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Reply #15 - May 18th, 2024 at 11:33pm
 

@ Reply #14,


Karnal,

Are you worried that Donald J Trump may not be redeemed by God.....come the judgement ?

It seems like you may be a little worried for him ?



Honestly Karnal, you needn't be worried for Donald.

Romans 9:17
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.


Numbers 16:4
And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:
5  And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying, Even to morrow the LORD will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him: even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him.


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Hey Karnal,

Did you know, that according to the Koran, Allah claimed that he, is the best deceiver.

And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.
Koran 3.54




In contrast, in the Bible scripture, the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
is attributed thus;

Job 12:16
With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.



So K,

The God of creation has everything well in hand.

He knows 'what is what',         ...in the hearts of men.


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Re: CCN posits dismissing NYC prosecution against Trum
Reply #16 - May 19th, 2024 at 2:22am
 
Yadda wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 11:33pm:

@ Reply #14,


Karnal,

Are you worried that Donald J Trump may not be redeemed by God.....come the judgement ?

It seems like you may be a little worried for him ?



Honestly Karnal, you needn't be worried for Donald.

Romans 9:17
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.


Numbers 16:4
And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:
5  And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying, Even to morrow the LORD will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him: even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him.


.


Hey Karnal,

Did you know, that according to the Koran, Allah claimed that he, is the best deceiver.

And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.
Koran 3.54




In contrast, in the Bible scripture, the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
is attributed thus;

Job 12:16
With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.



So K,

The God of creation has everything well in hand.

He knows 'what is what',         ...in the hearts of men.




No, #15, I'm not sure why you'd think I'm worried for the fate of the big fella's soul, I asked you how his actions align with all the sermons you've been giving us for the past 20 years.

If you don't want to answer this question, just say.

As a heads up, we may have supplementaries.

Cheers.
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Re: CCN posits dismissing NYC prosecution against Trum
Reply #17 - May 19th, 2024 at 10:13am
 
Karnal wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 2:22am:

.......I asked you how his actions align with all the sermons you've been giving us for the past 20 years.




Hey Karnal,

Well you are here, and i am sure that you could judge Donald for us,
so why don't you tell us all.....your opinion.


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FOR ME......
I'm just like Donald.

And Donald and myself, have made our own choices, and many mistakes in life.

I am a sinner, a wrongdoer, and a hypocrite.

And for all of those poor choices, i am condemned....before my God and creator.



Bad choices, can get any of us into serious trouble.

Isn't that right Karnal ?

Perhaps Donald and myself, are beyond redemption by God ?

Is that your opinion Karnal ???


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Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3  He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.


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Reply #18 - May 19th, 2024 at 10:22am
 


Karnal,


QUESTION;
Why is it that the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party,
are afraid to the let the people of America JUDGE Donald Trump ?

And they seem, so, so determined,
to stop the people of America from   >> JUDGING <<   Donald Trump ?


Why is that Karnal ?




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Reply #19 - May 19th, 2024 at 10:50am
 
Yadda wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 10:13am:
And for all of those poor choices, i am condemned....before my God and creator.

Donald too has condemned himself in speeches asking that no American votes for him, a sinner, fraud and loser. He has asked for 115 years no parole.
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Reply #20 - May 19th, 2024 at 11:09am
 
Yadda wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 10:22am:


QUESTION;
Why is it that the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party,
are afraid to the let the people of America JUDGE Donald Trump ?

And they seem, so, so determined,
to stop the people of America from   >> JUDGING <<   Donald Trump ?


Why is that Karnal ?





One of those supplementaries for you Karnal.


Hey Karnal,

QUESTION;
If the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party**,
are   really,   really,   really determined,
to stop   the people of America   from   >> JUDGING <<   Donald Trump,
do you think that they** could   even   try to assassinate Donald before November 5th, this year ?

And if the attempt were successful,
would the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party consider that,
to be a fitting 'judgement day',
....FOR DONALD TRUMP ???




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Reply #21 - May 19th, 2024 at 11:16am
 
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Reply #22 - May 19th, 2024 at 6:15pm
 
Yadda wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 10:13am:
Karnal wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 2:22am:

.......I asked you how his actions align with all the sermons you've been giving us for the past 20 years.




Hey Karnal,

Well you are here, and i am sure that you could judge Donald for us,
so why don't you tell us all.....your opinion.


.


FOR ME......
I'm just like Donald.

And Donald and myself, have made our own choices, and many mistakes in life.

I am a sinner, a wrongdoer, and a hypocrite.

And for all of those poor choices, i am condemned....before my God and creator.



Bad choices, can get any of us into serious trouble.

Isn't that right Karnal ?

Perhaps Donald and myself, are beyond redemption by God ?

Is that your opinion Karnal ???


.


Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3  He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.




We're not here to judge Donald here, Y. That's the job of the jury. We're asking you how his words and deeds align with your sermons from the Bible. You've referenced a number of passages in this thread.

Hypocrites, liars adulterers; rich and vain men finding it harder to get into heaven than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, etc.

You're nothing like Donald. You just confessed to being a sinner. He says he's got no sin to seek forgiveness for.

So again, I'm curious. How do your DL's words and deeds align with your sermons from the Bible?

If you don't want to answer, just say.
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Reply #23 - May 19th, 2024 at 9:25pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 6:15pm:

......I'm curious.

How do your DL's words and deeds align with your sermons from the Bible?

If you don't want to answer, just say.



Dear curious Karnal,

You yourself, seem to have identified   that   particular theoretical DEI connection/entanglement, between Donalds worldview and my own.

So i would invite you, Karnal, to 'develop' and to write that critique, yourself.

And you could post your exploration, in a thread, here on OzPol.

