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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #45 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:12pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:45pm:

No consultation withlocals, no environmental studies.

Mr potato Head thinks he's in north Korea Cheesy

Read the article. They are replacing coal-fired power stations. I would suggest that zero emissions from the nuclear power stations would be more ideal than coal power stations spewing pollution.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #46 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:18pm

JC Denton wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

people have a right to decide what is built in their neighbourhoods if the locals dont want it spuddo has to go back to the drawing board

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On average, Americans receive a radiation dose of about 0.62 rem (620 millirem) each year. Half of this dose comes from natural background radiation. Most of this background exposure comes from radon in the air, with smaller amounts from cosmic rays and the Earth itself. (The chart to the right shows these radiation doses in perspective.) The other half (0.31 rem or 310 mrem) comes from man-made sources of radiation, including medical, commercial, and industrial sources. In general, a yearly dose of 620 millirem from all radiation sources has not been shown to cause humans any harm.

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An operating nuclear power plant produces very small amounts of radioactive gases and liquids, as well as small amounts of direct radiation. If you lived within 50 miles of a nuclear power plant, you would receive an average radiation dose of about 0.01 millirem per year.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #47 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

Isn't nuclear power prohibited by law in Australia?

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Nuclear power is banned in Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland, which prompted questions in the party room on Wednesday. The Coalition would also require the Senate to overturn the federal ban.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/19/coalition-nuclear-pl...

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #48 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

Sounds like a good idea but wait -

What if we would have kept our enormous gas reserves for ourselves
instead of giving it away for rock bottom prices to countries overseas?
Would it have been enough to tide us over until
renewables could take their place?

Let us think about this realistically. I recall hearing about how the Australian government sells China our gas at rock bottom prices. It is for the purpose of paying off the Chinese with a concession, so that the Chinese can buy other Australian exports at better prices for Australian interests.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #49 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:23pm:

MattE wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

3. Australia will already have a site for nuclear waste. We will have it due to our nuclear submarines.

Where?

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The Sandy Ridge facility is located about 240 km northwest of Kalgoorlie, Western Australia, and has been licensed since January 2023. The repository uses kaolin clay on a bed of impermeable granite to isolate LLW and other hazardous wastes.

Source: https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/appendices/radioactive-waste-repos...

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #50 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

MattE wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:23pm:

MattE wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

3. Australia will already have a site for nuclear waste. We will have it due to our nuclear submarines.

Where?

There will be a nuclear waste facility.

Where?

Victoria, Bobby's backyard, actually. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You're funny. Bobby has already got two heads.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 23932 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants Reply #51 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:36pm Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:59pm: The Coalition's nuclear power plan misses one key component: the cost Such as... reducing carbon emissions.
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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #53 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:54pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:

Isn't nuclear power prohibited by law in Australia?

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Nuclear power is banned in Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland, which prompted questions in the party room on Wednesday. The Coalition would also require the Senate to overturn the federal ban.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/19/coalition-nuclear-pl...

Tell Dutton to get back to me once he repeals all that legislation.

And ask him how he's going to do it in the states.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #54 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 10:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:54pm:

Tell Dutton to get back to me once he repeals all that legislation.

And ask him how he's going to do it in the states.

Grin

Dutton is going to cite all the times you climate alarmists ("Chicken Littles") whinged about climate change. Then Dutton will reiterate how his nuclear energy plan would help undo the amount of carbon emissions such power generators like coal-fired power stations have made.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #55 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 10:06pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

The Coalition's nuclear power plan misses one key component:

the cost

Such as... reducing carbon emissions.

No, of building and operating a nuclear reactor. Unsub. Are you really that stupid? I forget, you're from Queensland, aren't you? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #56 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 10:13pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 9:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 4:20pm:

Sounds like a good idea but wait -

What if we would have kept our enormous gas reserves for ourselves
instead of giving it away for rock bottom prices to countries overseas?
Would it have been enough to tide us over until
renewables could take their place?

Let us think about this realistically. I recall hearing about how the Australian government sells China our gas at rock bottom prices. It is for the purpose of paying off the Chinese with a concession, so that the Chinese can buy other Australian exports at better prices for Australian interests.

But we're being ripped off:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1718052441/0#0

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #58 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 10:24pm

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Liddell in NSW, in the Hunter Valley

Brilliant the Hunter area have earthquakes - just what nuclear plants need most. This is the Dutton level of competence on view.

Who could trust anything he he has to say on nuclear?

Why would you want the least clever potential leader we have seen in decades talking about topics like this?

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #59 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 11:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 10:24pm:

Brilliant the Hunter area have earthquakes - just what nuclear plants need most. This is the Dutton level of competence on view.

Australia is one of the safest places for earthquakes the closest major fault line runs from NZ to PNG up to Asian ring of fire.

We get a few 2.5-3 quakes which aren't felt but can be recorded.

It's not that often we get quakes that cause damage
https://www.mtu.edu/geo/community/seismology/learn/earthquake-measure/magnitude/

Bob Hawke wasn't a bedwetter when it came to nuclear power we can't say the same about Labor today.

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