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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #885 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:50am
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:48am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:44am:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:27am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:15am:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:06am:
It takes two to tango, so let's hope that western elites, not clowns on political show circus, but those who really make decisions won't start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over personal enrichment and total global power.



Putin is the only one who has threatened to use nuclear weapons for the last nearly 3 years.
He does it all the time - on a weekly basis.

NATO use to do computer war games in Europe.
Once one nuke was used it always ended up with the whole lot being used -
within only a few days.


The fact is that US is the only country that used atomic bombs to kill humans and they were planning to use nukes again against other countries and they would but were prevented by fear of own destruction when other countries made own nukes.

It's also true that China got through the whole cold war with only 12 nuke ICBMs.
They didn't need 30,000 nukes each like the both the USA and Russia built.


They were preoccupied with the cultural revolution but they are catching up now.



Russia and the USA have far less now - 6,000 each - still crazy -
and it looks like China wants the same number.
They could have 1,000 already.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #886 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:50am
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories_of_Ukraine

Amount of Ukrainian territory under Russian control during the conflict.
20 May 2024      18%  ~109,000 km2 (42,000 sq mi)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia
Russia (Russian: Россия) is the largest country in the world, covering over 17,125,191 km2 (6,612,073 sq mi), and encompassing more than one-eighth of Earth's inhabited land area.

42,000/6,612,073 sq mi x 100 = 0.64%


So Putin is prepared to start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over some land equivalent to only 0.64% of the size of Russia.


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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #887 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:53am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 10:10am:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories_of_Ukraine

Amount of Ukrainian territory under Russian control during the conflict.
20 May 2024      18%  ~109,000 km2 (42,000 sq mi)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia
Russia (Russian: Россия) is the largest country in the world, covering over 17,125,191 km2 (6,612,073 sq mi), and encompassing more than one-eighth of Earth's inhabited land area.

42,000/6,612,073 sq mi x 100 = 0.64%


So Putin is prepared to start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over some land equivalent to only 0.64% of the size of Russia.



It takes two to tango, so let's hope that western elites, not clowns on political show circus, but those who really make decisions won't start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over personal enrichment and total global power.
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #888 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:54am
 
Results for November 1, 2024:

• The positions of the Russian Armed Forces in the area with Petrovpavlovka in the Kupyansk direction have been clarified,
• In the Liman direction, the Russian army is entering the settlement of Terny from the north
• The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the liberation of the village of Leonidovka - a suburb of Toretsk/Dzerzhinsk.
• The results of the change in the front line for October have been summed up. Record advances of the Russian army have been recorded.

AFU losses:

Personnel – 2415
Armored vehicles – 13, including:
BBM – 9
APC – 4 "M113"
Auto – 26
Art – 20
EW station and (or) KBB – 6
Field ammunition depot – 2
"ATASMS" (missile) – 5
HIMARS (RS) – 3
UAV – 174
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #889 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:55am
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 10:10am:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories_of_Ukraine

Amount of Ukrainian territory under Russian control during the conflict.
20 May 2024      18%  ~109,000 km2 (42,000 sq mi)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia
Russia (Russian: Россия) is the largest country in the world, covering over 17,125,191 km2 (6,612,073 sq mi), and encompassing more than one-eighth of Earth's inhabited land area.

42,000/6,612,073 sq mi x 100 = 0.64%


So Putin is prepared to start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over some land equivalent to only 0.64% of the size of Russia.



It takes two to tango, so let's hope that western elites, not clowns on political show circus, but those who really make decisions won't start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over personal enrichment and total global power.



At least those clowns would all die with us.
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Reply #890 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:55am:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 10:10am:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian-occupied_territories_of_Ukraine

Amount of Ukrainian territory under Russian control during the conflict.
20 May 2024      18%  ~109,000 km2 (42,000 sq mi)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia
Russia (Russian: Россия) is the largest country in the world, covering over 17,125,191 km2 (6,612,073 sq mi), and encompassing more than one-eighth of Earth's inhabited land area.

