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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11684 Armidale Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1065 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 12:17pm Probably no missiles hit Kursk. Putin says it's not permitted.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1066 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 12:56pm Roshel Senator - 2024-11-18 - Glushkovsky district, Kursk region. Fields and forest ranges are literally strewn with corpses and burnt equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Looks like a good crater was formed by the FAB's arrival, suitable for AFU corpses
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11684 Armidale Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1067 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 1:07pm It's a civil war. Poland is West Slavic, part of Putin estate. Nukes make it one country.
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Reply #1068 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 1:14pm

Results for November 19, 2024:

· The Ukrainian Armed Forces launched an ATACMS missile strike on the Bryansk region. 5 out of 6 missiles were shot down. The last one caused minor damage to the arsenal in Krachayevo.
· In the Kharkov region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are conducting counterattacks in the Liptsy area.
· In the Kupyansk direction, the Russian Armed Forces are advancing towards the city from the south.
· Heavy counter-battles continue to the west of Selidovo and south of Kurakhovo
· The 114th Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces planted a flag over the liberated Novaya Ilyinka microdistrict in the city of Kurakhovo - an isolated microdistrict north of the Kurakhovskoye Reservoir.
· The Russian Armed Forces are advancing about 700 meters along the northern shore of the Kurakhovskoye Reservoir, entering the village of Berestki. Servicemen of the Russian Armed Forces are installing the battle flag of their unit in the coastal development of the village of Berestki on the Kurakhovskoye Reservoir.
· In the Krasnoarmeysk direction, units of the Center group of forces, as a result of active offensive actions, liberated the settlement of Novoselidovka in the Donetsk People's Republic.

AFU losses:

Personnel – 1710
Armored vehicles – 17, including:
Tank – 3 (including 1 Leopard)
BBM – 9
BMP – 2
APC – 3 M113
Auto – 33
Art – 17, including:
SPG Gvozdika – 2
SPG Krab – 1
D-20 – 2
D-30 – 4
MT-12 Rapira – 1
M101 – 1
M119 – 4
M198 – 2
EW station – 1
EW station Anklav-N – 2
EW station Nota – 1
Damage was inflicted on the infrastructure of military airfields and energy facilities that support the activities of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine
Field ammunition depot – 2
Ballistic missile – 5
«Hammer» (UAB) – 4
HIMARS (RS) – 1
UAV – 85

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Reply #1069 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 2:27pm

https://nypost.com/2024/11/20/us-news/secret-german-docs-reveal-wwiii-plans/

Europe preps for WWIII as secret German docs reveal plans
for 800K troops in case Russia invades NATO

By Caitlin Doornbos
Published Nov. 20, 2024, 6:49 p.m. ET

Soldiers take part in the Lithuanian-German military exercise ‘Grand Quadriga’
at a training range in Pabrade, north of Vilnius, Lithuania on May 6, 2024.

WASHINGTON — This is Doomsday prepping, European style.

Secret documents revealed Wednesday that Berlin has begun making plans for how it could help deploy as many as 800,000 NATO troops — including Americans — into Ukraine as Russia’s nuclear saber-rattling reaches new heights.

“Operation Deutschland” is a 1,000-page plan to prepare Germany for the possibility of a World War III scenario.

The top-secret papers reportedly detail specific buildings and infrastructure to protect so they can be utilized by the military, how businesses and civilians should prepare in case of increased threats, according to the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

They also suggested Berlin was preparing a way to push 200,000 military vehicles across German territory should the alliance be required to join Ukraine’s efforts, though further details were kept classified.

Germany has also advised citizens on ways to prepare for the worst by boosting their self-sufficiency through mechanisms including installing diesel generators or even wind turbines, according to the report.

Putin ‘playing with our fear’
The alarm is not contained to Germany. Sweden and Norway have also recently issued pamphlets and literature instructing citizens of how to prepare should the Ukraine War conflict boil over into their countries.

