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I think it's a smart move
Jun 11th, 2024 at 9:19am
 
While a certain DL is promising to SHUT DOWN THE BORDER, other (actual) presidents are working on the problem.

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In attempting to curtail immigration, the U.S. looks for allies in Latin America


Last week President Joe Biden announced Executive Actions which, with some exceptions, effectively closes the border to most undocumented asylum seekers.

This is the latest of a series of measures the administration has enacted in recent weeks with the goal of curtailing illegal immigration into the country.

In pursuing that objective, the administration has also been leaning on governments of Mexico and Central America, where the outcome of recent presidential elections could impact the flow of migrants to the US.

US immigration policy is toothless without Mexican cooperation, which has been in effect for decades.

Current President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has been accepting deportees, and last year deployed the Mexican national guard to police migration, leading to serious accusations of human rights abuses.

The recent election of President Claudia Scheinbaum is unlikely to change much, migration has become a major issue in Mexico.

“It now is a priority for Mexico”, says Lila Abad, of the Wilson Center. “And that’s because Mexico is no longer just a transit country. It is now a destination country.”

Like her predecessor, Scheinbaum has said that in order to stop immigration, root causes like poverty must be addressed.

While the recent Mexican elections don’t change much, there have been several significant shifts in Central America. Panama recently electedPresident Jose Raul Mulino, who has vowed to close the Darien Gap, the dangerous jungle region that hundreds of thousands of migrants trek through to get to the U.S. every year. It’s not clear how Mulino would do that.

At the end of the day, immigration analysts say deterrence alone doesn’t work long term to curb irregular migration, certainly not when people are fleeing for their lives.

To that point, perhaps one of the most impacting of migration is happening in Venezuela, a country going through a severe humanitarian crisis. Around 7.7 million Venezuelan migrants and refugees have been displaced as of last year. The exodus shows no signs of slowing down.

Estefani, a Venezuelan mom living in a New York City shelter, recently told NPR she knew the route to the U.S. could be dangerous, even deadly, but she didn’t feel she had a choice. She asked for her name to be withheld because she was sexually assaulted on her journey.

“Raising a child in Venezuela is very difficult. You can feed them lunch, but then there’s no dinner,” she said.

Estefani tried to live in Colombia and Ecuador, and eventually got desperate enough that she ventured to the U.S.

As presidential campaigns intensify in the United States, there is a growing pressure for Latin American countries to help enforce immigration. But analysts say that as long as people like Estefani see no other choice but to pick up and leave their country, any deterrence policies in the U.S.-Mexico border is no more than a short-lived fix.


https://www.npr.org/2024/06/10/g-s1-3467/asylum-immigration-biden-sheinbaum-buke...

The jig's up, leftards. All DL can do is make threats, come to power, do nothing and pretend he never promised in the first place.

The only way to stop people fleeing for their lives over a porous land border is to work with the countries in between. There are no other workable options on the table.

Far from emptying their jails, mental hospitals and worse - mental institutions, which for some unknown reason are a level far higher - neighbouring governments are trying to assist. After all, they're getting illegal border crossers too.

Sure, we can all pretend we'll "close the border", but if DL gets erected, he'll face exactly the number of illegal arrivals Sleepy Joe's getting today, but we all know what he'll do with figures like that, now don't we?

He's always been a fan of alternative facts.

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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:11pm
 
the "barely paying attention" mainstream masses will not give Joe one extra vote for this act which is way too little too late

in fact, they might think 'why did he wait til his poll figures were tanking ' to act?

trump owns the border issue

if you think biden wins by talking about the border, you are more demented then Joe  Grin Grin
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Reply #2 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 1:56pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 9:19am:
While a certain DL is promising to SHUT DOWN THE BORDER, other (actual) presidents are working on the problem.

Quote:
In attempting to curtail immigration, the U.S. looks for allies in Latin America


Last week President Joe Biden announced Executive Actions which, with some exceptions, effectively closes the border to most undocumented asylum seekers.

This is the latest of a series of measures the administration has enacted in recent weeks with the goal of curtailing illegal immigration into the country.

