UnSubRocky wrote on May 21^st, 2024 at 3:28pm:


Bullshyte ..... what immense advancements did they make in that time?

Any climate change had SFA to do with cultural advancement.

You're just making an assumption.

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 11:20am:


Are you phucking serious??? Our very way of life today is the result of Europeans having been raised over tens of thousands of years in a cold climate. They had to plan when to grow crops and how to store food and all manner of technological advancements that related to the way the weather changed from warm summers to bitterly cold winters.

I could imagine that the indigenous Australians living in southern parts of Australia had to adapt to survive cold winters. I had just spent some time writing about how they would have had to move around based on the seasonal changes to gather food to survive. I bet that would have been a vast difference altering their culture compared to their Papuan ancestors. If you have been to Papua New Guinea, is there much of a change in weather patterns there?

UnSubRocky wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:45pm:


Agriculture developed in Mesopotamia, not Europe.

Women used to do the hunting and were very successful: they talked their prey to death. When the megafauna of Eurasia went extinct, the women spent what used to be hunting time at home. The men, to escape, went out and invented agriculture.

Aboriginal men responded differently. They just beat the women into silence.
"I was seized with a strong propensity to learn whether the attractions of Gooreedeeana were sufficiently powerful to secure her from the brutal violence with which the women are treated,and as I found my question either ill understood or reluctantly answered, I proceeded to examine her head, the part on which the husband's vengeance generally alights. With grief I found it covered by contusions and mangled by scars. The poor creature, grown by this time more confident from perceiving that I pitied her, pointed out a wound just above her left knee which she told me was received from a spear, thrown at her by a man who had lately dragged her by force from her home to gratify his lust. I afterwards observed that this wound had caused a slight lameness and that she limped in walking."

... affirmative action winners ....

Brian Ross wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 9:19pm:


Whilst I believe that changing climactic conditions could have been the main factor in the extinction of megafauna, 40,000 years ago, I think the indigenous people would have had enough skill and weaponry to hunt the megafauna first, before they went after other wildlife.

And simply because you don't see bones in midden heaps, that does not mean that the indigenous did not hunt them for food. Bones do eventually break done. People never saw dinosaur bones out in the open as evidence of them being in existence. People had discovered them during digs. I dare say that 40,000 years of physical weathering would have meant that those bones would have broken down. The discovery of the megafauna bones might have been preserved underground.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 22^nd, 2024 at 12:54pm:


I posted a link from from scientific research that refutes that claim.

You obviously didn't read it or the quote I made from it?

Stick to being a restaurant waiter ... and fetch my dinner. 

Gnads wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 5:24am:


In other words, you would claim to know just as much as I, in your own estimation. But, you are too stupid to realise your mistake. Advantage USR.

Let's be honest here. 1788-era indigenous people were probably Upper Paleolithic people that had not advanced much from the stone age. I would probably consider the Papuans even less advanced than 1788-era indigenous Australians. But, the indigenous people roaming the continent would have had to alter the way they dealt with the land as they explored further inland.

You might have heard of retired Major Les Hiddins aka "The Bush Tucker Man". He worked with indigenous people in helping establish which species of fruit and nut were edible. And the cataloguing and research on the nutritional value of the flora has been well known.

I would guess that there would have been a bit of trial and error in establishing which  foods were edible and which were not, during the last 40,000 years in Australia. Is that not enough that there would have been education as to which foods were to be collected/hunted and eaten, as part of indigenous Australian culture?

10,000 years ago, you could say that Europeans were on the verge of agricultural revolution. The Romans establishing places in Briton saw the native Britons as basically savages still living a Stone Ages lifestyle, not that dissimilar from indigenous Australians of 1788.

And yet, 234 years later, indigenous people are availing themselves to all manner of Australian life, in work, sport and entertainment. Yet, when a few indigenous people join a lifesaving/iron man competition, you need to call them "almost all white people" or whatever it was that you said a few pages back, just to downplay some position role models being establish among a certain demographic.

Please, keep telling people you know nothing and that everyone is as stupid as you 4 times over. Maybe you will have an aneurysm sufficient to the point that the blood flow to the rest of your brain cells will trigger a sense of shame in yourself.

Gnads wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 5:28am:


Would you like extra mop with that?

I don't really care how most of the megafauna died out. I just believe that indigenous people hunting them would have led to insufficient numbers being able to breed back into survival.