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Reply #75 - May 7th, 2024 at 7:59am
 
The high school dropout claims both main Parties are two wings of the same (unofficial) Party.

Now he tries to castigate Vic Labor but because he is a complete idiot mixed it up with Federal debt.


Govt debt {Yawn!}

The last of the debt from the Great Depression and WWII were paid off by the Whitlam govt. Apart from the Whitlam govt none of the governments (mostly under stupid Menzies) paid the debt from Budget surpluses. Federal government debt is paid by expansion of the economy.

If the moron known widely as Goober wants to blame someone for Victoria’s debt he should blame the Lib NSW government that allowed the plague ship full of covid sufferers to dock and the passengers to depart to wherever they were bound.

But he has no brains, does not want to debate just posture and troll so he has filled this nonsense thread with dreck.
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Reply #76 - May 7th, 2024 at 9:07am
 
Notice that the idiot does not try to debate? Takes brains to debate, easier for the clown to just repeat his stupid post.
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Reply #77 - May 7th, 2024 at 11:48am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 6:11pm:
The high school dropout claims both main Parties are two wings of the same (unofficial) Party.

Now he tries to castigate Vic Labor but because he is a complete idiot mixed it up with Federal debt.


Govt debt {Yawn!}

The last of the debt from the Great Depression and WWII were paid off by the Whitlam govt. Apart from the Whitlam govt none of the governments (mostly under stupid Menzies) paid the debt from Budget surpluses.


Federal government debt is paid by expansion of the economy.


This is important; slavishly reducing debt via budget surpluses will hinder expansion of the economy.

....which aligns with the MMT axiom the government's debt is the private sector's surplus - since the debt is owed to private sector bond-holders. (Of course a currency-issuer doesn't NEED to borrow, but that's another story, explained in the MMT thread).

 




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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #78 - May 7th, 2024 at 12:48pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 11:48am:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 6:11pm:
The high school dropout claims both main Parties are two wings of the same (unofficial) Party.

Now he tries to castigate Vic Labor but because he is a complete idiot mixed it up with Federal debt.


Govt debt {Yawn!}

The last of the debt from the Great Depression and WWII were paid off by the Whitlam govt. Apart from the Whitlam govt none of the governments (mostly under stupid Menzies) paid the debt from Budget surpluses.


Federal government debt is paid by expansion of the economy.


This is important; slavishly reducing debt via budget surpluses will hinder expansion of the economy.

....which aligns with the MMT axiom the government's debt is the private sector's surplus - since the debt is owed to private sector bond-holders. (Of course a currency-issuer doesn't NEED to borrow, but that's another story, explained in the MMT thread).




Labor just wants to stay in power -

even if the country is ruined.


Halfwits vote for them.
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #79 - May 7th, 2024 at 2:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
John Smith wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 5:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 7:11am:
Federal Govt.  Roll Eyes



once again goober shows why he's considered by EVERYONE to be the village idiot



Smith,
apologise - you Labor cockwomble.

Your party has ruined our country - not only Victoria.



No need to prove your idiocy on a daily basis  Goober.
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Reply #80 - May 7th, 2024 at 2:59pm
 
Not one Labor voter here including:
Greggy,
Monk,
Smith,
TGD

have shown any remorse by apologising for voting for Labor.

They won't accept the blame for ruining our country
by leaving us with 100 years of debt that can never be paid off.

As we speak - more money is being printed -
as Labor continues to spend more money than they receive in taxes.
Even if we get the Libbos back in power -
what the hell are they going to do about it?
We're stuffed.

Budget today in Victoria.
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Reply #81 - May 7th, 2024 at 4:02pm
 
The high school dropout claims both main Parties are two wings of the same (unofficial) Party.

Now he tries to castigate Vic Labor but because he is a complete idiot mixed it up with Federal debt.


Govt debt {Yawn!}

The last of the debt from the Great Depression and WWII were paid off by the Whitlam govt. Apart from the Whitlam govt none of the governments (mostly under stupid Menzies) paid the debt from Budget surpluses. Federal government debt is paid by expansion of the economy.

If the moron known widely as Goober wants to blame someone for Victoria’s debt he should blame the Lib NSW government that allowed the plague ship full of covid sufferers to dock and the passengers to depart to wherever they were bound.

But he has no brains, does not want to debate just posture and troll so he has filled this nonsense thread with dreck.