42,000/6,612,073 sq mi x 100 = 0.64%


So Putin is prepared to start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over some land equivalent to only 0.64% of the size of Russia.



It takes two to tango, so let's hope that western elites, not clowns on political show circus, but those who really make decisions won't start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over personal enrichment and total global power.

At least those clowns would all die with us.


Without us would be better  Tongue
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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #891 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm
 
Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

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Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory

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Re: Ukraine war update
Reply #892 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:34am:
chimera wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:29am:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:06am:
let's hope that western elites,.. won't start a nuclear war

That would be sad after all the work Vlad has put in so far to get riches and power and Ukraine.

Should anybody worry that you would get sick and die from sadness? 

If things were that sad, then yes
1) Vlad
2) tallowood
would worry.  Tallowood has worked furiously to make Vlad happy.
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Reply #893 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:24pm
 
chimera wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:34am:
chimera wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:29am:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:06am:
let's hope that western elites,.. won't start a nuclear war

That would be sad after all the work Vlad has put in so far to get riches and power and Ukraine.

Should anybody worry that you would get sick and die from sadness? 

If things were that sad, then yes
1) Vlad
2) tallowood
would worry.  Tallowood has worked furiously to make Vlad happy.



chimera is getting sad  Grin
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Reply #894 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:28pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

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Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory



The Short War Theory:
This was the overarching strategic animus in the opening year of the war (2022), which presupposed that Russia was anticipating a short war against an isolated Ukraine. This theory of victory relied on the assumption that Russia would be unwilling or unable to commit the resources necessary in the face of unexpected Ukrainian resistance and a blitz of military support and sanctions from the west. There was a kernel of truth underpinning this theory, in the sense that the resources mobilized on the Russian side were inadequate in the first year of the war (leading to significant Ukrainian successes on the ground in Kharkov, for example), however, this phase of the war ended in the winter of 2022 with Russian mobilization and the shift of the Russian economy to a war footing.
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Reply #895 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:33pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:53am:
let's hope that western elites, .. won't start a nuclear war and destroy the whole
world over personal enrichment and total global power.

chimera is getting sad

ehh?.... Tongue
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Reply #896 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 1:16pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

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Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory



The Crimean Isolation Plan:
This theory of victory took primacy in 2023, and identified Crimea as the strategic center of gravity for Russia. Kiev therefore supposed that Russia could be crippled or knocked out of the war by severing its connection to Crimea - a plan which required capturing a corridor in the land bridge on the Azov coast through a mechanized counteroffensive, bringing Crimea and its linkeages within easy range of Ukrainian strike systems. This plan collapsed with the decisive defeat of the Ukrainian ground operation on the Orokhiv-Robotyne axis.
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Reply #897 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 1:27pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

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Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory



The Attritional Theory:
Presupposed that Ukraine’s defensive posture in the Donbas could impose disproportionate and catastrophic casualties on the Russian Army and utterly degrade Russia’s combat capability, while Ukraine’s own combat power was regenerated through western arms deliveries and training assistance.
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Reply #898 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 1:37pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

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Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory



The Counter-Pressure Theory:
Finally, Ukraine has postulated that a multi-domain pressure campaign on Russia, including the seizure of Russian home territory in Kursk oblast, a campaign of strikes on Russian strategic assets, and the continued strain of western sanctions, would promote the collapse of Russia’s willingness to fight.
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Reply #899 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 1:47pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

Quote:
Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory



The Attritional Theory:
Presupposed that Ukraine’s defensive posture in the Donbas could impose disproportionate and catastrophic casualties on the Russian Army and utterly degrade Russia’s combat capability, while Ukraine’s own combat power was regenerated through western arms deliveries and training assistance.



Dear Tallow,
do you think Putin is greedy to cause so much trouble and so many deaths
over some land equivalent to only 0.64% of the size of Russia?
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