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Reply #795 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 10:19am:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/switzerland-abandons-neutrality/ar-AA...

"Switzerland abandons neutrality

Switzerland is set to join the European Sky Shield Initiative, a project aimed at creating a shared missile defense system for Europe, as announced by the Swiss government on Friday.

This initiative began after Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, with Germany proposing the joint defense project.

Urs Loher, Switzerland's head of armaments, signed the agreement, making Switzerland the 15th member of the initiative.

"With its participation in the ESSI, Switzerland is increasing international opportunities for cooperation: ESSI enables better coordination of procurement projects, training and logistical aspects in the area of ground-based air defence," the government said in a statement.

The countries involved aim to develop a defense system against medium-range missiles, although other plans are also under consideration, according to the Swiss government.

However, the move has faced criticism, as it marks a departure from Switzerland's long-standing tradition of neutrality. The government has argued that the initiative is still compatible with its neutral stance because it doesn't impose any obligations, allowing Switzerland to choose its level of involvement in the joint military project.

Additionally, Switzerland reserves the right to withdraw if any member becomes involved in a conflict."

Swiss lost neutrality when join the sanctions.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #796 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding
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Reply #797 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 12:05pm

Results for October 19, 2024:
• In the Kupyansk direction, the Russian Armed Forces reached the Senkovo station in Kruglyakovka
• In the suburbs of Dzerzhinsk/Toretsk, the Russian Armed Forces are advancing towards the urban settlement of Shcherbinovka
• The Russian flag was raised over the southern part of Vozdvizhenka
• According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the village of Zoryanoye
• New advance of the Russian Armed Forces is recorded to the south of Maksimilyanovka

AFU losses:

Personnel – 1860
Auto – 15
Art – 10, including:
SPG "Bogdana" – 1
SPG "CAESAR" – 1
SPG M109 "Paladin" – 1
D-30 – 2
MT-12 "Rapira" – 1
L119 – 1
M119 – 1
M198 – 1
MLRS BM-21 "Grad" – 1
EW station "Anklav-N" – 3
Fuel and energy infrastructure facilities used in the interests of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as airfields, were damaged
Field ammunition depot – 2
Ammunition depot – 1
HIMARS (RS) – 3
UAVs – 31

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Reply #798 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 4:23pm

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Russia and Ukraine have exchanged the bodies of fallen soldiers. The Ukrainian Coordination Headquarters reported that 501 bodies were handed over to them, Suspilne reports.

Russia and Ukraine have repeatedly exchanged the bodies of fallen soldiers. One of the most recent exchanges took place in early August: then the Ukrainian side received 250 bodies of soldiers. Russia received 38 bodies.

Before that, at the end of May, Moscow returned 45 bodies of Russian soldiers as part of the exchange, and Kyiv received 212 bodies in return.

These exchanges give you an idea about casualties ratio.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #799 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 4:47pm Breakfast time.
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Reply #800 - Oct 22^nd, 2024 at 4:21am

I would live almost as rough like that, out in Emerald. Pop built his own home, with the help of community members. Then he backed his 1940s era truck into the side wall.

My uncle had to use mosquito nets during summer nights. But heavy blankets during winter nights, to be able to sleep. As a 5 y.o., I got to see photos of the house before the refurbishment. Glad that I did not have to live like that until adulthood.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #801 - Oct 22^nd, 2024 at 11:47am I drove few times through Emerald on the way from Pentland and back, one time even stay overnight when had to replace radiator in my holden hq. I wanted to do fishing in the lake but never had enough time between mining contracts.
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Reply #802 - Oct 22^nd, 2024 at 12:56pm

Results for October 20, 2024:

· In the Kupyansk direction, the Russian Armed Forces are moving forward in Kruglyakovka
· The assault on Dzerzhinsk/Toretsk continues
· The Russian army has taken up new positions in the Korotchenko mine on the outskirts of Selidovo
· The Russian flag has been installed at the dachas of Kurakhovo
· The Vostok group is advancing towards Bogoyavlenka

AFU losses:

