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Reply #285 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:35pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 17th, 2024 at 10:29am:
The levels of hysteria based on sheer ignorance and xenophobia represented on this forum never cease to amaze me. I encounter nothing like it in my day to day life.

Do you lt openly express your ignorant bigotry in your day to day lives? Or do you keep it all wrapped up in a little toxic ball within you?

Join clubs maybe?

Join Ozpol?



STFU ..that's all you've got ad infinitum.
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Reply #286 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:46pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 4:39pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 3:41pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 3:20pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:55am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 2:27pm:
Rape and pillage is not a "fundamentalist" interpretation of Islam. It is the mainstream interpretation of Islam, because that is what Muhammad did. He used the religion to justify warmongering and sexual slavery.

 
See Aquarius' post #237, for the correct narrative re 'violence against infidels'.



Yeah - but it's like Muslim native title ... it's all open to interpretation,


The point is Payman is not into "rape and pillage" - as blindly asserted by FD (who says Muslims rape and pillage Jews as a matter of course, nothing to do with a fundamentalist reading of the Koran). 

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Why does Israel have such a problem with them? 


Because the UN stuffed-up its recognition of Israel, without recognizing Palestine at the same time, as per the UN's own resolution 181, in 1947.


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Would that such integrity were still the norm in this day and age..... look at what we've got to offer ..... Jesus wept....


Note that the US and Canada refused entry for a ship carrying Jewish refugees from Germany, in 1938.

Now the US is oppressing Palestinians by refusing to recognize Palestine, and end the illegal Israeli occupation  of the WB.

As for your 'native title' obsession, I explained the error which blind, unreasoning  attachment to individual cultures leads to - which you brushed aside as 'political rhetoric', thereby confirming your mental incompetence. 

If the UN voted to partition Muslim land to create a Jewish state, justice demands it should also have  created the other state (in the Partition)  for Muslims.



So supporting those who are into rape and pillage is not being into rape and pillage yourself..... a fine line...


Oh.. graps - I will persist with exposing your errors despite your mental incomptence:

So:  extremists (fundamentalists) who rape and pillage, believing they are defending the One True God by driving Jews out of Muslim Palestine;  versus myself who is not into rape and  pillage - where is the "fine line"?

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It wasn't Muslim land other than by invasion...


In the 7th century, when the locals suffering under oppressive Byzantine sovereignty welcomed the Muslims Arabs.

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Independent Gaza is just the worst example of what they've done to themselves...


After the stuffed-up UN recognition of Israel in 1947; Gaza should have been/was intended to be  part of the Palestinian state. 

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If Payman doesn't like it - there's the door.... she's had her chance and by the same behaviour, has blown it for herself and all the others now.


Payman and 150 member nations of the UN recognize Palestine; Oz and the US don't.

Why not? 


Grin Yeah ... & how many of them are undemocratic Muslim States?

The UN is stacked with them. Anti Israel & Jews.

The Israelis have every right to be where they are.
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Reply #287 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:49pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 21st, 2024 at 12:15pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2024 at 11:52am:
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You ignored the fact: Jews in Palestina welcomed Arabs


That's not a fact. It is propaganda.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(636%E2%80%93637)

Depending on the sources, in either 637 or in 638, Jerusalem was officially surrendered to the caliph.[24]

For the Jewish community this marked the end of nearly 500 years of Roman rule and oppression. Umar permitted the Jews to once again reside within the city of Jerusalem itself.


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You have seen what the Jews in Palestine really think of Muslim rule.


You are confused as usual; Jews jumped at the UN partition plans in 1947, of course - just as they welcomed the end of Christian Byzantine rule in 637/8,  as noted above. 

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What we do know for a fact is that Muhammad slaughtered Jews as soon as he had enough power to do so, and put plenty of anti Jewish propaganda in the Quran to justify it.


Only those Jews who rejected Islam....


You do realise how stupid that statement is?

It also proves FD point about Muslims slaughtering Jews.
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Reply #288 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:52pm
 
Aquarius wrote on Jul 22nd, 2024 at 3:46pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2024 at 8:01pm:
Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi has threatened to sue The Australian for defamation and demanded an apology over a Johannes Leak cartoon that portrayed her wearing a Hamas headband and whitewashing a wall bearing the words ‘October 7’, claiming the depiction was “racist” and would cost her votes at the next election.

The Australian has told Senator Faruqi it will not accede to any of her “grossly hypocritical” demands, and that the cartoon – which it argues is clearly protected by truth and honest opinion defences – will remain online.


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Absolutely - and it proved deadly in France.  Mussos don't muck around, they'll kill you if you say the wrong thing and mock the Prophet. 

Whereas here in Sydney they just went on their usual rampage pouring into the city on masse and taking over the Pitt Street Mall in a horrifyingly violent display of musso aggression, intolerance and hatred. My younger son got his first up close and personal encounter with the rioting mussos when police herded them towards Hyde Park. Unlike his older brother who as a TAG officer was seconded to the Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad and was well acquainted with the musso criminal community, he was new to policing and didn't come across mussos in his "white flight" LAC.