In pursuing that objective, the administration has also been leaning on governments of Mexico and Central America, where the outcome of recent presidential elections could impact the flow of migrants to the US.

US immigration policy is toothless without Mexican cooperation, which has been in effect for decades.

Current President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has been accepting deportees, and last year deployed the Mexican national guard to police migration, leading to serious accusations of human rights abuses.

The recent election of President Claudia Scheinbaum is unlikely to change much, migration has become a major issue in Mexico.

“It now is a priority for Mexico”, says Lila Abad, of the Wilson Center. “And that’s because Mexico is no longer just a transit country. It is now a destination country.”

Like her predecessor, Scheinbaum has said that in order to stop immigration, root causes like poverty must be addressed.

While the recent Mexican elections don’t change much, there have been several significant shifts in Central America. Panama recently electedPresident Jose Raul Mulino, who has vowed to close the Darien Gap, the dangerous jungle region that hundreds of thousands of migrants trek through to get to the U.S. every year. It’s not clear how Mulino would do that.

At the end of the day, immigration analysts say deterrence alone doesn’t work long term to curb irregular migration, certainly not when people are fleeing for their lives.

To that point, perhaps one of the most impacting of migration is happening in Venezuela, a country going through a severe humanitarian crisis. Around 7.7 million Venezuelan migrants and refugees have been displaced as of last year. The exodus shows no signs of slowing down.

Estefani, a Venezuelan mom living in a New York City shelter, recently told NPR she knew the route to the U.S. could be dangerous, even deadly, but she didn’t feel she had a choice. She asked for her name to be withheld because she was sexually assaulted on her journey.

“Raising a child in Venezuela is very difficult. You can feed them lunch, but then there’s no dinner,” she said.

Estefani tried to live in Colombia and Ecuador, and eventually got desperate enough that she ventured to the U.S.

As presidential campaigns intensify in the United States, there is a growing pressure for Latin American countries to help enforce immigration. But analysts say that as long as people like Estefani see no other choice but to pick up and leave their country, any deterrence policies in the U.S.-Mexico border is no more than a short-lived fix.


https://www.npr.org/2024/06/10/g-s1-3467/asylum-immigration-biden-sheinbaum-buke...

The jig's up, leftards. All DL can do is make threats, come to power, do nothing and pretend he never promised in the first place.

The only way to stop people fleeing for their lives over a porous land border is to work with the countries in between. There are no other workable options on the table.

Far from emptying their jails, mental hospitals and worse - mental institutions, which for some unknown reason are a level far higher - neighbouring governments are trying to assist. After all, they're getting illegal border crossers too.

Sure, we can all pretend we'll "close the border", but if DL gets erected, he'll face exactly the number of illegal arrivals Sleepy Joe's getting today, but we all know what he'll do with figures like that, now don't we?

He's always been a fan of alternative facts.

You?


Oh!? "Illegal immigration"?? 
Not wacist any more?  Only if a Republican says it is it wacist.

Sleepy Joe alone can CONTROL borders, anyone else - "we all know what he'll do with figures like that, now don't we?"

There is nuffin' like a little grimacing, a little hinty-hinty. Ten rupee give him.

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Reply #3 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:05pm
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:12pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:11pm:
the "barely paying attention" mainstream masses will not give Joe one extra vote for this act which is way too little too late

in fact, they might think 'why did he wait til his poll figures were tanking ' to act?

trump owns the border issue

if you think biden wins by talking about the border, you are more demented then Joe  Grin Grin


Oh? So how's the person you so dismissively refer to as "trump" going to fix this pressing issue?

If you don't want to answer this, just say.

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Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 9:19am:
While a certain DL is promising to SHUT DOWN THE BORDER, other (actual) presidents are working on the problem.

Quote:
In attempting to curtail immigration, the U.S. looks for allies in Latin America


Last week President Joe Biden announced Executive Actions which, with some exceptions, effectively closes the border to most undocumented asylum seekers.

This is the latest of a series of measures the administration has enacted in recent weeks with the goal of curtailing illegal immigration into the country.

