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Reply #15 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 11:23am
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 11:07am:
It’s interesting to learn that labor enforce its members to vote as directed.
Hardly seems very democratic?




Unfortunately, a lot of what they do is not democratic.

I've seen what goes on in their branch meetings, and it's very dodgy.

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Reply #16 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 12:13pm
 
Leninist 'Democratic centralism'.

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Reply #17 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 12:22pm
 
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE LABOR'S ABILITY TO SELF-DESTRUCT.
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Reply #18 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 5:46pm
 
1681 votes to get elected

There is talk she might join the Greens who are also Pro Hamas
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Reply #19 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 5:49pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 5:46pm:
1681 votes to get elected

There is talk she might join the Greens who are also Pro Hamas



A muslim Lividia Thirpe.

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Reply #20 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 1:06pm
 
Here's a good take on the Fatima Payman issue.

Courier Mail today
By Joe Hildebrand

Quote:
ALBO NOW MUST SACK PAYMAN
JOE HILDEBRAND

Last week, Fatima Payman was a Labor pariah.

This week that has changed.

She is now both a traitor and a saboteur.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
needs to sack her and sack her now.

The first year Western Australian senator’s foolish decision to cross the floor to support a pointless Greens motion on Palestine was both stupid and self-indulgent.

The Prime Minister was typically merciful in merely suspending Senator Payman from caucus for a week.

Her embarrassingly self-entitled declaration on the ABC’s Insiders that she would do it all again was, by contrast, not just idiotic but aggressive.

The Prime Minister was yet again merciful in merely suspending her from caucus indefinitely.

But her bleating heart lament that she has been exiled and victimised
and the suggestion she could abandon the party that is the only reason she
even exists in public life
– goes far beyond the realm of any human decency or functioning intelligence.

What kind of outrageously naive narcissist could possibly lap up a senate seat for a major party in their 20s only to betray the party that gave her that extraordinary privilege?

And what genuinely deranged mind could, after contributing nothing to the caucus and refusing to abide by even its most basic rules, nonetheless declare that they are somehow the oppressed victim in all of this?

Some say it’s a Muslim thing.

I suspect it’s a millennial thing.

Either way, Payman is more cooked than a thanksgiving turkey.

The problem is it is also embarrassing for the Prime Minister, of whom she has been disgracefully disrespectful.

Yes, every Australian has a right to slag off Labor leaders as much as they want.

But when you’re an actual Labor member of the Australian parliament not so much. Who knew?

Thus Payman will never be preselected again. But that only brings with it
another injustice.

It means she has four years left as a sitting senator to dump on the ALP and cultivate her own cult of personality.

Now it all boils down to the ultimate teen dilemma of who dumps who first.

If Labor doesn’t dump Payman then she will surely dump Labor.

It is only a matter of who emerges with any remaining pride.

This is what happens when the Left get their gum in the gears.

Albo has already been strong in standing up to the Left that both made him and which he made.

This is another litmus test.

She must go and must go now.
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Reply #21 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:26pm
 
She's too young to know any better ... and she's muslim ... her only interests derive from Islam. As she gets older, she'll realize a few things, that young Islamic blokes go around stabbing innocent people, one in a church some months ago, one in a park, one at the University of Sydney just the other day, not to mention past murders in the streets by brainless muslims

Muslims have no credibility, someone pointed out that an Islamic College in Perth defrauded the Govt of millions of dollars, and got caught. Islam is for Islam, it's not for Australia. We need to be cautious and wary of muslims and keep them in their place, otherwise  they'll drag us down to their lower level




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Reply #22 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 5:46pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:26pm:
[size=12]She's too young to know any better ... and she's muslim ... her only interests derive from Islam. As she gets older, she'll realize a few things, that young Islamic blokes go around stabbing innocent people, one in a church some months ago, one in a park, one at the University of Sydney just the other day, not to mention past murders in the streets by brainless muslims

Muslims have no credibility, someone pointed out that an Islamic College in Perth defrauded the Govt of millions of dollars, and got caught. Islam is for Islam, it's not for Australia. We need to be cautious and wary of muslims and keep them in their place, otherwise  they'll drag us down to their lower





Realise thisngs as she gets older - like the Bint Faruqi?
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Reply #23 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 6:20pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:26pm:

She's too young to know any better ... and she's muslim
... her only interests derive from Islam.
As she gets older, she'll realize a few things,
that young Islamic blokes go around stabbing innocent people,
one in a church some months ago,
one in a park,
one at the University of Sydney just the other day,
not to mention past murders in the streets by brainless muslims

Muslims have no credibility,

someone pointed out that an Islamic College in Perth defrauded the Govt of millions of dollars,

and got caught.

Islam is for Islam,

it's not for Australia.

We need to be cautious and wary of muslims and keep them in their place, otherwise  they'll drag us down to their lower level





HAVE YOU NOTICED ??

HAVE YOU NOTICED ??

HAVE YOU NOTICED ??

Q.

Have you ever witnessed,
....a follower of ISLAM in Australia, criticise >> another follower of ISLAM << ???

No, you have not !



[ISLAMIC religious doctrine.....]
A follower of ISLAM will never criticise the 'bad action' of >> another follower of ISLAM <<,
1/ even if he/she is a convicted embezzler [living in Australia],  e.g. in OP
2/ even if he/she is a murderous terrorist [in a foreign land],
3/ even if he/she is a murderer [or, a failed wanna-be-murderer for Allah, living in Australia].