What shocked him most was a muslim mother who gave her toddler a sign to hold up - Behead all those who insult the Prophet!  They're more careful these days what they say in public .... but down in the mosques it's an entirely different matter. 

Johannes Leake is my favourite cartoonist but it looks like mussos such as Mehreen Faruqui believe they are above being satirised.  They cannot take criticism in any way or form - the Australian referred to her as glass jawed. She has an agenda, just like Fatima Payman, and that is to stifle any criticism of Islam by crying racism and Islamophobia whenever anyone points out the intolerance and violent behaviour of muslims and their refusal to assimilate into the wider community. 


Yeah she has a few disciples here doing the same thing.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #289 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 3:49pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 22nd, 2024 at 5:17pm:
Israel has repeatedly offered a Two State Solution...


No it hasn't: eg, since 1967 it has refused to cede sovereignty of East Jerusalem.

And:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/18/israels-knesset-votes-to-reject-palesti...

The Oslo Accords, which were first signed between Palestinian and Israeli leaders in 1993, called for a viable and sovereign Palestinian state living side by side with an Israeli state.

But Israel has continued to adopt policies such as building illegal settlements on Palestinian lands across the occupied West Bank and a complete blockade of Gaza.




Which all goes to show Israel should never have been recognized without simultaneous recognition of Palestine as per the Partition  Plan, with securiy guaranteed by the UNSC.

(In other words, Israel should NEVER have been recognized by the UN , because the UNSC with its veto couldn't guarantee security in the two states).   
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Reply #290 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 22nd, 2024 at 6:08pm:
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I'm pretty certain she doesn't want to kill anyone for their beliefs


So what do you think she meant by what she said?


She, like me - and 3/4 of the UN member states -  wants recognition of Palestine NOW, and the illegal settler "Promised Land" ideologues bulldozed out of the WB NOW. 

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Have you ever heard her reject those parts of the Quran and Hadiths that call for people to be killed for their beliefs? Have you ever seen her reject Muhammad's killing of people for not converting to Islam?


Get back to me when Palestine is recognized and the murderous illegal settlers are gone, and the UNSC has outlawed Hamas.

I'll question her then about "Muhammad's killing people for not converting to Islam".   


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Reply #291 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:09pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:46pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 4:39pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 3:41pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 3:20pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:55am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 2:27pm:
Rape and pillage is not a "fundamentalist" interpretation of Islam. It is the mainstream interpretation of Islam, because that is what Muhammad did. He used the religion to justify warmongering and sexual slavery.

 
See Aquarius' post #237, for the correct narrative re 'violence against infidels'.



Yeah - but it's like Muslim native title ... it's all open to interpretation,


The point is Payman is not into "rape and pillage" - as blindly asserted by FD (who says Muslims rape and pillage Jews as a matter of course, nothing to do with a fundamentalist reading of the Koran). 

Quote:
Why does Israel have such a problem with them? 


Because the UN stuffed-up its recognition of Israel, without recognizing Palestine at the same time, as per the UN's own resolution 181, in 1947.


Quote:
Would that such integrity were still the norm in this day and age..... look at what we've got to offer ..... Jesus wept....


Note that the US and Canada refused entry for a ship carrying Jewish refugees from Germany, in 1938.

Now the US is oppressing Palestinians by refusing to recognize Palestine, and end the illegal Israeli occupation  of the WB.

As for your 'native title' obsession, I explained the error which blind, unreasoning  attachment to individual cultures leads to - which you brushed aside as 'political rhetoric', thereby confirming your mental incompetence. 

If the UN voted to partition Muslim land to create a Jewish state, justice demands it should also have  created the other state (in the Partition)  for Muslims.



So supporting those who are into rape and pillage is not being into rape and pillage yourself..... a fine line...


Oh.. graps - I will persist with exposing your errors despite your mental incomptence:

So:  extremists (fundamentalists) who rape and pillage, believing they are defending the One True God by driving Jews out of Muslim Palestine;  versus myself who is not into rape and  pillage - where is the "fine line"?

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It wasn't Muslim land other than by invasion...


In the 7th century, when the locals suffering under oppressive Byzantine sovereignty welcomed the Muslims Arabs.

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Independent Gaza is just the worst example of what they've done to themselves...


After the stuffed-up UN recognition of Israel in 1947; Gaza should have been/was intended to be  part of the Palestinian state. 

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If Payman doesn't like it - there's the door.... she's had her chance and by the same behaviour, has blown it for herself and all the others now.


Payman and 150 member nations of the UN recognize Palestine; Oz and the US don't.

Why not? 


Grin Yeah ... & how many of them are undemocratic Muslim States?

The UN is stacked with them. Anti Israel & Jews.


Plus Norway, Spain and Ireland...

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The Israelis have every right to be where they are.


No they don't,  Israel only has a "Right" to exist alongside  a Palestinian state, as per the UN Partition Plan.
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Reply #292 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:14pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:49pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 21st, 2024 at 12:15pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2024 at 11:52am:
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You ignored the fact: Jews in Palestina welcomed Arabs


That's not a fact. It is propaganda.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(636%E2%80%93637)

Depending on the sources, in either 637 or in 638, Jerusalem was officially surrendered to the caliph.[24]

For the Jewish community this marked the end of nearly 500 years of Roman rule and oppression. Umar permitted the Jews to once again reside within the city of Jerusalem itself.


