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Reply #30 - May 11^th, 2024 at 1:41pm

The title of this thread is classic FD obfuscation: he claims the CCP is supporting terrorisn because the CCP hasn't condemned Hamas.

https://press.un.org/en/2023/ga12548.doc.htm

General Assembly Adopts Resolution Calling for Immediate, Sustained Humanitarian Truce Leading to Cessation of Hostilities between Israel, Hamas.

Member States Fail to Adopt Amendment Condemning 7 October Terrorist Attacks by Hamas in Israel

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Reply #31 - May 11^th, 2024 at 2:51pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2024 at 1:28pm:

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The CCP wants to solve the conflict, criticizing Hamas won't establish UN 242.

What about stopping the slaughter?

Er - you are confused again: the slaughter since Oct 8th is an affront to the whole world - including what happened on the 7th.

So why is the CCP unwilling to condemn Hamas for it?

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Reply #32 - May 12^th, 2024 at 12:59pm

freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2024 at 1:28pm:

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The CCP wants to solve the conflict, criticizing Hamas won't establish UN 242.

What about stopping the slaughter?

Er - you are confused again: the slaughter since Oct 8th is an affront to the whole world - including what happened on the 7th.

So why is the CCP unwilling to condemn Hamas for it?

Because the CCP knows condemnation of Hamas is insufficient and will only justify and embolden Israel's continued illegal occupation of Palestine - and the current genocide in Gaza.

UN recognition of Palestine, with or without Israel's 'permission', is required now to end the conflict.

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Reply #33 - May 12^th, 2024 at 1:25pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 12:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

So why is the CCP unwilling to condemn Hamas for it?

Because the CCP knows condemnation of Hamas is insufficient

That is some curious logic. Did the CCP come up with that, or did you just make it up on their behalf?

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Reply #34 - May 13^th, 2024 at 12:37pm

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 1:25pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 12:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

So why is the CCP unwilling to condemn Hamas for it?

Because the CCP knows condemnation of Hamas is insufficient

That is some curious logic. Did the CCP come up with that, or did you just make it up on their behalf?

Maybe - I can't speak for the CCP.

Meanwhile, the CCP like 143 other countries including Oz, want a two state solution, achieved by allowing more rights to Palestinians in UN processes, to that end.

The CCP are now concerned with the current revenge genocide in Gaza, after the Oct 7th revenge genocide in Israel; death toll so far 1200 Israelis, 13,500 Palestinians.

And what is the origin of this endless cycle of revenge attacks?

Answer: the Partition of Palestine, a concept dreamed up by Judeo Christian imperialists (ironically just as the British empire itself was disintegrating, and the Brits wanted out of the Palestine Mandate).

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Reply #35 - May 13^th, 2024 at 12:40pm

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I can't speak for the CCP

You speak for them all the time. You are their parrot.

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And what is the origin of this endless cycle of revenge attacks?

Answer: the Partition of Palestine, a concept dreamed up by Judeo Christian imperialists (ironically just as the British empire itself was disintegrating, and the Brits wanted out of the Palestine Mandate).

So the partition of Palestine is both the cause of, and the solution to, all the violence?

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Reply #36 - May 13^th, 2024 at 2:15pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 12:40pm:

You speak for (the CCP) all the time. You are their parrot.

Refuted recently, have you forgotten already?

eg, I'm rotten with the CCP for not eliminating graduate - indeed ALL - unemployment., as well as the Evergrande debacle...

Hardly a spokesman for the CCP.

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the Partition of Palestine, a concept dreamed up by Judeo Christian imperialists (ironically just as the British empire itself was disintegrating, and the Brits wanted out of the Palestine Mandate)

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So the partition of Palestine is both the cause of, and the solution to, all the violence?

(sigh) - the partition plan (dreamt up by Judeo Christian imperialists) is the original cause of the violence; the solution requires the establishment of 2 states (as envisioned by the plan) with security guaranteed by the UNSC, to end the conflict.

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Reply #38 - May 14^th, 2024 at 6:59am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 5^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2024 at 4:45pm:

Of course Islam is the cause of the conflict worldwide.

