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Reply #90 - May 8th, 2024 at 7:57am
 
You used to vote for Labor until IQ bullied you into sounding like a right whinger.

You have no understanding of public finance—that is because you are a moron with no education.
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #91 - May 8th, 2024 at 7:58am
 
John Smith wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 7:44am:
Bobby, you are aware that Dan Andrews is no longer premier, right? Grin Grin Grin Grin



Of course I know that but the stink he left behind
will be with us long after I'm gone.
He stuffed Victoria for at least the next 50 years - maybe 100 years.

Labor is like a disease - it ruins economies.
We can't ever win with Labor in power.
Labor are losers and they make us all losers too.
Halfwits like you and Monk vote for them.   Roll Eyes

Monk even admitted to voting for sodomite marriage.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #92 - May 8th, 2024 at 8:01am
 
News about the Victorian Budget released yesterday:

https://www.afr.com/politics/victorian-debt-to-hit-188b-as-labor-budget-shirks-c...


Ratings warning over Victoria’s $188b debt.


Rating agencies have put the Victorian government on notice after it revealed state debt would climb to $188 billion in a budget which paused the Melbourne Airport Rail project and delivered $400 handouts for families, but failed to drastically cut spending.

Premier Jacinta Allan is counting on a growing economy and an interest rate cut later this year, which Treasurer Tim Pallas said he “fully expects to see”, to curb the state’s $26 million-a-day interest bill.

The budget came on the same day the Reserve Bank warned rates would stay higher for longer because of sticky inflation. Mr Pallas delivered a $15.2 billion deficit on Tuesday, with net debt growing from $156 billion next year to $188 billion by 2028, but forecast an operating surplus of $1.5 billion by 2025-26.


S&P Global Ratings analyst Anthony Walker said Victoria, which was downgraded two notches in 2020 from AAA to AA to become the worst rated state in Australia, could face another downgrade to AA- if state debt reached 240 per cent of operating revenues, or interest payments reached 10 per cent of those revenues.

S&P analysis previously warned Victoria carried a greater debt burden than 10 similar sub-sovereign states in Canada and Germany.

“We expect Victoria’s gross debt as a proportion of revenues to soar past 200 per cent of operating revenues,” Mr Walker said. “This is the highest among the Australian states and stems from successive operating deficits and its large capex since the pandemic hit in late fiscal 2020.

“Debt to operating revenues has almost tripled since this time. Victoria’s serviceability costs are also rising.”

Tuesday’s budget had no new taxes or levies for the first time in several years, although waste and fire levies will increase.


The Property Council of Australia slammed the government for “the complete absence of budget measures to alleviate the tax burden” to get more apartments and townhouses built. Residential landowners are already bracing for the extension of the Vacant Residential Land Tax, which will apply to all “vacant” properties from next year.

“Government’s revenue from state taxes is set to continue its steady upward trajectory, with total tax revenue expected to increase by more than $8 billion over the next five years, which represents a 22 per cent increase,” said Craig Whatman, tax partner at Pitcher Partners.
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria
Reply #93 - May 8th, 2024 at 8:48am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 7:58am:
Of course I know that but the stink he left behind
will be with us long after I'm gone.


He made Victoria Great again. You should thank him
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #94 - May 8th, 2024 at 11:57am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 11:48am:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 6th, 2024 at 6:11pm:
The high school dropout claims both main Parties are two wings of the same (unofficial) Party.

Now he tries to castigate Vic Labor but because he is a complete idiot mixed it up with Federal debt.


Govt debt {Yawn!}

The last of the debt from the Great Depression and WWII were paid off by the Whitlam govt. Apart from the Whitlam govt none of the governments (mostly under stupid Menzies) paid the debt from Budget surpluses.


Federal government debt is paid by expansion of the economy.


This is important; slavishly reducing debt via budget surpluses will hinder expansion of the economy.

....which aligns with the MMT axiom the government's debt is the private sector's surplus - since the debt is owed to private sector bond-holders. (Of course a currency-issuer doesn't NEED to borrow, but that's another story, explained in the MMT thread).




Labor just wants to stay in power -

even if the country is ruined.


Halfwits vote for them.


Er.....why are the Libs on the nose with the electorate - not ONE LNP government on the mainland?
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Reply #95 - May 8th, 2024 at 1:13pm
 
Victoria paying $25,000,000 interest per day.
And a call to stop all infrastructure …
There’s this nightmare roundabout where works started 4 months ago near us… and they put barriers up to make 2 lanes into one. Nothing has been done in last 2 months and traffic at peak times are horrendous and slow!
So there we have it, half done job and made it worse than ever.
Not happy Jan!  Angry

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/interest-bill-piling-victoria-state-054724909....


