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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #210 - Jul 9th, 2024 at 7:01pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 5:58pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 5:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 8:36pm:
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No we're not you complete phukwit ... we're talking about not having people with the experience or expertise to build nuclear


I'm glad you finally figured it out.  Yes we're talking about nuclear.  An industry we have no experienced workforce for.

Now I'll ask again,  what about that exactly is bs. Afterall,  you were the dopey moron who said it was bs.


UAE had no experienced workforce for nuclear it took 7 years to build their first reactor just over 5 for the second.

UAE built their first concrete building in 1959


So baronvontwit, you agree that if the UAE,  an authoritarian state, couldn't get it done in 5 years, then Mr Potato head has absolutely no chance of getting anything built in 5 yrs and he's full of crap?

And the UAE spent $20B for 4 reactors, and they did not build the reactors Mr Potato head wants built Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



So phukking what? Totally irrelevant.

Just like you.
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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #211 - Jul 9th, 2024 at 8:05pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2024 at 7:01pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 5:58pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 5:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 8:36pm:
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No we're not you complete phukwit ... we're talking about not having people with the experience or expertise to build nuclear


I'm glad you finally figured it out.  Yes we're talking about nuclear.  An industry we have no experienced workforce for.

Now I'll ask again,  what about that exactly is bs. Afterall,  you were the dopey moron who said it was bs.


UAE had no experienced workforce for nuclear it took 7 years to build their first reactor just over 5 for the second.

UAE built their first concrete building in 1959


So baronvontwit, you agree that if the UAE,  an authoritarian state, couldn't get it done in 5 years, then Mr Potato head has absolutely no chance of getting anything built in 5 yrs and he's full of crap?

And the UAE spent $20B for 4 reactors, and they did not build the reactors Mr Potato head wants built Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



So phukking what? Totally irrelevant.

Just like you.


So what? So Mr potato Head,  like you is full of shit, that's so what.
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Reply #212 - Jul 9th, 2024 at 8:16pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 7:06am:
You're a moron. It was shown to you you're historically incorrect about new technology and our ability to get it built here.



No it wasn't. It wasn't my fault that you are to stupid to understand what you are saying.

Most of the imported workforce for the Snowy scheme was unskilled labour. poo kickers needed to do the heavy lifting. Same with the bridge. One or two architects or engineers to oversee a project is not 'importing a workforce. Nuclear is different. You can't have unskilled people working there. They have to be trained and they have to understand what they are doing as one wrong move can be catastrophic.


BS - the engineers & architects if imported like the shyte kickers are part of "the imported work force".

A nuclear site would not be dangerous to the point of an accident being catastrophic until the very final stages.

You're an alarmist softcock.

Everything about your moronic attitude & failure to comprehend the simplest of concepts is your fault.


Chernobyl is what happens when you have unskilled people looking after a nuclear reactor.  Staff in any reactor need to be highly trained. Not to sit there and stare at monitors, but to know exactly what they need to do if something goes wrong.  You might be happy with unskilled migrants working there but I'm betting none of the proposed sites are anywhere near you.
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Reply #213 - Jul 10th, 2024 at 6:40am
 
Lee, is this quote from you as idiotic as it seems? Do you stand by your claim that if the CCP stops subsidising EVs, it will push lithium prices up?

lee wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 7th, 2024 at 5:46pm:
If the CCP stops subsidising electric vehicles, we might not see high prices again for a decade.


If the CCP stops subsidising EV's (including Batteries), it will cause higher prices. It is the CCP that caused the lithium price to drop. Roll Eyes

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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #214 - Jul 10th, 2024 at 12:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2024 at 6:40am:
Lee, is this quote from you as idiotic as it seems?


No. What you have failed to address is the price inflexibility. How did you determine this with a cartel like infrastructure trying to control supply and trying to bend others to their will? Roll Eyes

So much for your economics knowledge.
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Reply #215 - Jul 11th, 2024 at 8:09am
 
So you stand by your claim that if the CCP stops subsidising EVs, it will push lithium prices up?
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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #216 - Jul 11th, 2024 at 11:07am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 9th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 8th, 2024 at 7:06am:
You're a moron. It was shown to you you're historically incorrect about new technology and our ability to get it built here.



No it wasn't. It wasn't my fault that you are to stupid to understand what you are saying.

Most of the imported workforce for the Snowy scheme was unskilled labour. poo kickers needed to do the heavy lifting. Same with the bridge. One or two architects or engineers to oversee a project is not 'importing a workforce. Nuclear is different. You can't have unskilled people working there. They have to be trained and they have to understand what they are doing as one wrong move can be catastrophic.


BS - the engineers & architects if imported like the shyte kickers are part of "the imported work force".

A nuclear site would not be dangerous to the point of an accident being catastrophic until the very final stages.

You're an alarmist softcock.

Everything about your moronic attitude & failure to comprehend the simplest of concepts is your fault.


Chernobyl is what happens when you have unskilled people looking after a nuclear reactor.  Staff in any reactor need to be highly trained. Not to sit there and stare at monitors, but to know exactly what they need to do if something goes wrong.  You might be happy with unskilled migrants working there but I'm betting none of the proposed sites are anywhere near you.


You know that they were unskilled how?

The highly trained staff are only required once the actual commissioning of the reactor starts.

Prior to that the construction doesn't require that sort of expertise.

I never said anything about having unskilled migrants working in those roles.

The subject at hand was about building a nuclear power station not running it.

And btw those people that sit and watch monitors in the present coal or gas fired power plants are called "Unit Controllers/Operators" and most come from a trade background and hold all tickets relevant e.g. steam boiler tickets so they know what to do in an emergency.

The nuclear energy in nuclear power station does the same as coal or gas ...... it heats water to make steam.

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Nuclear 101 - The water in the core is heated by nuclear fission and then pumped into tubes inside a heat exchanger. Those tubes heat a separate water source to create steam. The steam then turns an electric generator to produce electricity. The core water cycles back to the reactor to be reheated and the process is repeated.


We have plenty of people qualified to do that.

And I'm sure we can get or upskill people to be capable of monitoring the reactors.

So keep waffling BS - you nuclear troglodyte/luddite.
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Re: high price tag for nuclear
Reply #217 - Jul 11th, 2024 at 1:03pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2024 at 11:07am:
We have plenty of people qualified to do that.

And I'm sure we can get or upskill people to be capable of monitoring the reactors.

So keep waffling BS - you nuclear troglodyte/luddite.


Gnads and his ilk, under the management observance of housewives, could operate such a facility.

"It is just like a big tea kettle".

It is less scientific than bending a banana.
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