chimera wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:


Accusation of "word salad "....beats actually  debating the points made; typical of conservative pygmy brains.

So today the Oz government is facing veteran suicides; turns out war is brutal and dehumanizing; and unless the entire population is totally onboard with the war, returned veterans commit suicide at three times the rate of the general population when they see their mates called "war criminals" - which some are, as they give reign to their murderous instincts while engaging in the hideous "freedom or death" ideology  enabling "legal" murder.

You "freedom or death" pygmy brain --- a word salad indeed.



 

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Daves2017 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:


There is nothing amazing about the Ukrainian defense, they have 1.8:1 superiority in numbers in the conflict zone and NATO material backup. However Russians have advantage in air-power and armour and more importantly moral superiority after Zelensky mobilization law forcing unwilling and often medically unfit people in to AFU.

chimera wrote on Sep 10^th, 2024 at 6:19pm:


Ukraine conquered Chimera without firing a shot.

AFU losses 9/09/24

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Having had to do some 'work' in Ukraine early this year.
I can assure you that the Ukrainians are very much the same ex-Soviet savages as the Russians are. It's very much two ex-Soviet peoples (because they really haven't had a few generations to cleanse themselves of that past) - culling their own populations in the usual Soviet 'mass-fodder' style of warfare. Ukraine, the slightly less so - due to having to follow a more NATO-USA style if they want to keep getting more Ammunition/Weapons/War Machines, etc... at a less than reasonable 'interest' on it all.

Two birds, one stone: Russia suffering more losses per ratio, but Ukraine will come out economically far worse from all their 'borrowing'  and 'contracts' to NATO/USA.
In a way, Ukraine would have faired better if Russia did annex it. Because Russia would have been forced to pay for the massive 'rebuild' of Ukraine.
Do you think NATO/USA are going to rebuild Ukraine?
Especially when Ukraine's future will be heavily weighed down by the massive debts for all this 'help' they've been getting.
I can tell you - just for Media/Propaganda reasons, only 25% of everything given to them from other nations has in fact been honestly 'For Free' (Donation). Under the table though, its costing Ukraine a fortune in future paybacks.

Ukraine's only hope is that China invades Russia (for resource rich Siberia and a return to the far north of the Yellow Man). Forcing Russia to capitulate for peace while having to suddenly send ALL OF ITS FORCES east against China... who has already 'taken' land from Russia this year and over 600,000 Chinese (uniformed too) now occupy Russian lands. Lands where Putin can't even offer his 'whitey' Russians 'free land', buildings, houses in those Chinese inhabited 'Russian' lands because they refuse to live there, many having been 'forced out' already by the influx of Chinese.

Russia is between a rock (Ukraine/NATO) and a hard place (China/Mongolia).
Russia's only ally in this situation is India, who is also having to deal with influxes of 'Chinese civilians' into disputed territories. Of course, these civilians are not really civilians. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 4:56pm:

Repetition of 'freedom or death' of the pygmies is part of your illogic, which is the point I'm debating. I never mentioned 'freedom' and veto at least keeps the UN alive.
I noted the lack of veto on Korea 1950, which you didn't respond to. So Ukraine war stops when Trump speaks? Does Putin obey Cicero?
N Korea was equal to UN armies. Vietnam and Afghans beat US, so how is Pentagon stronger in the field on the Russian border? Trump doesn't like the nukes? And so......?