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Reply #930 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 4:52pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 4:06pm:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 3:31pm:
tallowood wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 3:19pm:
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Ukraine's Strategic Waste: A Western Military Analyst's View of the Strategic Situation That Formed During the War

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Understanding the lofty extent of Ukraine’s framework for victory, we can articulate several different “theories of victory” that Ukraine has pursued.
I am labelling them as follows:

The Short War Theory
The Crimean Isolation Plan
The Attritional Theory
The Counter-Pressure Theory



The problem for Ukraine is that, thus far at least, all of their overarching strategic visions have failed - not only in their own particular terms on the ground, but also in their connection to “victory” as such. A concrete example might be useful. Ukraine’s offensive in the Kursk region has failed on the ground (more details on this later) with the advance jammed up by Russian defenses early and now steadily rolled back with heavy losses. But the offensive also fails conceptually: attacking and holding Russian territory in Kursk has made Moscow more intransigent and unwilling to negotiate, and it has failed to meaningfully move the needle on NATO backing for Ukraine.


And this is Ukraine’s problem. It seeks the return of all its 1991 territories, including those that Russia now controls and administers, many of which are far beyond Ukraine’s realistic military reach. It is utterly inconceivable, for example, to contemplate Ukraine recapturing Donetsk with a ground operation. Donetsk is a vast industrial city of nearly a million residents, ensconced far behind Russian frontlines and fully integrated into Russia’s logistical chains. Yet the recapture of Donetsk is an explicit Ukrainian war aim.


We end up with a picture where Ukraine’s overarching strategic concept would appear to be pulling in two directions. Verbally, Zelensky has tied the prospects for negotiations to a de-escalation of the war on Russia’s part (while excluding categorically any negotiations relevant to Russia’s own war aims), but Ukraine’s own actions - attempting to double down on both long range strikes and a ground incursion into Russia - are escalatory, as are the various demands made of NATO in the peace plan. There’s a certain measure of strategic schizophrenia here, which all stems from the fact that Ukraine’s own concept of victory is far beyond its military means.


Ukraine stands today as a stark example of strategic dissipation. Having opted to eschew anything less than the most maximalist sort of victory - full re-attainment of the 1991 borders, NATO membership, and the total defeat of Russia - it now proceeds full speed ahead, with a material base and a gloomy picture on the ground that is utterly unmoored from its own conception of victory. The “victory plan”, such as it exists, is little more than a plea for rescue. It is a country trapped by the two myths that animate its being - on the one hand, the notion of total western military supremacy, and on the other the theory of Russia as a giant with feet of clay, primed to collapse internally from the strain of a war that it is winning.


On the ground, 2024 has been a year of largely unmitigated Russian victories. In the spring, the front transitioned to a new operational phase following Russia’s capture of Avdiivka, which - as I argued at the time - left Ukrainian forces with no obvious places where they could anchor their next line of defense. Russian forces have continued to advance in the southern Donbas largely unabated, and the entire southeastern corner of the front is now buckling under an ongoing Russian offensive.


A brief look at the state of the front reveals the dire state of the AFU’s defenses. Ukrainian lines in the southeast were based on a series of well-defended urban fortresses in a change, running from Ugledar on the southernmost end, to Krasnogorivka (which defended the approach to the Vovcha Reservoir, to Avdiivka (blocking the main line out of Donetsk to the northwest), all the way up to the Toretsk-Niu York agglomeration. The AFU lost the former three at various points in 2024 and are currently holding on to perhaps 50% of Toretsk. The loss of these fortress has unhinged the Ukrainian defense across nearly 100 kilometers of front, and subsequent efforts to stabilize the line have been stymied by a lack of adequate rear defenses, inadequate reserves, and Ukraine’s own decision to funnel many of its best mechanized formations into Kursk. As a consequence, Russia has advanced steadily towards Pokrovsk, carving out a salient some 80 kilometers in circumference.


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Reply #931 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:12pm
 
chimera wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 3:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
He even gave them plenty of the sacred Spitfires -
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This was after Russia supplied the fuel for the bombing of London in 1940.
Because Russia is a nazi state, it presumes that the West is also. Then nazi warfare is justified....



