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Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 12:50pm:
“It's not a question of reefs dying or reefs disappearing, it's reef ecosystems transforming into a new configuration,” says marine biologist Terry Hughes, from James Cook University in Townsville, Australia.


This is the very same Terry Hughes who declared great patches of it "dead".

"Two-thirds of the corals in the northern part of the Great Barrier Reef have died in the reef’s worst-ever bleaching event, according to our latest underwater surveys."

Terry Hughes

Distinguished Professor, James Cook University, James Cook University

https://theconversation.com/how-much-coral-has-died-in-the-great-barrier-reefs-w...

Now apparently it has only changed symbionts. Something that is entirely natural; unless you really believe Terry Hughes. Roll Eyes

Poor JM has been fooled more than once by Terry Hughes. It reminds me of a quote... something about being fooled once. Wink
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Reply #1 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:21pm
 
Monk is easily fooled by conmen and grifters.
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2024 at 6:24pm
 
JM likes to show the aperture for CO2 in his climate function. Wink

Now if CO2 is increasing, why is OLWR (Outgoing Long Wave Radiation) going up? Because according to the theory CO2 traps the OLWR and should therefore reduce the amount of OLWR.

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Not seeing it. Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2024 at 6:32pm
 
Monk is a conman and grifter.
He sells hair tonic down at his local backwater Tasmanian markets. So far, he still has bumfluff for a beard.
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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2024 at 6:50pm
 
OLWR -

Outgoing Longwave Radiation   -   Climate Model

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/1/10/1520-0442_1988_001_0998_aeo...
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2024 at 7:25pm
 
Poor JM -

Jovial Monk wrote on May 14th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
For the other easily duped idiot posting in “Environment” lees would do well to read:

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/10/10/1539


From his paper -

" The OLR has been rising since 1985, and correlates well with the rising global temperature. An observational estimate of the derivative of the OLR with respect to temperature of 2.93 +/− 0.3 W/m2K is obtained. "

So now CO2 doesn't trap OLR. It is the clouds. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Of course JM doesn't say how it both traps and increases OLWR.

And it even includes the precise graphic. Wink

"This substantial warm bias is identified at global scales over land (Allan et al., 2022) and may be linked to a positive energy imbalance of about 1 W·m−2 in the model's pre-industrial spin-up experiment and underestimation of outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) in the pre-industrial control experiment compared to observations (Tatebe et al., 2019).

https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/joc.8169

Warm biases? Underestimation of OLR pre-industrial? But the science is settled. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #6 - May 15th, 2024 at 12:34pm
 
"For this figure I’ve picked off a few model simulations from the CMIP5 archive (just one realization per model), computed annual means and then used a 7 yr triangular smoother to knock down ENSO noise, and plotted the global mean short and long wave TOA fluxes as perturbations from the start of this smoothed series. The longwave (L) and shortwave (S) perturbations are both considered positive when directed into the system, so N = L +S is the net heating.  The only external forcing agent that is changing here is CO2, which (in isolation from the effects of the changing climate on the radiative fluxes) acts to heat the system by decreasing the outgoing longwave radiation (increasing L). But in most of these models, L is actually decreasing over time, cooling the atmosphere-ocean system.  It  is an increase in the net incoming shortwave (S) that appears to be heating the system —  in all but one case.  This qualitative result is common in GCMs.  I have encountered several confusing discussions of this behavior recently, motivating this post."

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/blog_held/46-how-can-outgoing-longwave-increase-as-co2-increases/
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Reply #7 - May 15th, 2024 at 5:41pm
 
Or another one -

"The greenhouse effect is well-established. Increased concentrations of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, reduce the amount of outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) to space; thus, energy accumulates in the climate system, and the planet warms."

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1412190111
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Reply #8 - May 15th, 2024 at 6:29pm
 
What about all the cities and the activity and lights that light up the night-side like fires.
Is the warming being affected or increased by the night side of the planet, when it should be the cooling side?
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Reply #9 - May 30th, 2024 at 4:25pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 4:14pm:
Nice warm day?