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Reply #96 - May 8th, 2024 at 1:23pm
 
While on about finance… how about this rort…
ATO… to make payment of tax by instalments…12% tax!
Such BS. Should be half that! How can they get away with such crap.
Who gets 12% interest on their savings?
And Re: inflation they want us to refrain from spending, and save… well what incentive is there with crap interest on savings.
Fair dinkum ATO….. you’re standing in it!
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria
Reply #98 - May 8th, 2024 at 1:48pm
 
Sophia wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:13pm:
Victoria paying $25,000,000 interest per day.
And a call to stop all infrastructure …
There’s this nightmare roundabout where works started 4 months ago near us… and they put barriers up to make 2 lanes into one. Nothing has been done in last 2 months and traffic at peak times are horrendous and slow!
So there we have it, half done job and made it worse than ever.
Not happy Jan!  Angry

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/interest-bill-piling-victoria-state-054724909....


Given your aversion to paying tax  (see your 2nd post), what is your policy for funding infrastructure?
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Reply #99 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:03pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:48pm:
Sophia wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:13pm:
Victoria paying $25,000,000 interest per day.
And a call to stop all infrastructure …
There’s this nightmare roundabout where works started 4 months ago near us… and they put barriers up to make 2 lanes into one. Nothing has been done in last 2 months and traffic at peak times are horrendous and slow!
So there we have it, half done job and made it worse than ever.
Not happy Jan!  Angry

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/interest-bill-piling-victoria-state-054724909....


Given your aversion to paying tax  (see your 2nd post), what is your policy for funding infrastructure?


I didn’t write of any aversion of paying tax… I have a dislike of the ATO charging 12% for paying in instalments. I thought it excessive!
Half that would suffice don’t you think?
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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #101 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:22pm
 
Sophia wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:23pm:
While on about finance… how about this rort…
ATO… to make payment of tax by instalments…12% tax!
Such BS. Should be half that! How can they get away with such crap.
Who gets 12% interest on their savings?
And Re: inflation they want us to refrain from spending, and save… well what incentive is there with crap interest on savings.
Fair dinkum ATO….. you’re standing in it!



I don't understand that.
Surely you only pay tax in advance for the correct amount that
you'd end up paying at the end of the financial year?


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Re: Bankrupt Victoria - Labor can't manage money
Reply #102 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:26pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 11:57am:
Bobby. wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Labor just wants to stay in power -

even if the country is ruined.


Halfwits vote for them.


Er.....why are the Libs on the nose with the electorate - not ONE LNP government on the mainland?



Labor tricked the voters -
they never mentioned that they would allow mass immigration -
putting severe pressure on rental accommodation and house prices.
It also puts strains on: hospitals, schools, roads, railways and social security.

Immigration is great - we were built on immigration -
but there has to be limits and this year we will see 1 million more immigrants.
It's just far too many.
Where are these people supposed to live?
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Reply #103 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:30pm
 
Sophia wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:03pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:48pm:
Sophia wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 1:13pm:
Victoria paying $25,000,000 interest per day.
And a call to stop all infrastructure …
There’s this nightmare roundabout where works started 4 months ago near us… and they put barriers up to make 2 lanes into one. Nothing has been done in last 2 months and traffic at peak times are horrendous and slow!
So there we have it, half done job and made it worse than ever.
Not happy Jan!  Angry

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/interest-bill-piling-victoria-state-054724909....


Given your aversion to paying tax  (see your 2nd post), what is your policy for funding infrastructure?


I didn’t write of any aversion of paying tax… I have a dislike of the ATO charging 12% for paying in instalments. I thought it excessive!
Half that would suffice don’t you think?


Yes. In fact there should be NO interest charged on people who can't afford to pay tax in one go.

BUT - back to the topic; how should "bankrupt" Victoria pay for essential infrastructure? 
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Reply #104 - May 8th, 2024 at 2:37pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 2:26pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 11:57am:
Bobby. wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Labor just wants to stay in power -

even if the country is ruined.


Halfwits vote for them.


Er.....why are the Libs on the nose with the electorate - not ONE LNP government on the mainland?



Labor tricked the voters -
they never mentioned that they would allow mass immigration -
putting severe pressure on rental accommodation and house prices.
It also puts strains on: hospitals, schools, roads, railways and social security.

Immigration is great - we were built on immigration -
but there has to be limits and this year we will see 1 million more immigrants.
It's just far too many.
Where are these people supposed to live?



Oh... so Labor is in power everywhere on the mainland because Labor tricked the electorate  on immigation. 

Nice one, both sides are signed up to a 'big Oz' policy. 

And Morrison added $half a trillion to national debt, to avoid social collapse during the pandemic. 
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