And how did Russia repay the West for all that WW2 assistance? -

they pointed 30,000 nukes at us.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #932 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:14pm
 
In this revealing press conference, American citizen Daniel Martindale shares his compelling story of why he chose to assist the Russian military in its operations in the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR). Recently evacuated by Russian special services, Martindale played a crucial role in providing valuable intelligence that contributed to successful military strategies, including high-precision strikes in the village of Bogoyavlenka.

He discusses his motivations for joining the Russian efforts in the region and the impact of his contributions on minimizing civilian casualties and protecting infrastructure during military operations. As the possibility of granting him political asylum and Russian citizenship is explored, Martindale sheds light on his experiences and the broader implications of foreign involvement in the ongoing conflict. Watch the full press conference to gain insight into this unique perspective on the situation in Donbass.



@19.52 Martindale answers question about US election and candidates.
Have a guess who he will vote for.
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Reply #933 - Nov 4th, 2024 at 10:49pm
 
If Trump wins Ukrainian efforts will be futile and the “ police action “ won by Russia.



It’s a classic proxy war between the west and Russia.

The Ukrainian people are suffering for it.

I also believe British are into this up to their eyeballs but very discrete.

Trump and his party will put Americans in front of support  for another never ending war.

P.s I’m voting for Harris  Cheesy



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Don’t vote for any of them. They just want your money!
 
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Reply #934 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:52am
 
Results for November 2, 2024:

• In the Belgorod region, the Russian Armed Forces have regained positions near the state border south of the village of Zhuravlevka
• The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the liberation of the village of Pershotravnevo in the Kharkov region (Limanskoye direction)
• The encirclement of Kurakhovo continues. From the north, the Russian Armed Forces are advancing near the village of Voznesenka, from the south, the Russian flag is raised over the village of Maksimovka.

AFU losses:

Personnel – 2045
Armored vehicles – 11, including:
Tank – 1
BBM – 6
BMP – 1
APC – 3 (including 2 M113)
Cars – 32
Art – 20, including:
Akatsiya SPG – 1
Gvozdika SPG – 1
CAESAR SPG – 1
Dana SPG – 1
Krab SPG – 2
M109 Paladin SPG – 1
D-20 – 3
D-30 – 5
Msta-B – 1
L119 – 1
M198 – 1
BM-21 Grad MLRS – 2
Enclave-N EW station – 3
An energy infrastructure facility used in the interests of Armed Forces of Ukraine, the command post of the nationalist formation "Kraken", the infrastructure of the military airfield, the fuel base of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the workshop for the production of attack unmanned aerial vehicles
Field ammunition depot - 4
Ammunition depot - 3
"ATASMS" (missile) - 4
"Hammer" (UAV) - 3
UAV - 50
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Reply #935 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 1:58pm
 
chimera wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 3:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
He even gave them plenty of the sacred Spitfires -
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This was after Russia supplied the fuel for the bombing of London in 1940. Because Russia is a nazi state, it presumes that the West is also. Then nazi warfare is justified....



yes - Stalin stood back and laughed when London was bombed in the Blitz -
he supplied the fuel for the Nazis.
He also invaded Poland just like the Nazis.

It's a strange world that we live in.
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Reply #936 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:01pm
 
Mariupol looks like Hiroshima in 1945.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/28/mariupol-before-and-after-updated-...

All the farmland in the invaded areas is now full of mines and unexploded shells -
they are still clearing that stuff in the Somme after more than 100 years.

The whole place is ruined.
Ukraine might as well give it to the Russians - it's so badly damaged and
will bankrupt Russia trying to fix it.

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Reply #937 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:09pm
 
Putin invades Bobby's head day and night.

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Reply #938 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:25pm
 
Footage of the attack on AFU at Kiyanitsa with cassettes.

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Reply #939 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:09pm:
Putin invades Bobby's head day and night.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2165/4OyUUT.png



How can Putin even exist without smashing up the whole world?  -

is he the anti-Christ spoke of in the End Times revelations?


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Reply #940 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
FPV drone burns the creation of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, the armored car "Kazak-2M"

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Reply #941 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 4:02pm
 
FPV drones hunt AFU tank.

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Reply #944 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 12:58pm
 

Trump is winning -

the war will be over soon -  thank God.
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