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New Delhi recorded its highest temperature ever measured on Wednesday — 126 degrees Fahrenheit, or 52.3 degrees Celsius —


Ouch!

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In New Delhi, where walking out of the house felt like walking into an oven, officials feared that the electricity grid was being overwhelmed and that the city’s water supply might need rationing.

The past 12 months have been the planet’s hottest ever recorded, and cities like Miami are experiencing extreme heat even before the arrival of summer. Scientists said this week that the average person on Earth had experienced 26 more days of abnormally high temperatures in the past year than would have been the case without human-induced climate change.



India is not alone. Note that there is no El Nino boosting temperatures. This is AGW.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/world/asia/india-delhi-hottest-day-ever.html



So there is no such thing as UHI? Grin Grin Grin Grin

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/delhi-population

Or this?

"Record 52.9 degrees Celsius in Delhi's Mungeshpur was 'error in sensor': IMD"

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/national/heat-wave-intensifies-in-north-cent...

or this?

"The Safdarjung weather observatory, which serves as the marker for the entire city, registered a maximum temperature of 46.8 degree Celsius on Wednesday, the highest in 80 years. It was six degrees higher than the normal expected at this time of the year, and the highest that the station has recorded since 1944. But it was substantially lower than the temperature at Mungeshpur, located on the northern outskirts of Delhi, bordering Haryana."

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/at-52-3-degrees-celsius-delhi-rec...

or this? -

"Tonga’s volcanic eruption could cause unusual weather for the rest of the decade, new study shows "

https://theconversation.com/tongas-volcanic-eruption-could-cause-unusual-weather...
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Reply #10 - May 30th, 2024 at 5:11pm
 
And then -

Jovial Monk wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 4:51pm:
He then mentions some other readings, higher than the one I mentioned, one of which was wrong, apparently. What relevance this foofaraw has to anything I don’t know.


The 52.3C as reported by Aljazeer was at Mungeshpur, so perhaps the NY times was wrong. Wink

"People in northern India are struggling with an unrelenting, weeks-long heatwave, with temperature in India’s capital soaring to a national record-high of 52.3 degrees Celsius (126.1 Fahrenheit), the government’s weather bureau said.

The India Meteorological Department (IMD), which reported “severe heatwave conditions”, recorded the temperature in the New Delhi suburb of Mungeshpur on Wednesday afternoon, smashing the previous national record in the desert of Rajasthan by more than one degree Celsius."

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/5/29/photos-north-india-swelters-as-new-d...


Never let a good crisis go to waste. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

And the IMD is still blaming the AWS. Wink
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Reply #11 - May 30th, 2024 at 6:16pm
 
So poor JM doesn't understand about faulty AWS. Apparently it means it is ok at 52.3 but not ok at 52.9. Wink

"Union Minister of Earth Sciences Kiren Rijiju addressed the anomaly in a post on X, stating that the recorded temperature of 52.3 degrees Celsius in Delhi is "very unlikely" and is not yet official. He indicated that senior IMD officials are verifying the data.

"It is not official yet. Temperature of 52.3 °C in Delhi is very unlikely. Our senior officials in IMD have been asked to verify the news report. The official position will be stated soon," Kiren Rijiju said in the post."

https://www.indiatvnews.com/delhi/imd-clarifies-record-52-degrees-celsius-delhi-...

But good enough for JM's purposes. Wink
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Reply #12 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 1:49pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 7:53am:
More UHI  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Scott Duncan@ScottDuncanWX·13h

Record heatwave unfolding in the Middle East.

Iraq 🇮🇶 records its first 50°C (122°F) in the month of May and Kuwait 🇰🇼 breaks its May national record with 50.6°C (123°F).

So let's see -

Iraq (actually Basra) supposedly recorded 50C in May. On May 31. Actually not.

31 May made 49C.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/iraq/basra/historic

Past two weeks. Oh dear. Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 5:10pm
 
Poor JM. He can't even verify the blogs he uses. Grin Grin Grin Grin

They said it, it must be true. Wink
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Reply #14 - Jun 4th, 2024 at 1:24pm
 
Monk is a drunk who plays 'spin the bottle' with himself when making predictions.  Grin
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