Karnal wrote on Jun 10
th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 9
th, 2024 at 3:16pm:
Thirty-seven states have so far changed their mail-in voting procedures this year in response to the Coronavirus.
Despite frequent claims that President Trump’s warning about vote fraud/voting buying with mail-in ballots is “baselessly” or “without evidence” about mail-in vote fraud, there are numerous examples of vote fraud and vote buying with mail-in ballots in the United States and across the world. Indeed, concerns over vote fraud and vote buying with mail-in ballots causes the vast majority of countries to ban mail-in voting unless the citizen is living abroad.There are fraud problems with mail-in absentee ballots but the problems with universal mail-in ballots are much more significant. Still most countries ban even absentee ballots for people living in their countries.
Most developed countries ban absentee ballots unless the citizen is living abroad or require Photo-IDs to obtain those ballots. Even higher percentages of European Union or other European countries ban absentee for in country voters. In addition, some countries that allow voting by mail for citizens living the country don’t allow it for everyone. For example, Japan and Poland have limited mail-in voting to those who have special certificates verifying that they are disabled.
France has made an exception this year to the ban on absentee ballots to those who are sick or at particular risk during the Coronavirus pandemic. Poland and two cities in Russia have adopted mail-in ballots for elections this year only, but most countries haven't changed their regulations.
France banned absentee voting in 1975 because of massive fraud in Corsica, where postal ballots were stolen or bought and voters cast multiple votes. Mail-in ballots were used to cast the votes of dead people. Examples for other countries are provided.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259 Strange. We don't. Does Denmark?
Now, over to you to defend voting by mail, you naughty old thing.
Always absolutely never ever, innit.
You cannot compare the US system to Australia's, wee paki. Even you would know that.
You identified the guys at the Heritage Foundation as the experts. Here's what they say:
Given the inherent security problems with mail-in ballots, their use should be very limited, and states should protect the integrity of the absentee-voting process by ensuring accurate voter-registration rolls, requiring voter identification, banning permanent absentee-ballots lists that risk ballots being mailed by election officials to voters who have died or moved out of state, and prohibiting vote trafficking.
One final note. Maintaining public confidence in the integrity of the election process is essential to ensuring that citizens participate. Processing and counting mail-in ballots takes longer than processing ballots cast in person, especially when states imprudently allow absentee ballots to be returned days after Election Day. A recent poll by the Trafalgar Group shows that the longer it takes for election officials to report election results, the less likely the public is to trust the results.
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/we-shouldnt-be-promoting-...Also:
State legislatures enacted an almost unprecedented number of voting-related laws in 2023, with more of the same expected in 2024.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-2023...So mail-in voting in 2024 will not be like it was in 2020.
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