The rising concern comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin formally changed the Kremlin’s nuclear strike policy on Tuesday, announcing that Moscow may now use nuclear weapons to respond to non-nuclear, “conventional weapons” strikes.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1070 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 3:12pm In the area of Velikaya Novosyolka. Russian Armed Forces servicemen plant the Russian Federation flag in the village of Rivnepol, confirming the confident control of the settlement by the Russian Armed Forces. The Russian Armed Forces advance northward up to 4 km.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105661 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1071 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 4:26pm Putin will retaliate against Storm Shadow missiles with ‘grey zone’ warfare 10 hours ago Trump will arm Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles if Putin doesn’t ‘play nice’
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Reply #1072 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 4:33pm

Russian troops entered the center of Chasov Yar — German analyst Julian Röpke.

The battle for this town west of Bakhmut has been going on for more than six months. Chasov Yar is located on a hill and is protected from the east by the Seversky Donets-Donbass waterway. Russian troops could not cross it for a long time. Now they have succeeded. Judging by the footage of street fighting, the Russian Armed Forces have almost reached the Avangard stadium in the city center.

“Russian troops have been spotted in the center of Chasov Yar for the first time. And if we look at the area around, it does not look like there are Ukrainian soldiers ready for battle everywhere. We see solid ruins and the use of drones by the Ukrainians to attack the Russians. This always indicates that the Russians already control this territory, and the Ukrainians are attacking them with drones from about 100 meters to the west,” said open data analysis expert Julian Röpke.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105661 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1073 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 4:45pm Trump must bring ‘proper US muscle’ to force Putin into compromise 8 hours ago
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1074 - Nov 21^st, 2024 at 4:57pm In the Kurakhovo area. Russian Armed Forces servicemen install the battle flag of their unit in the coastal development of the Berestki settlement on the Kurakhovo Reservoir.
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Reply #1075 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 9:28am

Former Prosecutor General of Ukraine Vitaliy Lutsenko has effectively admitted the fact that the West violated the Missile Technology Control Regime by supplying Ukraine with components for missiles with a range of over 300 km: "Engineers from missile design bureaus have been mobilised to infantry. And now there is no one to create the missiles promised by Zelensky. We have several hundred engines and guidance systems made abroad, but we have not been able to make bodies for them."

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Reply #1076 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 11:23am

Ukrainian authorities have urged their Western allies not to stoke tensions at home after a number of embassies in Kyiv announced they were closing, citing the threat of a “massive air attack” on the capital.

The United States led the wave of embassy closures, saying it was closing its Kiev office to the public after receiving “specific information about a potential significant air attack” on Wednesday.
It provided no further details.
Greece, Hungary, Italy and Spain — all NATO members — followed suit, announcing the closure of their diplomatic premises in the capital.

Ukrainian officials criticized the move and urged their allies not to sow further fear in Ukrainian society. Kyiv said the “information” cited by the US appeared to be a “psychological operation” launched by Moscow in an attempt to destabilize the country.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1780170-20241121.htm?spTabChangeable=0

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1077 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 3:40pm A serviceman of the Russian Armed Forces demonstrates the flag of the Russian Federation in agricultural buildings in the west of the village of Dalneye, confirming the confident control of the settlement by the Russian Armed Forces.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Online Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13013 Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #1078 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 4:07pm ...the war is heating up, given tha absence of effective international law. Neither Zelensky or Putin (or Biden and like-minded NATO f**kwits) gives a stuff about the many thousands of (mostly young) soldiers lives lost, let alone civilians. Even in the age of MAD.... MAD!
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Reply #1079 - Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 4:17pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2024 at 4:07pm:

...the war is heating up, given tha absence of effective international law.
Neither Zelensky or Putin (or Biden and like-minded NATO f**kwits) gives a stuff about the many thousands of (mostly young) soldiers lives lost, let alone civilians.
Even in the age of MAD....
MAD!

Two generations past ww2 and people forgot fear of modern warfare.

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