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Re: Norton
Reply #45 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

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Re: Norton
Reply #46 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

Chrome OS doesn't get viruses.

Can Chromebooks get viruses?

The short answer is no. While no system is 100% secure, ChromeOS operates uniquely, protecting it from computer viruses plaguing Windows and MacOS devices. ChromeOS contains each web page and app in a separate sandbox environment, effectively shutting it off from the rest of the system. Even if you visit a nefarious web page or fall for a phishing scam, anything directed your way shouldn't be able to access the rest of the system.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102565 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Norton Reply #47 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am: The question I put is - why aren't operating system files protected from viruses? Chrome OS doesn't get viruses. Nonsense - see my Reply #34.
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Re: Norton
Reply #48 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 1:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

Chrome OS doesn't get viruses.

Nonsense - see my Reply #34. Roll Eyes

Can Chromebooks get viruses?

The short answer is no. While no system is 100% secure, ChromeOS operates uniquely, protecting it from computer viruses plaguing Windows and MacOS devices. ChromeOS contains each web page and app in a separate sandbox environment, effectively shutting it off from the rest of the system. Even if you visit a nefarious web page or fall for a phishing scam, anything directed your way shouldn't be able to access the rest of the system.

I've not had a single virus or problem in 15 years.

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Reply #49 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 6:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

No one knows what Microsoft is doing.
I have Win10.

Their new Win11 looks like little more than spyware.
I don't want it.
They should have made Windows immune to viruses 20 years ago.
Much of the source code is secret which means Microsoft should be able to put all sorts
of blocks in there to viruses and malware.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24530 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Norton Reply #50 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 7:44pm How are you going to make Windows "immune to viruses"? Computer viruses are written by people all the time. All Microsoft can do is to put an antivirus program on Windows and hope that they have enough programmers to undo any virus issues that pop up in future.
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Reply #51 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 7:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

No one knows what Microsoft is doing.
I have Win10.

Their new Win11 looks like little more than spyware.
I don't want it.
They should have made Windows immune to viruses 20 years ago.
Much of the source code is secret which means Microsoft should be able to put all sorts
of blocks in there to viruses and malware.

A hardware upgrade is your answer Bobby.

The one below will not be infected by software viruses.

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Reply #52 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 8:45pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 7:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

No one knows what Microsoft is doing.
I have Win10.

Their new Win11 looks like little more than spyware.
I don't want it.
They should have made Windows immune to viruses 20 years ago.
Much of the source code is secret which means Microsoft should be able to put all sorts
of blocks in there to viruses and malware.

A hardware upgrade is your answer Bobby.

The one below will not be infected by software viruses.

[url]https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/cardboard-laptop-photo-white-backgrou
nd-33719171.jpg[/url]

Is that whay you use it?

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Reply #53 - Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 10:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

It's probably one of the biggest motivators for people to switch to linux or other alternatives. It's not that they don't want to. I doubt they can. At least, not with the user experience they are selling.

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Reply #54 - Jun 23^rd, 2024 at 12:23am

Setanta wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 8:45pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 7:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 6:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

No one knows what Microsoft is doing.
I have Win10.

Their new Win11 looks like little more than spyware.
I don't want it.
They should have made Windows immune to viruses 20 years ago.
Much of the source code is secret which means Microsoft should be able to put all sorts
of blocks in there to viruses and malware.

A hardware upgrade is your answer Bobby.

The one below will not be infected by software viruses.

[url]https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/cardboard-laptop-photo-white-backgrou
nd-33719171.jpg[/url]

Is that whay you use it?

Setanta is desperately seeking help.

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Re: Norton
Reply #55 - Jun 24^th, 2024 at 3:10pm

freediver wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 10:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2024 at 11:48am:

The question I put is -
why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

How can a virus alter an operating system file?
You'd think Windows would have a way of locking system files up so they couldn't be modified
unless it was a Windows update.
Microsoft is worth $3.34 trillion - you'd think they'd have the resources to stop viruses.

You really think they want to stop them?

It's probably one of the biggest motivators for people to switch to linux or other alternatives. It's not that they don't want to. I doubt they can. At least, not with the user experience they are selling.

Does anyone know the answer to my question?

why aren't operating system files protected from viruses?

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Reply #57 - Jun 24^th, 2024 at 4:16pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

They are protected from viruses, using anti-virus programs.

Thou hath not understood what I said.

The system files must get altered by viruses but they
should be protected from alteration by anything but a proper recognised Microsoft program.

If you get a very bad virus the system files are so badly wrecked that you
have to format the hard disk and reload windows -
no repair is possible.

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Reply #59 - Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:49pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

I guess I do not understand what you mean.

There are many different types of files on your computer.
The simplest are data files such as photos and videos.
You can alter those but the computer will still run.

Operating system files are different -
if they are altered it can stop you computer from working.
Some of those are able to be used by programs but others
should be locked away and unalterable except by a Windows update but they are not.

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