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Quality of Chinese construction
May 14^th, 2024 at 3:02pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:

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Many of China’s Belt and Road infrastructure projects are plagued with construction flaws, including a giant hydropower plant in Ecuador, adding more costs to a program criticized for leading countries deeper into debt

Selective reporting: overpriced residential towers in Sydney are riffled with construction faults, ruining the financial wellbeing of the unfortunate purchasers.

Are you suggesting that construction quality is better in China than Australia?

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Reply #1 - May 14^th, 2024 at 4:09pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:

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Many of China’s Belt and Road infrastructure projects are plagued with construction flaws, including a giant hydropower plant in Ecuador, adding more costs to a program criticized for leading countries deeper into debt

Selective reporting: overpriced residential towers in Sydney are riffled with construction faults, ruining the financial wellbeing of the unfortunate purchasers.

That's Lebbo and Islander craftsmanship for ya.

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Reply #2 - May 14^th, 2024 at 5:20pm

Having worked in Construction all around Sydney, Great Divide.
I can certainly tell you the quality of building has lessened a lot, especially on commercial jobs. All those High Rises go up real quick and the companies don't give a hoot about the fines they have to pay to get them up quick.
I can also say, that a good number of all those working Construction in Sydney are... 'Chinese'.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1068 Gender:	Re: Quality of Chinese construction Reply #3 - May 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm Building a home in Australia has never cost more and the quality of the build has never been so poor. How did it end like this?
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Reply #4 - May 14^th, 2024 at 5:42pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

Building a home in Australia has never cost more and the quality of the build has never been so poor.

How did it end like this?

Employment agencies that get to rush through apprenticeships, or not put them through the tiertiary part altogether, is a great place to start. These guys end up with 10 years 'experience' and still they haven't a clue what they are doing or why.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46568 Gender:	Re: Quality of Chinese construction Reply #5 - May 14^th, 2024 at 5:43pm Daves2017 wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm: Building a home in Australia has never cost more and the quality of the build has never been so poor. How did it end like this? Lebbo, Islander, Chinese builders: diversity is our strength.
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Reply #6 - May 14^th, 2024 at 5:45pm

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

Building a home in Australia has never cost more and the quality of the build has never been so poor.

How did it end like this?

Lebbo, Islander, Chinese builders: diversity is our strength.

It's not the nationality dumbarse, it's the lowering of standards to get the qualifications. Thanks mostly to the retarded right and their donors.

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Reply #7 - May 14^th, 2024 at 5:56pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 3:02pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:

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Many of China’s Belt and Road infrastructure projects are plagued with construction flaws, including a giant hydropower plant in Ecuador, adding more costs to a program criticized for leading countries deeper into debt

Selective reporting: overpriced residential towers in Sydney are riffled with construction faults, ruining the financial wellbeing of the unfortunate purchasers.

Are you suggesting that construction quality is better in China than Australia?

No, you are suggesting Oz is better than China.

I'm loving the advance in Chinese technology eg EVs the rest of the world want to purchase, and hs rail technology other nations are purchasing - the latest being Indonesia.
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" On September 7 (2023), the Jakarta-Bandung High Speed Railway (Jakarta-Bandung HSR), jointly built by China and Indonesia, opened, cutting the travel time between the two Indonesian cities from 3.5 hours to 40 minutes.9 Nov 2023"

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Reply #8 - May 14^th, 2024 at 6:07pm

It is due to nationalities.
The Italians and Moslems always fight.
The Indians and Chinese also. Some sites have separate Lunch areas due to these four, but also because Chinese and Indians cook food that just plain stinks.
While Moslems are used to not washing (not much water in the deserts I guess) and stink themselves.
Working with Italians in Construction is like working with the Mafia.
The Polynesians are good workers, but tend to throw their weight around too much.
Melanesians are also good workers but like the Abos - just wanna pick fights with anyone.

Overall - the 'shemozzle' of so many different nationalities not really working together shows in the work being done or should I say, not being done. 25% of the work done is each one trying to sabotage the other.

From Painters, to Plasterers, to Cementies to Chippies - its all been 'fast and nasty' cheap as possible work in Sydney. Wether the Italians started it or not - most business is done that it is deemed 'professional' for one to try as much as possible to rip the other off, no different to Scamming. It seems the 'accepted' thing.
All of this just compromises the quality of work done, in favour of just getting quantity pushed through as much as possible. Even the more stricter (everything in triplicate) Government jobs have dumbed down a lot.

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Reply #9 - May 14^th, 2024 at 8:30pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 3:02pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:

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Many of China’s Belt and Road infrastructure projects are plagued with construction flaws, including a giant hydropower plant in Ecuador, adding more costs to a program criticized for leading countries deeper into debt

Selective reporting: overpriced residential towers in Sydney are riffled with construction faults, ruining the financial wellbeing of the unfortunate purchasers.

Are you suggesting that construction quality is better in China than Australia?

No, you are suggesting Oz is better than China.

Yes.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12583 Gender:	Re: Quality of Chinese construction Reply #10 - May 15^th, 2024 at 7:00am Cha bu duo is a fundamental flaw in the Chinese character - if it looks good, it is good. Or, if it looks like what it should look like, then it is what it looks like - hence so many 'tofu' buildings - they look like functioning apartment blocks, so they are functioning apartment blocks... until it rains.
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Reply #12 - May 15^th, 2024 at 8:49am

Wow. It even has it's own wikipedia page. Note that tofu actually holds up OK when wet. The term is 'tofu dreg'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu-dreg_project

Interestingly, the term was coined by the former premier.

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The state-controlled media has largely ignored the tofu-dregs schoolhouses, under directives from the propaganda bureau's instructions.

Once more, the CCP is putting propaganda before lives, sacrificing Chinese children to save face.

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Reply #13 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:01pm

John Smith wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:45pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

Building a home in Australia has never cost more and the quality of the build has never been so poor.

How did it end like this?

Lebbo, Islander, Chinese builders: diversity is our strength.

It's not the nationality dumbarse, it's the lowering of standards to get the qualifications. Thanks mostly to the retarded right and their donors.

On the run for months, builder of collapsed home convicted of fraud

George Khouzame, from South Hurstville, pleaded guilty to nine offences relating to using an unlicensed contractor and the fraudulent lodging of insurance applications on three different worksites, but Building Commission NSW and the state's police failed to secure any prosecutions relating to the Condell Park home collapse.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/on-the-run-for-months-builder-of-collapsed-home-convicted-for-fraud-20240523-p5jfyb.html

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Reply #14 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:13pm

Frank wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:01pm:

John Smith wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:45pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

Daves2017 wrote on May 14^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

Building a home in Australia has never cost more and the quality of the build has never been so poor.

How did it end like this?

Lebbo, Islander, Chinese builders: diversity is our strength.

It's not the nationality dumbarse, it's the lowering of standards to get the qualifications. Thanks mostly to the retarded right and their donors.

On the run for months, builder of collapsed home convicted of fraud

George Khouzame, from South Hurstville, pleaded guilty to nine offences relating to using an unlicensed contractor and the fraudulent lodging of insurance applications on three different worksites, but Building Commission NSW and the state's police failed to secure any prosecutions relating to the Condell Park home collapse.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/on-the-run-for-months-builder-of-collapsed-home-convicted-for-fraud-20240523-p5jfyb.html

Your point? You're not seriously arguing that there were no unlicensed builders in the past. You couldn't be that stupid.

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