BTW there will be a Budget surplus the next financial year. Now whinge about high tax rates, retard!      
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Reply #82 - May 7th, 2024 at 4:35pm
 
No remorse from the village idiot.

Monk probably voted for sodomite marriage too.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #83 - May 7th, 2024 at 5:05pm
 
channel 10 news - 

Victoria debt $26 million per day in interest on Dan's debt.

Budget tonight.

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Reply #84 - May 7th, 2024 at 5:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
No remorse from the village idiot.

Monk probably voted for sodomite marriage too.   Roll Eyes


Just to please you I voted Yes in the same sex marriage plebiscite.
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Reply #85 - May 7th, 2024 at 5:59pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
No remorse from the village idiot.



No need to boast about it goober, we all know you're incapable of remorse
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Reply #86 - May 7th, 2024 at 8:13pm
 
News about the Victorian Budget released today:

https://www.afr.com/politics/victorian-debt-to-hit-188b-as-labor-budget-shirks-c...


Ratings warning over Victoria’s $188b debt.


Rating agencies have put the Victorian government on notice after it revealed state debt would climb to $188 billion in a budget which paused the Melbourne Airport Rail project and delivered $400 handouts for families, but failed to drastically cut spending.

Premier Jacinta Allan is counting on a growing economy and an interest rate cut later this year, which Treasurer Tim Pallas said he “fully expects to see”, to curb the state’s $26 million-a-day interest bill.

The budget came on the same day the Reserve Bank warned rates would stay higher for longer because of sticky inflation. Mr Pallas delivered a $15.2 billion deficit on Tuesday, with net debt growing from $156 billion next year to $188 billion by 2028, but forecast an operating surplus of $1.5 billion by 2025-26.


S&P Global Ratings analyst Anthony Walker said Victoria, which was downgraded two notches in 2020 from AAA to AA to become the worst rated state in Australia, could face another downgrade to AA- if state debt reached 240 per cent of operating revenues, or interest payments reached 10 per cent of those revenues.

S&P analysis previously warned Victoria carried a greater debt burden than 10 similar sub-sovereign states in Canada and Germany.

“We expect Victoria’s gross debt as a proportion of revenues to soar past 200 per cent of operating revenues,” Mr Walker said. “This is the highest among the Australian states and stems from successive operating deficits and its large capex since the pandemic hit in late fiscal 2020.

“Debt to operating revenues has almost tripled since this time. Victoria’s serviceability costs are also rising.”

Tuesday’s budget had no new taxes or levies for the first time in several years, although waste and fire levies will increase.


The Property Council of Australia slammed the government for “the complete absence of budget measures to alleviate the tax burden” to get more apartments and townhouses built. Residential landowners are already bracing for the extension of the Vacant Residential Land Tax, which will apply to all “vacant” properties from next year.

“Government’s revenue from state taxes is set to continue its steady upward trajectory, with total tax revenue expected to increase by more than $8 billion over the next five years, which represents a 22 per cent increase,” said Craig Whatman, tax partner at Pitcher Partners.
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #87 - May 7th, 2024 at 10:46pm
 
I think that Dan Andrews is insane.

He's a megalomaniac.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/megalomaniac


He shut down the whole State over a couple of Covid cases  -
we had some of the longest lockdowns in the world -
5.5 million people under house arrest over a cold -
why didn't someone tap him on the shoulder and say - look Dan - you're a nut?

Then he borrowed fantastic amounts of money
100s of billions -
that we could never repay for improving the train infrastructure etc.
I mean it was a great idea but we couldn't afford it.

No one in his Labor Party stopped him -
they are all gutless cowards -
worried about keeping their jobs rather than what was best for the State and our future.
Dan turned into a dictator and they were all too scared to speak out.
We'll never pay that debt off - even in 50 years.
Every day it's draining $26 million in interest alone
and our debt will only increase.
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Reply #88 - May 8th, 2024 at 7:44am
 
Goober, you are aware that Dan Andrews is no longer premier, right? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #89 - May 8th, 2024 at 7:48am
 
John Smith wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 7:44am:
Bobby, you are aware that Dan Andrews is no longer premier, right? Grin Grin Grin Grin



Of course I know that but the stink he left behind
will be with us long after I'm gone.
He stuffed Victoria for at least the next 50 years - maybe 100 years.

Labor is like a disease - it ruins economies.
We can't ever win with Labor in power.
Labor are losers and they make us all losers too.
Halfwits like you and Monk vote for them.   Roll Eyes
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