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Super scammers stole all his super.
Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:04pm
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-27/superannuation-scam-hostplus-fraud-afca-c...

Super scammers defrauded Lee of his retirement savings.
Industry experts are calling for better protections



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By national consumer affairs reporter Michael Atkin

updated 4h ago


He wanted to invest $10,000 first to see how it performed.

But scammers used the documents he'd provided to fraudulently take the lot.
One phone call could have stopped it
Lee was awarded 30 per cent of what he lost, about $54,000,
leaving him worse off after paying legal fees.



    In short:
Lee Braz's entire super, $180,000
,
was stolen by scammers who used fraudulent documents to trick his fund.
    He launched a four-year legal battle to get a refund from his super fund, but only got back a third, which didn't cover his legal fees.
    What's next? Industry experts want the federal government to urgently increase security obligations, such as multi-factor authentication and checks on who owns a bank account when rolling over a member's super.

Lee Braz was well into his 50s and knew he had to sort out his super.

Then he received a call from a Sydney company promising to help him do just that.

But the call was the start of a nightmare that would see Lee's entire super balance, about $180,000, stolen.

Before going ahead, Lee checked the company's website and saw it was properly registered in Australia.

In sales documents it claimed to have impressive returns using money from self-managed super funds to invest in tech and finance giants like Google and Visa.

Lee sent over his passport to open an account. He wanted to invest $10,000 first to see how it performed.

But scammers used the documents he'd provided to fraudulently take the lot.
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Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:17pm
 
The whole Australian compulsory superannuation scheme is a scam.

This poor bastard had only $180,000 after nearly a working lifetime of contributions.

Before the scammers got the residue, the salesmen and managers of the super fund got their cut.
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Reply #2 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:22pm
 
What the hell is going on?

So if a scammer has a copy of your passport details they can take all your super
and the super fund won't even phone you to check if that is really you?

My opinion:
He should have received all of his $180,000 back plus interest
plus legal costs plus a a substantial amount for the stress it caused.

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Reply #3 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:24pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:17pm:
The whole Australian compulsory superannuation scheme is a scam.

This poor bastard had only $180,000 after nearly a working lifetime of contributions.

Before the scammers got the residue, the salesmen and managers of the super fund got their cut.



The Govt got all the taxes that his payments generated too.
The courts and the lawyers didn't help him - they made money out of it.
It's a scandal.
It could happen to all of us.
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Reply #4 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:31pm
 
When you invest in something, you should check and recheck to see if the company is reliable. I made the mistake of putting $700 towards that Herbalife company. But it turned out to be a big pyramid scheme. The profits you get are little. But, at least the supervisor I had did give me my investment back.
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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 2:31pm:
When you invest in something, you should check and recheck to see if the company is reliable. I made the mistake of putting $700 towards that Herbalife company. But it turned out to be a big pyramid scheme. The profits you get are little. But, at least the supervisor I had did give me my investment back.



You were lucky to get even one penny back.

From the Marathon Man move:

Dr. Christian Szell -
Even after a lifetime of being taken by friends and enemies alike -
and then, just when you feel you have your possessions sure -
your health begins to fade -
that is of course the ultimate theft.

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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:49pm
 
The government is the biggest scammer of all. Taxpayers lose more than $1000 per person per year to the cost of administrating the superannuation scheme. "Industry Experts" are calling for more protection because they are the ones that end up with the money. You can now get budget self-managed super for just over $1000 per year in additional administration costs (compared to if you were managing the same amount of money outside of super). These "experts" don't want you to have the cheap option. They want endless paperwork and bureaucracy. They want the Australian public to waste billions on them so they can "save" us from scammers who take millions.
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Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 3:49pm:
The government is the biggest scammer of all. Taxpayers lose more than $1000 per person per year to the cost of administrating the superannuation scheme. "Industry Experts" are calling for more protection because they are the ones that end up with the money. You can now get budget self-managed super for just over $1000 per year in additional administration costs (compared to if you were managing the same amount of money outside of super). These "experts" don't want you to have the cheap option. They want endless paperwork and bureaucracy. They want the Australian public to waste billions on them so they can "save" us from scammers who take millions.



Don't scan your passport or allow it to be scanned -

scammers could steal ALL your super.




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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 4:57pm
 
But 30 billion a year is legally stolen in fees Sad
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:03pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
But 30 billion a year is legally stolen in fees Sad



yep - legalised scamming too.
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Reply #10 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:06pm
 
He got greedy, and that's what scammers rely on

Like many others who got stung, all he could see was a higher interest rate, nothing much else mattered



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Reply #11 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:09pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
But 30 billion a year is legally stolen in fees Sad



yep - legalised scamming too.


They make you fear your old age and retirement so they can profit from you by stealing from you so you will have less which is the very thing they make you fear Sad
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #12 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:51pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:09pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
But 30 billion a year is legally stolen in fees Sad



yep - legalised scamming too.


They make you fear your old age and retirement so they can profit from you
by stealing from you so you will have less which is the very thing they make you fear Sad



Wherever there's a big pot of money you
can be sure the Govt is there taking some of it.

On TV news tonight - probate fees going up for Wills.

https://vic.liberal.org.au/media-releases/2024-06-27-allan-labor-governments-sec...

Victorians are set to be taxed beyond the grave by the Allan Labor Government
with a new form of death duties to be imposed under the guise of massive increases to probate fees.

While probate fees were previously set at a flat rate and capped
for estates valued at $5 million or more at a fee of $2,318.90,
Victorian families will now have to pay a probate fee based
on a sliding scale up to $15,407.40; an increase of 564.4 per cent.



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Reply #13 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:54pm
 
Lee never struck me as being the sharpest tool in the shed Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 6:08pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2024 at 5:54pm:
Lee never struck me as being the sharpest tool in the shed Roll Eyes



Lee hasn't posted on this thread.   Undecided
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