What is the difference? One good one not so much? Both good/bad?


In La cucina italiana non esiste, published on Tuesday, the food historian Alberto Grandi has risked his reputation by stating that a number of Italy’s most jealously guarded dishes developed thanks to influences from overseas.

“I may be seen as the enemy here in Italy, but this country has done well to create an image of its food and wine which did not exist as recently as 50 years ago,” he told The Times.

Pizza as we know it may have been invented in Naples in the 19th century, but if tomato was added back then, it was pieces of fresh tomato, not sauce, said Grandi, who teaches at the University of Parma.

“Tomato sauce did exist after it was introduced from Spain in the 18th century, but it was not preserved,” he said. “Only when it started to be canned in the US and taken back to Italy did it start to be used on pizza at the start of the 20th century.”

Today, the Italian prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has seized on the task of protecting Italian culinary traditions from foreign meddlers as a way of pushing her patriotic agenda.

“The risk is confusing patriotism, which means saying we have the best food, with nationalism, which is saying outsiders are trying to destroy our culture,” said Grandi.

“The real problem is that today Italians lack an identity, and food has stepped into the breach,” he added.

mothra wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 7:19am:

How is that pertinent in any way?


Is defending national cuisine, character, values etc - what ARE they? - patriotic or nationalistic?

What's the diff?

mothra wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:14am:


It is an article from The Times, you stupid little bint.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/italian-cuisine-does-not-exist-food-historian...

mothra wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 8:43am:



It is mentioned in the OP, you malicious, blind, devious little shhitt. You just didn't read it, you only wanted to squawk and screech, half-cocked as always. The whole OP IS from the The Times article, except the first line of my questions, clearly separated from the text of the article.

And the whole Op may well be fromn the Times article ... but you didn't cite it in the OP.

You never do.

Frank wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 9:16am:




There is no mention of Time Magazine in the OP, nor is there a link to the article.

But then again, you're mad for a bit of plagiarism, aren't you fruitbat.

mothra wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2024 at 9:19am:



The Times, stupid bint, not Time Magazine.

Have a look at the OP. It is your Challenge of the Day, moronic, thick little septic pimple.

Can there be "first nations fashion" or is it blatant cultural appropriation in reverse?  Isn't like "first nations typography"?

Is constant reference to "First Nations" patriotic, nationalistic, chauvinistic or anachronistic?