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It’s either too much too soon, as in the Indigenous voice to parliament referendum, or too little too late, suspending Western Australian senator Fatima Payman from the Labor caucus indefinitely for defiantly declaring she would continue to defy the PM, government policy and her Labor colleagues.

What should have been a straightforward punishment last week for “ratting” on a Labor vote – a serious suspension at least, and possibly expulsion, given the gravity of the social division exemplified by the anti-Israel motion – was virtually a free pass and a smack in the face for so many Labor MPs and senators.

There was deep resentment within Labor ranks among those with a memory of tough punishments meted out for similar crimes over more than a century.


Lb]abor’s most junior senator sensed the weakness in her leader last week and pushed her personal pro-Greens, Palestine-only cause to the utmost in crossing the floor to vote against Labor policy and her Labor colleagues.

As a young, female Afghani migrant, Muslim and union-backed senator elected with less than 2000 primary votes in 2022, Payman first tested the waters by speaking in support of pro-Palestinian protesters; when nothing happened, she crossed the floor to support a Greens motion only identifying Palestine’s existence.

After initially indicating he would do nothing to Payman for breaking a 130-year-old Labor tradition and “ratting” on Labor in a vote, a view backed by Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles, who excused the action as a “special issue”, Albanese got out the wet lettuce and got her to agree not to attend one parliamentary ALP caucus meeting.

That taught her a lesson. Not.

Albanese’s history as a factional bully boy expelling ALP members over trivial votes at local councils stood in stark contrast to his inability to do more than recuse a junior senator from one partyroom meeting for further dividing Labor on one of the great social issues it faces. The result is now a full-blown crisis in the Senate, a potential union war in WA and yet another cultural and political distraction from what should be Labor’s core task – easing the cost of living.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/anthony-albanese-doesnt-know-ho...



Fatima Taqiyyaman is in the Senate to represent the state of WA, not the non-existent state of Palestine. But her allegiance is to Islam and Hamas, not the infidel sandgropers. Tsk, tsk 

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 10:38am:



Gnads,

Consider.....
Do you believe that Fatima Payman is wrong and mistaken, in her ways, in her worldview ?

If the answer is yes,
....Don't you also believe that   >> your God <<   is correct,   ......in all of His ways ?

[i suppose you could be, one of those atheistic jews.]



Job 34:21
For his eyes are upon the ways of man, and he seeth all his goings.
22  There is no darkness, nor shadow of death, where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves.


Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.


Psalms 14:2
The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.


Proverbs 5:21
For the ways of man are before the eyes of the LORD, and he pondereth all his goings.
22  His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins.
23  He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.


Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

Not so ?


Jeremiah 16:17
For mine eyes are upon all their ways: they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes.


Jeremiah 32:19
....thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men: to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings:


Gnads,

Don't complain to me about Fatima Payman.

Shouldn't we wait on our God ?

A God of truth.

If we see wickedness, and evil,    ....shouldn't we pray ?

Ask Him, for deliverance ?


Gnads,

Tell Him how virtuous you are, in loving Him,
and in obeying His covenant commandments.


Deuteronomy 5:10
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.


Deuteronomy 7:9
Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
10  And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.


Deuteronomy 7:12
Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:


1 Kings 8:23
And he said, LORD God of Israel, there is no God like thee, in heaven above, or on earth beneath, who keepest covenant and mercy with thy servants that walk before thee with all their heart:


Nehemiah 1:5
And said, I beseech thee, O LORD God of heaven, the great and terrible God, that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that love him and observe his commandments:


Psalms 25:10
All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.


Gnads,

Tell the God of Israel, how much you love Him.

Tell Him how much you love    .......His righteousness.

Tell Him how much you love His righteous commandments.



Why not ?

I don't know, if you are a member of the 'covenant' people.

But what have you got to lose ?



1 John 5:2
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


Matthew 19:17
[Jesus said].....if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which?
Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Q.
If we believe, that we do no harm,     .....why do we choose to turn away ?

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 7:33pm:



Allahu Akhbar, insh'allah.

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 7:33pm:

"Fatima Payman is a good moslem"

The bottom line for me, is that Fatima Payman is an individual who has clearly drunk the ISLAMIC kool aid.

The way Fatima Payman dresses in public, 'speaks' unambiguously, to her full embrace of ISLAM and its religious values, and her embrace of ISLAMIC law.

To merely set your eyes upon her [her appearance in public], it is difficult NOT to conclude, that Fatima Payman has embraced all of the unbending religious doctrines of ISLAM.

Religious doctrines which promote the achievement of an ISLAMIC supremacism,
......[it can easily be proven] through the use of rape, murder, tyranny, oppression, and human poverty.


The truth is that ISLAM [as a philosophy] produces,
oppression,
corruption,
and dead bodies.

Proof ???

Look at any ISLAMIC law jurisdiction in this world.

Those ISLAMIC law societies are ALL, nests of oppression, corruption and human poverty.
[....and yes, we will witness, that a number of those regimes, also have control of large oil reserves.
which means that with the vast wealth from those reserves, those regimes are able to 'fabricate' an outward appearance of [internal] prosperity, civility and order.]



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1718444378/12#12
Quote:

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 7:33pm:


More fool you.

Her parroting "from the river to the sea", is an anti-semitic slogan .... the sharp rise in anti-semitism in this country has been encouraged by her.

The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas and they along with other terror Islamic groups & countries want the Israeli state and it's Jewish people driven into the sea. 

Her support for the so called 2 state solution is misguided because in reality that's not what the Islamists want.

Her increased support for Palestine since the Oct 7 attacks by Hamas is foolish & telling of her memory loss as to how & why she and her family now live in Australia.

Fleeing the strife torn Islamic hell hole of Afghanistan run by the Taliban she is now endorsing a similar styled regime to run a new state called Palestine. Oh the irony.


If she doesn't want to be a team player with an obvious left leaning govt & remain openly defiant of their rules regarding party unity then she should resign and join the looney Greens or resign and rerun as an Independent.

So far the ALPs sanctioning of her even though pressured) has been the only sensible decision Labor has made since Albanese took the helm.

Of course now she's in the media playing the emotional blackmail card saying she's been "exiled" and intimidated/bullied by her own party. 

She needs to take responsibility for the outcomes of her decisions .... not blame others.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2024 at 8:38pm:


The conviction to encourage anti-semitism by repeating terrorist slogans in this country?

It has no place here -from Politicians, protesters on our streets or in our Universities.

It’s interesting to learn that labor enforce its members to vote as directed.
Hardly seems very democratic?