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Reply #90 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #91 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear - as distinct from the current position of let us never think about nuclear.

But the bozo element (teals, gweens, Bowens) gets really discombobulated if they are invited to think about things beyond their comfort blankets.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #92 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:18pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear -

No.

He's saying he's going to do it, if elected.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #93 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

Peter Dutton reveals seven sites for proposed nuclear power plants

Peter Dutton has announced he will go to the next election promising to build seven nuclear power stations.

Mr Dutton has promised the first sites can be operational between 2035 and 2037, several years earlier than the timeframe the CSIRO and other experts believe is feasible.

As had been previously flagged, the stations are all on retiring or retired coal sites.

The seven sites are:

Tarong in Queensland, north-west of Brisbane

Callide in Queensland, west of Gladstone

Liddell in NSW, in the Hunter Valley

Mount Piper in NSW, near Lithgow

Port Augusta in SA

Loy Yang in Victoria, in the Latrobe Valley

Muja in WA, near Collie

If you just don't know -

give Dutton the NO

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #94 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:43pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

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These regulations she refers to can be undone by the government of the day

How long do you think that will take?

There will be resistance by those who put their ideology above the national interest, so it will take longer than it needs to. However once the public becomes better educated the support base these idealouges (sic) rely upon will all but vanish. It is happening now,

as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.

https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Give us a
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cking BREAK
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Have a look at who held this "poll" ?

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #95 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:52pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:43pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:36pm:

Quote:

These regulations she refers to can be undone by the government of the day

How long do you think that will take?

There will be resistance by those who put their ideology above the national interest, so it will take longer than it needs to. However once the public becomes better educated the support base these idealouges (sic) rely upon will all but vanish. It is happening now,

as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.

https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Give us a
fu
cking BREAK
!

Have a look at who held this "poll" ?

.

Not only that, it doesn't say what he claims it says.

He says it reveals: "the majority of Australians favour nuclear power."

It says absolutely nothing like that.

Here is what it actually says:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Tsk tsk Roll Eyes

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #96 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear -

No.

He's saying he's going to do it, if elected.

You are lying, despicable shhit.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #97 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:44pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear - as distinct from the current position of let us never think about nuclear.

But the bozo element (teals, gweens, Bowens) gets really discombobulated if they are invited to think about things beyond their comfort blankets.

If Dutton was into thinking about things he would not have announced that he could give us nuclear power plants in 5 years.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #98 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:51pm

He is putting nuclear on the discussion table. In a federation it is not just a matter of doing a Putin or a Macron. So the states and the electorate generally will have a say.

Will have a say - as distinct from the current dispensation of being ruled out of having a say.

It may not be a winner. But not ruling it out of hand, without any discussion, as is the case now, is a distinctly rational improvement.

Discussing it is an infinitely more rational approach than not talking about it.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #99 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:54pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear -

No.

He's saying he's going to do it, if elected.

You are lying, despicable shhit.

You have an incredible capacity for simply tuning out anything you don;t want to accept. It's really quite phenomenal.

From the OP:

"Peter Dutton has announced he will go to the next election promising to build seven nuclear power stations."

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Reply #101 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:54pm

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He is putting nuclear on the discussion table.

He is announcing policy, and waiting until after the election to think about whether he can deliver on his promises.

The only thing the coalition can promise you is another decade or two of crippling uncertainty and skyrocketing prices in the electricity industry.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #102 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:02pm

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear -

No.

He's saying he's going to do it, if elected.

You are lying, despicable shhit.

You have an incredible capacity for simply tuning out anything you don;t want to accept. It's really quite phenomenal.

From the OP:

"Peter Dutton has announced he will go to the next election promising to build seven nuclear power stations."

You are a stupid, semi literate blowhard with minimal intelligence and maximum agitation.

OP headline, from the abc:

Peter Dutton reveals seven sites for proposed nuclear power plants

propose
verb
past tense: proposed; past participle: proposed
1.
put forward (a plan or suggestion) for consideration by others.

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Re: Dutton reveals 7 sites for nuclear power plants
Reply #103 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:03pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Quote:

He is putting nuclear on the discussion table.

He is announcing policy, and waiting until after the election to think about whether he can deliver on his promises.

The only thing the coalition can promise you is another decade or two of crippling uncertainty and skyrocketing prices in the electricity industry.

Remove the moronic, ideological block to nuclear first.

A great step. Much better than ruling it out of hand.

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Reply #104 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:06pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:02pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

... as noted above the majority of Australians favour nuclear power.
https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/australian-support-for-considering-nuclear-e...

Do you have a link to that actual poll from three years ago - the questions and results?

Note what they're reporting:

"The Australian Nuclear Association Inc (ANA) is encouraged by the latest polling out on Friday that shows a growing number of Australians support the consideration of a civilian nuclear power industry in Australia."

Support for the "consideration", not support for the construction and implementation of.

There's a huge difference.

It's just saying that - three years ago - there was strong support for thinking about the matter; and why wouldn't there be?

However, consideration is a long way from acceptance and then ultimately construction.

And that is what Dutton is putting on the table: let's think about nuclear -

No.

He's saying he's going to do it, if elected.

You are lying, despicable shhit.

You have an incredible capacity for simply tuning out anything you don;t want to accept. It's really quite phenomenal.

From the OP:

"Peter Dutton has announced he will go to the next election promising to build seven nuclear power stations."

You are a stupid, semi literate blowhard with minimal intelligence and maximum agitation.

OP headline, from the abc:

Peter Dutton reveals seven sites for proposed nuclear power plants

propose
verb
past tense: proposed; past participle: proposed
1.
put forward (a plan or suggestion) for consideration by others.

If i were you, i would implement a tendency to think things all the way through before committing yourself to an openly stated opinion. You'd spare yourself such humiliation. Maybe you'd be in a better temper then?

The sites are proposed, fruitbat. The proposed sites.

He's promising to go nuclear. This is simply an announcement of the proposed sites.

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