In pursuing that objective, the administration has also been leaning on governments of Mexico and Central America, where the outcome of recent presidential elections could impact the flow of migrants to the US.

US immigration policy is toothless without Mexican cooperation, which has been in effect for decades.

Current President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has been accepting deportees, and last year deployed the Mexican national guard to police migration, leading to serious accusations of human rights abuses.

The recent election of President Claudia Scheinbaum is unlikely to change much, migration has become a major issue in Mexico.

“It now is a priority for Mexico”, says Lila Abad, of the Wilson Center. “And that’s because Mexico is no longer just a transit country. It is now a destination country.”

Like her predecessor, Scheinbaum has said that in order to stop immigration, root causes like poverty must be addressed.

While the recent Mexican elections don’t change much, there have been several significant shifts in Central America. Panama recently electedPresident Jose Raul Mulino, who has vowed to close the Darien Gap, the dangerous jungle region that hundreds of thousands of migrants trek through to get to the U.S. every year. It’s not clear how Mulino would do that.

At the end of the day, immigration analysts say deterrence alone doesn’t work long term to curb irregular migration, certainly not when people are fleeing for their lives.

To that point, perhaps one of the most impacting of migration is happening in Venezuela, a country going through a severe humanitarian crisis. Around 7.7 million Venezuelan migrants and refugees have been displaced as of last year. The exodus shows no signs of slowing down.

Estefani, a Venezuelan mom living in a New York City shelter, recently told NPR she knew the route to the U.S. could be dangerous, even deadly, but she didn’t feel she had a choice. She asked for her name to be withheld because she was sexually assaulted on her journey.

“Raising a child in Venezuela is very difficult. You can feed them lunch, but then there’s no dinner,” she said.

Estefani tried to live in Colombia and Ecuador, and eventually got desperate enough that she ventured to the U.S.

As presidential campaigns intensify in the United States, there is a growing pressure for Latin American countries to help enforce immigration. But analysts say that as long as people like Estefani see no other choice but to pick up and leave their country, any deterrence policies in the U.S.-Mexico border is no more than a short-lived fix.


https://www.npr.org/2024/06/10/g-s1-3467/asylum-immigration-biden-sheinbaum-buke...

The jig's up, leftards. All DL can do is make threats, come to power, do nothing and pretend he never promised in the first place.

The only way to stop people fleeing for their lives over a porous land border is to work with the countries in between. There are no other workable options on the table.

Far from emptying their jails, mental hospitals and worse - mental institutions, which for some unknown reason are a level far higher - neighbouring governments are trying to assist. After all, they're getting illegal border crossers too.

Sure, we can all pretend we'll "close the border", but if DL gets erected, he'll face exactly the number of illegal arrivals Sleepy Joe's getting today, but we all know what he'll do with figures like that, now don't we?

He's always been a fan of alternative facts.

You?


Oh!? "Illegal immigration"?? 
Not wacist any more?  Only if a Republican says it is it wacist.

Sleepy Joe alone can CONTROL borders, anyone else - "we all know what he'll do with figures like that, now don't we?"

There is nuffin' like a little grimacing, a little hinty-hinty. Ten rupee give him.



We'll give you ten kroner for a serious reply, dear boy.

You flew here. You can do better than this, shurely.

Sugar on the table, is it?
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Reply #6 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 2:21pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 11th, 2024 at 12:11pm:
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trump owns the border issue

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Indeed.

Remember that big beautiful wall he built?

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Has Mexico finished paying it off yet?  I'm curious.
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Reply #7 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 3:19pm
 
Trump being strong on the US-Mexico border, having them pay for the wall etc, it's just another lie like locally that the Liberal party are the better economic managers.

If Biden can actually be strong in this area, it will hurt Trump, at least with voters who actually care about the issue they claim to.

Which for most Trump fanatics isn't very many, but Trump needs more than them to vote for him if he has a chance at not losing to Biden again.

The funny thing is, I'm already seeing the same crowd demanding Trump do more crying about what Biden is doing.

It's just political for those weak souls.  They don't care about anything but their guy winning.  That's it.

Sounds all too familiar.
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