects however, are looking for justification to do the opposite and point to this data as reasons why they're unworthy of closing the gap and the more mentally disturbed point to that need as proof of the voice by stealth.

The motivation of the poster will determine the conclusion they choose.

Personally I see this as a problem that can be addressed by working towards closing the gap, but I'm sure the "round em up and shoot them" crowd will see things differently.

I responded to point out that you seem concerned that of the majority of domestic violence deaths in the Northern Territory being that of indigenous offenders was misrepresentation of the national domestic violence deaths. Domestic violence among indigenous people is 35 times the rate of non-indigenous.

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Between 2000 and 2004, there were 150 deaths due to assault among Indigenous Australians
in the four jurisdictions.
Indigenous females and males were nearly ten and nine times more likely to die due to
assault as non-Indigenous females and males, respectively.
The death rate was highest among people aged 35–44 years.

Source

Given non-indigenous Australians outnumber indigenous Australians in the year 2004 by about 19 million to 500,000, it is worrisome that there was 150 of the 578 deaths from domestic violence attributed to indigenous people -- between the year 2000 and 2004.

It certainly is.

There is no doubt that they're over represented in the statistics.

The difference is, a sane and rational person would look at those numbers and want to find solutions to help them and their communities reduce those numbers.

I wish I had the answers on how to do that, but even that is getting too far ahead of ourselves.

The numbers are being put in the spotlight as a deliberate ploy to portray all members of their community, of their ethnicity, as baby raping murderers, therefore rather than working say towards "closing the gap" or providing them any sort of help towards better infrastructure in their communities, better education and employment opportunities, we should instead be punishing them, withdrawing support etc as they're unworthy "because of the numbers", all the way to pushing justification for past support for their genocide.

Usually when a normal person identifies a problem, their normal human response is to look for a solution.

In this case the problem is being highlighted to justify hate.

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #61 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #62 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #63 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #64 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:34am

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 11:46pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 6:47am:

On a national level?

I'm not an expert but from what I've been able to find there is not a breakdown based on ethnicity like that.

This is where the data gets less reliable in this area.

There were more than that number of women killed in this time period, but this is meant to focus on domestic and family violence.

Indigenous family and kinship groups are much larger so it impacts the numbers and reporting, so a lot of that data is estimates.

Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander people, who were disproportionately represented in IPV homicide offenders (27%) and victims (27%) compared with their representation in the general population (3.2%).

That takes us to a fork in the road.

To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.

The usual suspects however, are looking for justification to do the opposite and point to this data as reasons why they're unworthy of closing the gap and the more mentally disturbed point to that need as proof of the voice by stealth.

The motivation of the poster will determine the conclusion they choose.

Personally I see this as a problem that can be addressed by working towards closing the gap, but I'm sure the "round em up and shoot them" crowd will see things differently.

I responded to point out that you seem concerned that of the majority of domestic violence deaths in the Northern Territory being that of indigenous offenders was misrepresentation of the national domestic violence deaths. Domestic violence among indigenous people is 35 times the rate of non-indigenous.

Quote:

Between 2000 and 2004, there were 150 deaths due to assault among Indigenous Australians
in the four jurisdictions.
Indigenous females and males were nearly ten and nine times more likely to die due to
assault as non-Indigenous females and males, respectively.
The death rate was highest among people aged 35–44 years.

Source

Given non-indigenous Australians outnumber indigenous Australians in the year 2004 by about 19 million to 500,000, it is worrisome that there was 150 of the 578 deaths from domestic violence attributed to indigenous people -- between the year 2000 and 2004.

It certainly is.

There is no doubt that they're over represented in the statistics.

The difference is, a sane and rational person would look at those numbers and want to find solutions to help them and their communities reduce those numbers.

I wish I had the answers on how to do that, but even that is getting too far ahead of ourselves.

The numbers are being put in the spotlight as a deliberate ploy to portray all members of their community, of their ethnicity, as baby raping murderers, therefore rather than working say towards "closing the gap" or providing them any sort of help towards better infrastructure in their communities, better education and employment opportunities, we should instead be punishing them, withdrawing support etc as they're unworthy "because of the numbers", all the way to pushing justification for past support for their genocide.

Usually when a normal person identifies a problem, their normal human response is to look for a solution.

In this case the problem is being highlighted to justify hate.

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

no one who argues that these differentials are linked to racial differences thinks they are "melanin" related lol

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #65 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:35am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

Poor conservatives. Perpetually triggered by buzz words.

But let's face it, the buzz words were always intended to trigger. It's a fantastic distraction while the resource sector and every entitled white dude on a board gets fat.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #66 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:45am

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

Poor conservatives. Perpetually triggered by buzz words.

