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Reply #75 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 11:12am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 11:05am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:58am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:54am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:47am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:43am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:40am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:18am:
I think mothras post went so far over your head that it's in the clouds. 

No, it didn't.

A similar point could be made about men preferring a dog over a woman if the man is referring to a woman's capacity for reputation destruction.

The point would have been better made if the woman referred to preferring, say, cats over men.

Using the bear analogy is a blue-hairs, ham twot thing.



Sure you missed the point.  That you think a cat would have been a better analogy shows you have no idea what the point was. Let me know if you need to have it explained to you

I'm, guessing you're a wife-basher to see the analogy as valid.

The vast majority of men are not violent towards women. All wild bears will eventually attack/kill you.


Is that the worst a bear is capable of - mauling and/or killing?


Have you got it in you to maul or kill a woman?


This is not about a particular man or a particular bear - it's about men and bears in general, and what they are capable of as a species.

I asked you a very simple question: Is that the worst a bear is capable of - mauling and/or killing?

The answer is 'yes'.

A bear will not rape or torture. They won't tie a woman up and devise evil ways to make her suffer.

Now ask yourself: is a man capable of raping and/or torturing a woman?

Could a woman scare away a bear?  Could they scare away a man?

Has the penny dropped yet?

The very worst a bear can do to a woman is maul and kill her.

A man, on the other hand, can do that and much more.

I perfectly understand why women are choosing the bear.

How many men do you know rape and torture women?




You're missing the point.  Sooooooooooooo missing the point.

It's about the capabilities of the human male as a species versus the capabilities of a bear as a species.


No, the authors chose bears in comparison to men as a ridiculous hyperbole. Of course they knew bear encounters are dangerous, that's why they used it.

They could have used crocs or sharks but, in Australia, the hyperbole wouldn't have worked.
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Re: Man or Bear
Reply #76 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 11:12am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 11:05am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:58am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:54am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:47am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:43am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:40am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 10:18am:
I think mothras post went so far over your head that it's in the clouds. 

No, it didn't.

A similar point could be made about men preferring a dog over a woman if the man is referring to a woman's capacity for reputation destruction.

The point would have been better made if the woman referred to preferring, say, cats over men.

Using the bear analogy is a blue-hairs, ham twot thing.



Sure you missed the point.  That you think a cat would have been a better analogy shows you have no idea what the point was. Let me know if you need to have it explained to you

I'm, guessing you're a wife-basher to see the analogy as valid.

The vast majority of men are not violent towards women. All wild bears will eventually attack/kill you.


Is that the worst a bear is capable of - mauling and/or killing?


Have you got it in you to maul or kill a woman?


This is not about a particular man or a particular bear - it's about men and bears in general, and what they are capable of as a species.

I asked you a very simple question: Is that the worst a bear is capable of - mauling and/or killing?

The answer is 'yes'.

A bear will not rape or torture. They won't tie a woman up and devise evil ways to make her suffer.

Now ask yourself: is a man capable of raping and/or torturing a woman?

Could a woman scare away a bear?  Could they scare away a man?

Has the penny dropped yet?

The very worst a bear can do to a woman is maul and kill her.

A man, on the other hand, can do that and much more.

I perfectly understand why women are choosing the bear.

How many men do you know rape and torture women?




You're missing the point.  Sooooooooooooo missing the point.

It's about the capabilities of the human male as a species versus the capabilities of a bear as a species.




Indeed. Who one feels more likely risk from.
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Reply #77 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:35pm
 

Anyone seen Cocaine Bear?

It's hilarious   Grin

Really, give it a go - I was pleasantly surprised.

It only gets 5.9/10 on IMDB, which I think is a bit unfair.


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Reply #78 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:35pm
 
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Reply #79 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:35pm:
Anyone seen Cocaine Bear?

It's hilarious   Grin

Really, give it a go - I was pleasantly surprised.

It only gets 5.9/10 on IMDB, which I think is a bit unfair.





I've seen it offered but wrote it off as ridiculous.

So bad it's good or just surprisingly better than one would expect?
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Reply #80 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:44pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:35pm:
Anyone seen Cocaine Bear?

It's hilarious   Grin

Really, give it a go - I was pleasantly surprised.

It only gets 5.9/10 on IMDB, which I think is a bit unfair.





I've seen it offered but wrote it off as ridiculous.

So bad it's good or just surprisingly better than one would expect?


Strangely enough, a bit of both   Undecided

It's a good bit of fun, and it has a great cast including Ray Liotta, Margo Martindale, and Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
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Reply #81 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:46pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
No, one was walking along a creek and the other camping,  and i doubt either have a clue what US/Canadian guidelines are.

So they didn't encounter and hang out with wild bears, then.
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Reply #82 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:35pm:
Anyone seen Cocaine Bear?

It's hilarious   Grin

Really, give it a go - I was pleasantly surprised.

It only gets 5.9/10 on IMDB, which I think is a bit unfair.





I've seen it offered but wrote it off as ridiculous.

So bad it's good or just surprisingly better than one would expect?


Strangely enough, a bit of both   Undecided

It's a good bit of fun, and it has a great cast including Ray Liotta, Margo Martindale, and Jesse Tyler Ferguson.




Ok, i'll check i'll check it out with the fam tonight. Let you know what we reckon.
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Reply #83 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:54pm
 
Let's see if there's a shark/croc hyperbole used in Australia.

"I'd rather swim in shark-infested waters"

"I'd rather camp near croc-infested waterholes"

I'm guessing there won't be.

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Reply #84 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:56pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
No, one was walking along a creek and the other camping,  and i doubt either have a clue what US/Canadian guidelines are.

So they didn't encounter and hang out with wild bears, then.


What are you, slow? I already told you they've encountered bears.

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They could have used crocs or sharks but, in Australia, the hyperbole wouldn't have worked.

The OP didn't originate in Australia dumbarse.
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Reply #85 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:58pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
Let's see if there's a shark/croc hyperbole used in Australia.

"I'd rather swim in shark-infested waters"

"I'd rather camp near croc-infested waterholes"

I'm guessing there won't be.




Those are not equatable scenarios.
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Reply #86 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:59pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
No, one was walking along a creek and the other camping,  and i doubt either have a clue what US/Canadian guidelines are.

So they didn't encounter and hang out with wild bears, then.

Kept their distance, did they? Or did they run up and try to give them a cuddle?
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Reply #87 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
Let's see if there's a shark/croc hyperbole used in Australia.

"I'd rather swim in shark-infested waters"

"I'd rather camp near croc-infested waterholes"

I'm guessing there won't be.




Those are not equatable scenarios.

Why would that be? They're all apex predators.
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Reply #88 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:07pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
Let's see if there's a shark/croc hyperbole used in Australia.

"I'd rather swim in shark-infested waters"

"I'd rather camp near croc-infested waterholes"

I'm guessing there won't be.




Those are not equatable scenarios.

Why would that be? They're all apex predators.


Because nobody has suggested the woods are "infested" with bears.

One bear. Of indeterminate species. In the woods.
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Reply #89 - Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:11pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:07pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 2:02pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 1:54pm:
Let's see if there's a shark/croc hyperbole used in Australia.

"I'd rather swim in shark-infested waters"

"I'd rather camp near croc-infested waterholes"

I'm guessing there won't be.




Those are not equatable scenarios.

Why would that be? They're all apex predators.


Because nobody has suggested the woods are "infested" with bears.

One bear. Of indeterminate species. In the woods.

Maybe an old blind bear with three legs, then...
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