Personnel - 1805
Armored vehicles - 5, including:
BBM - 3 (including 2 "Kozak")
APC - 2 (including 1 "M1117"* and 1 "M113")
Auto - 18
Art - 8, including:
SPG "Krab" - 2
D-30 - 2
"Pion" - 1
L119 - 1
M119 - 1
BM-21 Grad MLRS – 1
AN/TPQ-50 KBB radar – 1
Anklav-N electronic warfare station – 1
Plastun electronic warfare station – 1
Temporary deployment points of foreign mercenaries, unmanned aerial vehicle production workshops, as well as their preparation and launch sites in Sumy and Kharkiv regions were hit
Ammunition depot – 1
Military technical equipment depot – 1
HIMARS (RS) – 5
UAVs – 142

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Reply #803 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 10:35am

tallowood wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

On October 22, Zelensky held a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of the former Ukrainian SSR (NSDC), where he condemned "situations with fake disabilities of government officials." After that, the Prosecutor General of the former Ukrainian SSR Andriy Kostin resigned. In his statement, published on the Telegram channel of the Prosecutor General's Office, he confirmed that "many shameful facts of abuse have been established in the system of prosecutorial bodies of the former Ukrainian SSR." The publication "Strana.ua" writes that the MSEK represented a corrupt vertical for resolving issues of avoiding mobilization. The assigned disability group made it possible to legally evade conscription into the army.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #804 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 11:51am tallowood wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm: Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding Ukraine must have got that bad habit from Australia School teacher William White being dragged away for conscription
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #805 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 12:28pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 11:51am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

Ukraine must have got that bad habit from Australia

School teacher William White being dragged away for conscription

https://commonslibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/William-White-being-arrested-and-d...

That is not the only bad thing that got to Ukraine from Australia.

In 2012, a bitter custody battle and a broken relationship ended in a frightening suburban shooting when two men faced off over the same woman on Brisbane's north side. One of them was Casey John (https://www.instagram.com/caseyjon8689), who attempted to murder another man by shooting the chest and the head. The bullet passed though the head and also missed his opponent’s major organs, but left him with a collapsed lung and fractured ribs.

In 2021, he bashed a male stripper while he was doing body shots at a woman’s 40th birthday party. The victim was serving drinks to other partygoers when Gadaleta arrived at the party, uninvited. The magistrate said that Gadaleta had a history of violence and had previously been convicted of choking, common assault and five previous convictions for assault occasioning bodily harm. He was sentenced to 13 months in prison for this crime.

In June 2024, he was to stand trial for another of the dozens of crimes he had committed throughout his life, but he went to Ukraine in September.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84917 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #806 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 2:59pm South Korea talking about sending help to Ukraine.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #807 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 3:55pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 2:59pm: South Korea talking about sending help to Ukraine. Bloggers have written about that for a week now. They even posted photos of Buryats And many meme
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #808 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 4:24pm

Results for October 21, 2024:

· The Armed Forces of Ukraine sent a brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Abrams tanks to hold the captured territories in the Kursk region
· In the Lima direction, the Russian army advanced east of Terny
· The Russian Armed Forces have consolidated themselves in the eastern part of Selidovo
· In the Kurakhovsky direction, there is progress in Katerinovka and the surrounding area

AFU losses:

Personnel – 1700
Armored vehicles – 3, including:
Infantry fighting vehicles – 2 “Bradley”
APC – 1 “M1117”
Auto – 13
Art – 15, including:
Self-propelled howitzers “Bogdana” – 1
Self-propelled howitzers “Gvozdika” – 1
Self-propelled howitzers “Krab” – 2
D-20 – 2
D-30 – 3
Msta-B – 1
MT-12 “Rapira” – 1
FH-70 – 1
M119 – 2
M777 – 1
Damage was inflicted on Ukrainian energy facilities that supported the actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as the infrastructure of military airfields, production workshops and warehouses for storing attack unmanned aerial vehicles, a temporary deployment point for foreign mercenaries
Field ammunition depot – 4
HIMARS (RS) – 3
UAVs – 52

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105725 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ukraine war update Reply #809 - Oct 23^rd, 2024 at 8:51pm If Russia is allowed to win then what does it say about other territory in Europe or even in the whole world? Does it mean that any country has a right to invade any other country?
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