But let's face it, the buzz words were always intended to trigger. It's a fantastic distraction while the resource sector and every entitled white dude on a board gets fat.

Not me - I'm just adding to the quotes here - seems a few of you are triggered by any discussion .... you always focus on the wrong part of your post - the post itself.

Closing the gap' you say? Which gap was that this time? So what are you going to do about 'the gap'? Send the man with the crowbar to make 'im wider?

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #67 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:48am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:45am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

Poor conservatives. Perpetually triggered by buzz words.

But let's face it, the buzz words were always intended to trigger. It's a fantastic distraction while the resource sector and every entitled white dude on a board gets fat.

Not me - I'm just adding to the quotes here - seems a few of you are triggered by any discussion .... you always focus on the wrong part of your post - the post itself.

Closing the gap' you say? Which gap was that this time? So what are you going to do about 'the gap'? Send the man with the crowbar to make 'im wider?

"One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage."

76 out of 81 women in the NT will not agree with you .... but then they can't speak, can they?

How many were killed in houso at the same time? How many of THOSE are in the same demographic? Name a group that has a chosen lifestyle that is far from work etc. .... has to be one somewhere in Australia...

As usual, you lot are long on rhetoric and short on facts ...... figures show that it is indeed an Aboriginal issue at a far higher rate ... you do understand 'rate' don't you?

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Reply #68 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:57am

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

So why is everyone from all sides of politics doing it Mothra? Do you think it makes it harder or easier to address the issue without acknowledging the elephant in the room?

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Reply #69 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:29am

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20wome...

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Reply #70 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:53am

Boris wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:29am:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20wome...

And then?

What should we be advocating for to help reduce those stats?

Should we be working towards closing the gap?

Should we give them an advisory body to weigh in on what sorts of things we should be doing to help?

How do we help?

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Reply #71 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 11:03am

We start by forcing them to see the error of their ways ... (that'll trigger the kid - now let's ramp it up).... the old ways are gone - they can no longer lolly-gag in the warm sun and beat the missus at leisure and blame whartey for it all.... time they got into the 21st Century ... you can't just lay claim to a swathe of land these days - them ancient rules of empire are gone.... time to put all this nonsense to bed as the Australian people required of their government at a referendum.

Clearly they need to be forced to it..... no other way than mainstreaming them and cutting them loose to find their own way .... they've had over 200 years to get with the program... many have ... time for the rest to wake up and catch up. 76 out of 81 women (93% by 30% of the NT population - about 10% at most men) seems a fair indication..... now then - we need all these figures broken down by demographic .... that's the effluent in the room .... 76 out of 81 - shame, Aboriginal Australia - SHAME!

Jeez - our two greatest victims here - saddie the whining laddie and mothra 'been hurt by so many' - did-ums!

Come in, spinner ........

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Reply #72 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 11:35am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

Boris wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:29am:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20wome...

And then?

What should we be advocating for to help reduce those stats?

Should we be working towards closing the gap?

Should we give them an advisory body to weigh in on what sorts of things we should be doing to help?

How do we help?

Close the gap.

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Reply #73 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 11:53am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

Boris wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:29am:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20wome...

And then?

What should we be advocating for to help reduce those stats?

Should we be working towards closing the gap?

Should we give them an advisory body to weigh in on what sorts of things we should be doing to help?

How do we help?

They have to evolve or become extinct - it is all up to them - their choice.

They make choices and face the consequences of those choices - like all people everywhere.

50% of them choose to smoke cigarettes - bad choice - only they can choose to not smoke.

It is the same with substance abuse and violence - their choices again - that is wiping them out.

It is their responsibility and theirs alone - not yours and not mine nor anyone else's.

Go live in the NT and see for yourself

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Reply #74 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 11:58am

"the gap" will still be around in 100 years haha

i wonder if there's ever going to be a point where people are going to start asking "is this stuff actually fixable?"

the experience of african americans in the u.s and the countless attempts to 'fix' their respective gaps (including through some of the most radical behavioural interventions possible) that have all completely failed is instructive here

but yeah i'm sure some more after school mentorship programs, re-packaged pedagogical quack methods and basketball courts at the local youth club will be enough to correct for literally thousands of years of differential human evolution

the real solution is to simply stop caring about their problems and start ignoring them; we could be curing cancer, unlocking the secrets of biological immortality and traversing the stars, but we've decided to devote our societal efforts to uplifting an atavistic, irrelevant and eternally troublesome sub-section of the world's population instead, one that you could in a totally non politically correct world reasonably argue is not even the same species as us

i suspect that's what extraterrestrials totally unacquainted with contemporary human political sensitivites would think if they arrived on earth tomorrow and compared boongs to white people or oriental east asians

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