freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:22am:






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thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 2:07pm:



BTW - First solar was 1839.

So 1839 is not old technology?

Frank wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 6:26pm:

Poor TGD.

Fail to Plan - Plan to Fail. 

And that's what you are doing by not planning how much storage is required. thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 11:32am:



So Keen is into silly games. Nice to know.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 11:32am:



Oh dear the madness of crowds strike again. Nothing to do with science, just fear porn.

But perhaps you can elucidate on the "climate emergency".

"There's still time to avert catastrophic global climate change. The greatest threat to meaningful action is despair among those who care about the climate, according to renowned climate scientist Michael E. Mann.

“I push back on doomism because I don’t think it’s justified by the science, and I think it potentially leads us down a path of inaction,” said Mann during a March 28 talk at the Belfer Center. “And there are bad actors today who are fanning the flames of climate doomism because they understand that it takes those who are most likely to be on the front lines, advocating for change, and pushes them to the sidelines, which is where polluters and petrostates want them.” "

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/climate-science-doesnt-support-doomers-...

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 12:55pm:


He still believes in 2050, he knows we won't get to 43% of 2005 emissions by 2030. And Labor has locked that in.

But in other news --

"The anti-windfarm ‘odd couple’ joining forces to fight the renewable energy projects Australia’s already failing to build


Deep in coal country, a lifelong environmentalist and one-time Greens candidate is feeling the applause.

It’s Thursday night at a Gladstone pub and Steven Nowakowski has won over sceptical locals.

His message is a simple one; he believes a wave of new windfarm developments threatens to smash hilltops and turn koala habitat into “industrial zones”.

The green movement, he says, are in “la-la land” over windfarms, a comment that draws nods and knowing smiles from the audience.

But its only when one local suggests building a new coal-fired power station does the crowd erupt in spontaneous applause.

This is the front line of Australia’s latest climate war.

Nowakowski, a nature lover who says he’s been arrested fighting for forests, shares the stage with ultra-conservative federal MP Colin Boyce, a man who claims burning fossil fuels creates “plant food”.

“We’re an odd couple,” Nowakowski admits. “I shake my head in disbelief. I cannot believe that I’m in this situation.”

…

“We’re going down the wrong path,” he says. “We can’t destroy biodiversity to save the planet.”

…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-10/renewable-energy-projects-wind-farm-face-...

Greens against windfarms? How bizarre.

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 12:23pm:


That's what the coalition has been doing for 2 decades. Making promises they cannot keep.

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 2:13pm:


They don't wait 20 years to start thinking about how to keep them.

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 3:39pm:


Sure there is. The coalition were doing their best to make sure of it, at the same time as promising they were committed to it. Do you ever get concerned that they might keep their promises, are are you quietly confident they have been lying the whole time?