[n.b.  often, the local moslem community >> will disclaim any association << with the actions of such individuals [miscreants above]]

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DISTINCTION......
Every follower of ISLAM, in the world, is member of >> the nation of ISLAM <<.

The ummah, is, the worldwide nation of ISLAM.

Dictionary definition;
umma = = the whole community of Muslims bound together by ties of religion.



A follower of ISLAM is not an Australian,
a follower of ISLAM is not an Australian,
a follower of ISLAM is not an Australian, [i.e. he totally rejects, THE AUTHORITY of Australian law].

And despite >> a follower of ISLAM << having spoken any oath of allegiance to Australia [in order to claim citizenship],
he/she has no allegiance to Australia or any allegiance our Australian values,
or to Australian law.
**

The allegiance of the follower of ISLAM, is for ISLAMIC law alone.


The religious doctrine of ISLAM.......
The communal love of the moslem, is for his fellow believers, alone.

.

**
"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. ***Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

***
The religious doctrine of ISLAM.......
Anyone who aligns himself [sincerely] with any disbeliever, is an evil person [i.e. worthy of death, at the hand of a good moslem !].


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Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior


January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong



"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."


Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...


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ABC social engineering....


Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2
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MY ARGUMENT;
1/ Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must fight and kill people, who reject ISLAM, and reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law.

And, a new attack is going to occur whenever      any individual moslem [living among us, in Australia] decides that 'now' is a good moment for him to prove his devotion to ISLAM and to Allah.





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Reply #24 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 6:56pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:26pm:
She's too young to know any better ... and she's muslim ... her only interests derive from Islam. As she gets older, she'll realize a few things, that young Islamic blokes go around stabbing innocent people, one in a church some months ago, one in a park, one at the University of Sydney just the other day, not to mention past murders in the streets by brainless muslims

Muslims have no credibility, someone pointed out that an Islamic College in Perth defrauded the Govt of millions of dollars, and got caught. Islam is for Islam, it's not for Australia. We need to be cautious and wary of muslims and keep them in their place, otherwise  they'll drag us down to their lower level







Good grief she's 29 years old. WTF are you talking about "too young to know any better"?

She's old enough to have children the same age as she was when she came here.

She was 8 years old when she arrived here.

She is as has been pointed out a person with a short memory of why she is here & not in Afghanistan and very much with the entitled attitude of a millennial.

She has taken her position of privilege for granted  to push her own personal barrow and she should resign from politics altogether.
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Reply #25 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 8:22pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 6:56pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 3:26pm:
She's too young to know any better ... and she's muslim ... her only interests derive from Islam. As she gets older, she'll realize a few things, that young Islamic blokes go around stabbing innocent people, one in a church some months ago, one in a park, one at the University of Sydney just the other day, not to mention past murders in the streets by brainless muslims

Muslims have no credibility, someone pointed out that an Islamic College in Perth defrauded the Govt of millions of dollars, and got caught. Islam is for Islam, it's not for Australia. We need to be cautious and wary of muslims and keep them in their place, otherwise  they'll drag us down to their lower level







Good grief she's 29 years old. WTF are you talking about "too young to know any better"?

She's old enough to have children the same age as she was when she came here.

She was 8 years old when she arrived here.

She is as has been pointed out a person with a short memory of why she is here & not in Afghanistan and very much with the entitled attitude of a millennial.

She has taken her position of privilege for granted  to push her own personal barrow and she should resign from politics altogether.



Gerls... Young and naive....


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Reply #26 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 8:55pm
 
Good on the ALP. If the Palestinians want a state, why don't they just set one up instead of devoting all their energy to killing each other and slaughtering Jews? Western nations set up just about every other nation in the middle east. Perhaps they never learned how to do it, other than ISIS style.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/payman-furore-to-come-to-a-head-as-albanese-suggests-exit-20240703-p5jqob.html

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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has all but confirmed rogue Labor senator Fatima Payman will leave the party this week, comparing her actions to those of Senator Lidia Thorpe, who left the Greens to campaign against the Voice to parliament.

The crisis for Labor began last week when Payman, the first MP to wear a hijab in parliament, crossed the floor of the Senate to vote with the Greens on a motion backing Palestinian statehood, against the rules of the Labor caucus.
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Reply #27 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 9:02pm
 
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‘I want to normalise hijab wearing’: WA’s newest Labor senator on making history


When Fatima Payman takes her seat in the Senate in July, she will make history as the first woman to wear a hijab in Australia’s parliament.

The 27-year-old Muslim Australian, confirmed as Labor’s newest senator from Western Australia on Monday, says she will wear it with pride.

“I want to normalise hijab wearing,” Payman tells Guardian Australia.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jun/21/i-want-to-normalise-hijab-wearing-was-newest-labor-senator-on-making-history



I prefer Marine Le Pens attitude towards hijab.

Did she tell a muslim to GFY she isn't wearing it?

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Reply #28 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 10:01pm
 
You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women.  I really do.  You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Jul 3rd, 2024 at 10:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:
You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women.  I really do.  You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I do talk to muslims

Allah has a word for moderate muslims he calls them hypocrites.
Quote:
O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

https://legacy.quran.com/9/73


Who are the hyppcrites in the Quran Bwhine?  Roll Eyes
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