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Jun 23rd, 2024 at 5:56pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 5:13pm:
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How much of that rapid increase is due to the CCP being such slow learners that by the time they transitioned to capitalism, all they had to do was step back and allow the foreign investors to pour money in.


Er ...the CCP are fast learners, the nation is now leading the world in nuclear, EVs and PVs ( and likely be the first to return material from the 'dark' side of the moon shortly.


If they are such fast learners, why did it take 50 million deaths for them to even realise something was up, when anyone who could read an economics textbook would have seen it coming?
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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 6:01pm
 
My casual observations of CCP members give me the impression that they are good manipulators.
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Reply #2 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 6:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 5:56pm:
If they are such fast learners, why did it take 50 million deaths for them to even realise something was up, when anyone who could read an economics textbook would have seen it coming?


The Great Famine in China was rather ironic. The government were trying to increase production of agricultural products. But, their techniques ended up reducing food production.

1. Agricultural technique of overproduction. This led to crops having failed because the crops were competing with each other for soil nutrients.
2. The mass killing of sparrows. The sparrows would be the predator to the crop-eating insects. No sparrows around, the insects were able to destroy crops unopposed.
3. There was a misunderstanding about the amount of grain production. Farmers then shifted to other crops that would have made the farmers more money. The government exported too much grain overseas, for the purpose of increasing foreign capital to invest in the industrialisation.
4. Industrialisation led to farmers moving from farms into industries. The lack of manpower in the farms cut production of agriculture.
5. Same again with the natural disasters. Although flooding did not lead to destruction of crops. There were the matter of 2 million workers (mainly farmers) being ordered to help repair the banks of flood affected rivers. Therefore, farms were not tended.

They learned their lessons. But it took a long time for them to learn. I bet the One Child Policy might well have hastened the changing policy of how to deal with preventing famines in China. If the CCP had some political opposition, there would have been some motivation to get more done early to avert famines in China.
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Reply #3 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 6:49pm
 
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The mass killing of sparrows.


They also killed a lot of farmers and food distributors for being "capitalist swine". You have to kill a lot of people before you can get away with starving 50 million people to death. That is one lesson the CCP did learn quickly.
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Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 7:18pm
 
They did not "get away with" killing 50 million in starvations. The starvation happened because of mismanagement of the CCP in dealing with trying to produce a greater agricultural harvest.
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Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 9:02pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 7:18pm:
They did not "get away with" killing 50 million in starvations. The starvation happened because of mismanagement of the CCP in dealing with trying to produce a greater agricultural harvest.


How many other governments have stayed in power after killing 50 million of their own citizens?

In total, it's probably closer to 100 million.
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 7:52am
 
hope china invades australia and ships all the cookers to groot eylandt
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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:29pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 9:02pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 7:18pm:
They did not "get away with" killing 50 million in starvations. The starvation happened because of mismanagement of the CCP in dealing with trying to produce a greater agricultural harvest.


How many other governments have stayed in power after killing 50 million of their own citizens?

In total, it's probably closer to 100 million.


How are you going to oust a government in charge of 600 million people? You would never be able to drum up enough support among the locals to be able to effect a coup. I don't care how angry the locals are with the death toll, they would be powerless to do much about the political change. In fact, in the 1960s, very few Chinese had televisions to see footage of a death toll from malnutrition and related illnesses. Further, any television footage available would have been heavily sanitised of criticism about the Chinese government.
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Reply #8 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:29pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 7:52am:
hope china invades australia and ships all the cookers to groot eylandt


"Cookers"?

Definition: "(slang, derogatory, Australia) A person who is cooked; a crazy person."
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Reply #9 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 2:32pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 9:02pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2024 at 7:18pm:
They did not "get away with" killing 50 million in starvations. The starvation happened because of mismanagement of the CCP in dealing with trying to produce a greater agricultural harvest.


How many other governments have stayed in power after killing 50 million of their own citizens?

In total, it's probably closer to 100 million.


How are you going to oust a government in charge of 600 million people? You would never be able to drum up enough support among the locals to be able to effect a coup. I don't care how angry the locals are with the death toll, they would be powerless to do much about the political change. In fact, in the 1960s, very few Chinese had televisions to see footage of a death toll from malnutrition and related illnesses. Further, any television footage available would have been heavily sanitised of criticism about the Chinese government.


There are all sorts of options. They could follow the French of British models for example. This is partly why the CCP and the little pinks are so eager to pump out propaganda. They could all lose their heads. 600 million people is a large lynch mob.
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Reply #10 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:11pm
 
Do you think that a country, barely over 10 years old, and with 650 million people can organise a coup over a vast area of land to take down authorities allied to the communist government of China? And I am talking about being able to take out a government that has the military -- a battle-hardened military, at that anytime during or after the 1960s?

The calls for democratisation in China are taking shape as we speak. It is more likely that we will see a dissolution of China into smaller (yet very populous) countries that can be managed more easily. That will see the end of what is left of the CCP.
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