Explaining to us all, as you see it, the complexity of the encompassing ideals, of the 'converging' and 'diverging' positions, which both myself and Donald seem to embrace.


.


To me, this seems a reasonable request to make of you,
as it is you yourself, who seems to be so, so fascinated
with how 'converging' and 'diverging' thoughts can inhabit the mindscape of two different individuals, living on the opposite side of a small planet.

individual = = a single human being, as distinct from a group or the member of a HIVE mind.


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Psalms 2:1
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5  Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8  Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9  Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10  Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11  Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12  Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.


John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.




p.s.
Why do you keep referring to Donald Trump as my/our DL ?

I didn't realise that you embrace so much respect for Donald Trump.


Myself, i simply refer to Donald Trump, as Donald Trump.
......or, Mr President.



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Reply #24 - May 20th, 2024 at 2:34am
 
Yadda wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
Explaining to us all, as you see it, the complexity of the encompassing ideals, of the 'converging' and 'diverging' positions, which both myself and Donald seem to embrace.

Ecclesiastes 7.29
'This is all that I have learnt: God made us plain and simple, but we have made ourselves very complicated'.

Judge Juan Merchan has found former President Donald Trump in contempt for violating the gag order in his hush money trial for the 10th time and said he’ll consider jail time going forward.  Trump then asked $60 for a MAGA Bible, signed by Yadda, with all proceeds to the porn industry and insurrection.
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Reply #25 - May 20th, 2024 at 3:12am
 
Yadda wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
Karnal wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 6:15pm:

......I'm curious.

How do your DL's words and deeds align with your sermons from the Bible?

If you don't want to answer, just say.



Dear curious Karnal,

You yourself, seem to have identified   that   particular theoretical DEI connection/entanglement, between Donalds worldview and my own.

So i would invite you, Karnal, to 'develop' and to write that critique, yourself.

And you could post your exploration, in a thread, here on OzPol.

Explaining to us all, as you see it, the complexity of the encompassing ideals, of the 'converging' and 'diverging' positions, which both myself and Donald seem to embrace.


.


To me, this seems a reasonable request to make of you,
as it is you yourself, who seems to be so, so fascinated
with how 'converging' and 'diverging' thoughts can inhabit the mindscape of two different individuals, living on the opposite side of a small planet.

individual = = a single human being, as distinct from a group or the member of a HIVE mind.


.


Psalms 2:1
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5  Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8  Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9  Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10  Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11  Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12  Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.


John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.




p.s.
Why do you keep referring to Donald Trump as my/our DL ?

I didn't realise that you embrace so much respect for Donald Trump.


Myself, i simply refer to Donald Trump, as Donald Trump.
......or, Mr President.





I see. So you don't want to say.

Thanks, Y. Now you've acknowledged that, I have a supplementary: why?

Why do you refuse to say that Donald's words and deeds are the complete antithesis to every Bible quote you've ever posted?

What are you trying to hide?

Cheers.
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Reply #26 - May 20th, 2024 at 3:24am
 
chimera wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 2:34am:
Yadda wrote on May 19th, 2024 at 9:25pm:
Explaining to us all, as you see it, the complexity of the encompassing ideals, of the 'converging' and 'diverging' positions, which both myself and Donald seem to embrace.

Ecclesiastes 7.29
'This is all that I have learnt: God made us plain and simple, but we have made ourselves very complicated'.

Judge Juan Merchan has found former President Donald Trump in contempt for violating the gag order in his hush money trial for the 10th time and said he’ll consider jail time going forward.  Trump then asked $60 for a MAGA Bible, signed by Yadda, with all proceeds to the porn industry and insurrection.


I know, but Y's already covered that by saying it's fine to be a sinner, hawk fake Bibles and porn porn stars.

I mean, everybody's doing it. The only question left for Y is how this trucks with his favourite book.

You know, the one with the US Constitution, the lyrics to God Bless the USA and all that other stuff nobody reads.


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Reply #27 - May 20th, 2024 at 6:46am
 


Karnal,

It is sad that you cannot take to your heart,  ....what is written.


The admonition to all men;

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14  For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.



The warnings to us;

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.


1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
9  Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.


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Hey Karnal........

Quote:

QUESTION;
Why is it that the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party,
are afraid to let the people of America JUDGE Donald Trump ?

And they seem, so, so determined,
to stop the people of America from   >> JUDGING <<   Donald Trump ?


Why is that Karnal ?





Why do you believe that could be Karnal ???

Why, are    the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party,
so, so afraid to let the people of America JUDGE Donald Trump ?


Karnal,

Is it because the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party,
are really, would be usurpers,
and do not actually support 'popular rule' ?

Is it, being demonstrated to all of us,
that the LEFTISTS and neo-Marxists in the U.S. Democrat Party,
only believe in   the sanctity   of the will of 'the masses',
when they are certain,
that the masses are under the sway of THEIR own, direct influence ?

They are hypocrites and cheats, aren't they Karnal ?



usurp = = take (a position of power) illegally or by force.    supplant.

supplant = = replace.

sanctity = = holiness; saintliness.


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Reply #28 - May 20th, 2024 at 7:40am
 
Romans 13. 3
'For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.'

And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said,
"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."
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Reply #29 - May 20th, 2024 at 2:34pm
 
I think you should be honest, Y. Just admit you refuse to answer. So again, I ask why.

The leftists, Democrats and neo-Marxists haven't stopped your DL from running. Many in his own party tried doing that in the primaries. It didn't go too well, so there he is, running.

So I'll ask you this: why do you refuse to state the bleeding obvious and acknowledge that your DL is the very antithesis of what you preach?

What have you got to lose by admitting this?

Cheers.
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