What conflict are you referring to?

If the US did not have military bases in muslim lands, and if Israel had not been created (Bin Laden's two main complaints), Islamic terrorism would not exist.

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Reply #39 - May 14^th, 2024 at 2:23pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

So the cause of the violence is the plan to partition Palestine into two states,

yes - because it involved confiscation of land against the will of those already living there.

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and the solution is to create two states, which is completely different?

Yes - given the first error is now entrenched; the only solution to stop the violence is to fulfil the plan as envisioned, NOW, given RW Jews are demanding all of Palestine for themselves.

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Do you think the Islamic belief that the land belongs to Islam and any kind of Jewish rule cannot be tolerated has anything to do with the violence?

Of course, as noted above.

That's why the UNSC is required to grow a set, 'read the riot act'....and implement the damn plan.

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Reply #40 - May 14^th, 2024 at 2:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

So the cause of the violence is the plan to partition Palestine into two states,

yes - because it involved confiscation of land against the will of those already living there.

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and the solution is to create two states, which is completely different?

Yes - given the first error is now entrenched; the only solution to stop the violence is to fulfil the plan as envisioned, NOW, given RW Jews are demanding all of Palestine for themselves.

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Do you think the Islamic belief that the land belongs to Islam and any kind of Jewish rule cannot be tolerated has anything to do with the violence?

Of course, as noted above.

That's why the UNSC is required to grow a set....and implement the damn plan.

Do you realise how idiotic you sound?

What land was confiscated?

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Reply #41 - May 14^th, 2024 at 2:27pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

So the cause of the violence is the plan to partition Palestine into two states,

yes - because it involved confiscation of land against the will of those already living there.

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and the solution is to create two states, which is completely different?

Yes - given the first error is now entrenched; the only solution to stop the violence is to fulfil the plan as envisioned, NOW, given RW Jews are demanding all of Palestine for themselves.

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Do you think the Islamic belief that the land belongs to Islam and any kind of Jewish rule cannot be tolerated has anything to do with the violence?

Of course, as noted above.

That's why the UNSC is required to grow a set....and implement the damn plan.

Do you realise how idiotic you sound?

No, can you explain it to me?

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Reply #43 - May 14^th, 2024 at 2:32pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

What land was confiscated?

Half of the Palestine Mandate land.

It was not confiscated.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

So the cause of the violence is the plan to partition Palestine into two states,

yes - because it involved confiscation of land against the will of those already living there.

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and the solution is to create two states, which is completely different?

Yes - given the first error is now entrenched; the only solution to stop the violence is to fulfil the plan as envisioned, NOW, given RW Jews are demanding all of Palestine for themselves.

Quote:

Do you think the Islamic belief that the land belongs to Islam and any kind of Jewish rule cannot be tolerated has anything to do with the violence?

Of course, as noted above.

That's why the UNSC is required to grow a set....and implement the damn plan.

Do you realise how idiotic you sound?

No, can you explain it to me?

I do not think that is possible. I describe your position in the most idiotic terms possible, and you simply agree with me like there is nothing wrong with it.

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Reply #44 - May 14^th, 2024 at 3:23pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

What land was confiscated?

Half of the Palestine Mandate land.

It was not confiscated.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:27pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

So the cause of the violence is the plan to partition Palestine into two states,

yes - because it involved confiscation of land against the will of those already living there.

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and the solution is to create two states, which is completely different?

Yes - given the first error is now entrenched; the only solution to stop the violence is to fulfil the plan as envisioned, NOW, given RW Jews are demanding all of Palestine for themselves.

Quote:

Do you think the Islamic belief that the land belongs to Islam and any kind of Jewish rule cannot be tolerated has anything to do with the violence?

Of course, as noted above.

That's why the UNSC is required to grow a set....and implement the damn plan.

Do you realise how idiotic you sound?

No, can you explain it to me?

I do not think that is possible. I describe your position in the most idiotic terms possible, and you simply agree with me like there is nothing wrong with it.

Er....the half of the Palestine Mandate Land which was confiscated to create Israel.

What part of that don't you understand?

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