thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2024 at 11:49am:


So it is Ukraine's fault for not letting Russia dictate their foreign policy to them? Doesn't this just prove the the Ukraine was right to avoid Russia as much as possible?

Are you straddling the fence with your legs in the air on this because you want the CCP to also be able to bully smaller countries on foreign policy matters? And then blame them if the CCP is "forced" to invade because they lose face?

freediver wrote on May 20^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:
 

No, it is Ukraine's - and NATO's - fault for not negotiating re the status of Russian speaking provinces in Ukraine.

Your error: Ukraine's society was deeply divided over pro Western or pro Russian sympathies. 

Negotiation   ....admittedly not understandable by a "freedom or death"/national sovereignty ideologue  like both you... and Putin, for that matter.  Off to war you go.

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I love these endless questions coming from the ideologically  crippled "freedom or death"  brain; it's fun to dispose of them.

Answer: no, it proves Zelensky should have negotiated with Putin instead of being led up the garden path by the Pentagon which loves a proxy war with Russia (avoiding any damage to the US). 

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No. The CCP wants to avoid war, and engage in negotiation,  since war is the ultimate insanity for the combatants on either side - witness the destruction of life and property in Ukraine, and Russian losses in treasure and life.

The US of course is busy arming some of China's near neighbours, because they like you are "freedom or death' delusional ideologues, and take every opportunity to create chaos and war in the SCS,  but we'll see if the CCP can draw on ancient Chinese wisdom re war (ie, winning a war without firing a shot).   

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

No the wisdom is not winning but negotiating with the invader. Putin and Xi both want defeat, now and unloading all that acreage of land.  Finland may want some.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19^th, 2024 at 6:38pm:

The invisible US took Russians of Ukraine away from Russia. Putin will negotiate for all Russia to become Ukrainian without firing a shot.

Stalin had surrender papers ready on his train from Moscow but Churchill sent in the British bulldogs. The US was hopeless.

Belarus has major problems and Sweden agrees to take it over. Putin throws in the Urals as well to clinch the deal.

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It's called BS propaganda.

How much of Ukraine's territory do you think the Russians would have accepted in exchange for not invading?

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Are you saying they actually won't invade, or they will try to make everyone use a different word for it?

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