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Reply #150 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 7:08pm:

lee wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

Libs want less migrants, not more

There doesn't need to be "more", just better targeted. Roll Eyes

Cause there are so many nuclear physicists applying for residency Cheesy

We don't need nuclear physicists.

The invention and ability to upgrade nuclear technology has already been invented and proven.

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Reply #151 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 7:14pm:

lee wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 7:08pm:

Cause there are so many nuclear physicists applying for residency

Since there is an embargo on nuclear plants at the moment, why would you think there would be "so many nuclear physicists applying for residency "? Roll Eyes

I don't. And I don't think they're going to rush to come to Australia if the embargo is ever lifted. Certanly not in the numbers we will require. Not unless we pay them a fortune, which will blow any claims Mr potato Head makes about it being 'cheaper' obsolete.

I worked for a company once that had to get specialist project engineers
out from the UK and Europe - for multi $billion projects.

They had to pay for:
their whole family to come here, including transporting some family furniture,
free rent in a good house,
free company car,
free school fees for their kids to go to a private school which was not near where they lived,
free return tickets to Europe once per year for their whole family,
mega buck pay packets.

They wouldn't come here unless they got a package like that.
Even then one of the wives I spoke to complained that
her husband had dragged her to the ends of the earth. Grin

So what?

We pay billions to process and then subsidise illegal migrants.

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #152 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:11pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 9:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 9:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 9:28pm:

Australia screws up simple projects like the broadband fiasco.

The usual answer to problems in Australia is just to throw more money at them.

Look at Snowy 2.

$2 billion and now $12 billion. Grin

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-23/snowy-hydro-sinkhole-toxic-gas-tunnelling...

The pumped hydro project, trumpeted as a grand "nation-building" scheme, was first estimated to cost just $2 billion.
It's blown out to $12 billion.

It was expected to produce its first power next year — now, it won't be keeping any lights on for at least another four years.

Snowy Hydro has revealed to Four Corners as much as $2 billion of this blowout can be blamed on the stalled tunnel boring machine they call Florence.

Its 15km journey below Kosciuszko National Park should be well underway by now, but it's gone just 150m.

Insiders say warnings were ignored — Florence was doomed from the start.

They should have given the contract to the Chinese.

NO.

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #153 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:34pm

lee wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 3:15pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

The trends are published figures Lee. But it is nice of you, 10 pages in to a thread about the high price tag of nuclear, to finally bring yourself to discuss the high price tag for nuclear.

Yet you still haven't addressed Trillions for renewable and billions for nuclear.

It is another of your brain farts. Happy?

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And nowhere in your graphic does it mention storage, Strange that.

Yes Lee. As I pointed out, that information is provided elsewhere in the link. Glad to see you are slowly wrapping your head around the facts. If you keep going, it will start to seem les strange.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17669 Gender:	Re: high price tag for nuclear Reply #154 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:56pm freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:34pm: As I pointed out, that information is provided elsewhere in the link. And the link goes to the graphic only. So the only thing strange is apparent reticence in posting the required link.
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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #155 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:06pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 12:09am:

Why did you pretend anyone claimed the jobs would last forever? Why did you lie?

You mean like Labor promising good secure work, banning gig work and short term contracts?

https://www.alp.org.au/policies/secure-australian-jobs

Or the Greens promising to give more secure work, outlawing insecure work.

https://greens.org.au/platform/jobs

Or do you mean insecure work is not gig work or short term contracts IE Short Term as proposed by Labor. Wink

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #156 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:08pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 7:08pm:

lee wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

Libs want less migrants, not more

There doesn't need to be "more", just better targeted. Roll Eyes

Cause there are so many nuclear physicists applying for residency Cheesy

We don't need nuclear physicists.

The invention and ability to upgrade nuclear technology has already been invented and proven.

You want Homer Simpson perhaps?

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #157 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:09pm

lee wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 12:09am:

Why did you pretend anyone claimed the jobs would last forever? Why did you lie?

You mean like Labor promising good secure work, banning gig work and short term contracts?

https://www.alp.org.au/policies/secure-australian-jobs

Or the Greens promising to give more secure work, outlawing insecure work.

https://greens.org.au/platform/jobs

Or do you mean insecure work is not gig work or short term contracts IE Short Term as proposed by Labor. Wink

No where in any of that does it say that the jobs will last forever. Try again. Cheesy

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #158 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:10pm

lee wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:34pm:

As I pointed out, that information is provided elsewhere in the link.

And the link goes to the graphic only. Roll Eyes

So the only thing strange is apparent reticence in posting the required link. Wink

It's all in the OP Lee. It only seems strange because it took you a dozen pages to figure out what the topic is.

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #159 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:10pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

lee wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

You mean like FIFO's? DIDO's? (

we've had a a mining industry to train and draw experience from for centuries. We don't have anyone to draw personnel from in regards to nuclear

BS ...you're as thick as Booby.

What part is bs exactly? Apart from you pretending to have a clue that is.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74619 Gender:	Re: high price tag for nuclear Reply #160 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:16pm Quote: The invention and ability to upgrade nuclear technology has already been invented and proven Not the reactors Duttons talking about. Not that Australia has any workforce experienced even in the older technology
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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #161 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

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The invention and ability to upgrade nuclear technology has already been invented and proven

Not the reactors Duttons talking about. Not that Australia has any workforce experienced even in the older technology Cheesy

Building nuclear reactors is like nothing else we've ever done here in Australia -
we'll have to try and recruit 1000s of people with specialist skills from overseas.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17669 Gender:	Re: high price tag for nuclear Reply #162 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:15pm freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:10pm: It's all in the OP Lee. It wasn't in the link you provided.
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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #163 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:19pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

No where in any of that does it say that the jobs will last forever.

Ah, you do semantics. Wink

OK the renewable jobs are gig economy. Only available while the gig is ongoing. The very definition of short term. No job security, which is what Labor and Greens have promised. Capiche Guido? Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47198 Gender:	Re: high price tag for nuclear Reply #164 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:34pm Literature review of the cost of nuclear: https://inldigitallibrary.inl.gov/sites/sti/sti/Sort_66425.pdf
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