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You have seen what the Jews in Palestine really think of Muslim rule.


You are confused as usual; Jews jumped at the UN partition plans in 1947, of course - just as they welcomed the end of Christian Byzantine rule in 637/8,  as noted above. 

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What we do know for a fact is that Muhammad slaughtered Jews as soon as he had enough power to do so, and put plenty of anti Jewish propaganda in the Quran to justify it.


Only those Jews who rejected Islam....


You do realise how stupid that statement is?

It also proves FD point about Muslims slaughtering Jews.


Your low IQ again: most religions including the Jewish Bible  and the Koran demand fealty to their revealed 'god'.   
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Reply #293 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:20pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:09pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 1:46pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 4:39pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 3:41pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 19th, 2024 at 3:20pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:55am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 2:48pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 2:27pm:
Rape and pillage is not a "fundamentalist" interpretation of Islam. It is the mainstream interpretation of Islam, because that is what Muhammad did. He used the religion to justify warmongering and sexual slavery.

 
See Aquarius' post #237, for the correct narrative re 'violence against infidels'.



Yeah - but it's like Muslim native title ... it's all open to interpretation,


The point is Payman is not into "rape and pillage" - as blindly asserted by FD (who says Muslims rape and pillage Jews as a matter of course, nothing to do with a fundamentalist reading of the Koran). 

Quote:
Why does Israel have such a problem with them? 


Because the UN stuffed-up its recognition of Israel, without recognizing Palestine at the same time, as per the UN's own resolution 181, in 1947.


Quote:
Would that such integrity were still the norm in this day and age..... look at what we've got to offer ..... Jesus wept....


Note that the US and Canada refused entry for a ship carrying Jewish refugees from Germany, in 1938.

Now the US is oppressing Palestinians by refusing to recognize Palestine, and end the illegal Israeli occupation  of the WB.

As for your 'native title' obsession, I explained the error which blind, unreasoning  attachment to individual cultures leads to - which you brushed aside as 'political rhetoric', thereby confirming your mental incompetence. 

If the UN voted to partition Muslim land to create a Jewish state, justice demands it should also have  created the other state (in the Partition)  for Muslims.



So supporting those who are into rape and pillage is not being into rape and pillage yourself..... a fine line...


Oh.. graps - I will persist with exposing your errors despite your mental incomptence:

So:  extremists (fundamentalists) who rape and pillage, believing they are defending the One True God by driving Jews out of Muslim Palestine;  versus myself who is not into rape and  pillage - where is the "fine line"?

Quote:
It wasn't Muslim land other than by invasion...


In the 7th century, when the locals suffering under oppressive Byzantine sovereignty welcomed the Muslims Arabs.

Quote:
Independent Gaza is just the worst example of what they've done to themselves...


After the stuffed-up UN recognition of Israel in 1947; Gaza should have been/was intended to be  part of the Palestinian state. 

Quote:
If Payman doesn't like it - there's the door.... she's had her chance and by the same behaviour, has blown it for herself and all the others now.


Payman and 150 member nations of the UN recognize Palestine; Oz and the US don't.

Why not? 


Grin Yeah ... & how many of them are undemocratic Muslim States?

The UN is stacked with them. Anti Israel & Jews.


Plus Norway, Spain and Ireland...

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The Israelis have every right to be where they are.


No they don't,  Israel only has a "Right" to exist alongside  a Palestinian state, as per the UN Partition Plan.



So why didn't the Palestinians declare a state in 1948, like the Jews did, as per the UN partition plan??

Do explain.

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Reply #295 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 5:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:20pm:
So why didn't the Palestinians declare a state in 1948, like the Jews did, as per the UN partition plan??

Do explain.



Jordan took over the West Bank in 1948
Egypt took Gaza in 1948

The Palestinians didn't have any problems with that
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Reply #296 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 5:41pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 5:26pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:20pm:
So why didn't the Palestinians declare a state in 1948, like the Jews did, as per the UN partition plan??

Do explain.



Jordan took over the West Bank in 1948
Egypt took Gaza in 1948

The Palestinians didn't have any problems with that

During the December 1948 Jericho Conference, hundreds of Palestinian notables in the West Bank gathered, accepted Jordanian rule and recognized Abdullah as ruler. The West Bank was formally annexed on 24 April 1950, but the annexation was widely considered as illegal and void by most of the international community, including the Arab League, which ultimately decided to treat Jordan as a temporary trustee pending future settlement.[6][7][8] Recognition of Jordan's declaration of annexation was granted only by the United Kingdom, Iraq, and possibly Pakistan.[6][9][10] The United States while avoiding public approval, also recognized this extension of Jordanian sovereignty.[11][12][13]

When Jordan transferred its full citizenship rights to the residents of the West Bank, the annexation more than tripled the population of Jordan, going from 400,000 to 1,300,000.[4][14] The naturalized Palestinians were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament.
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The 1949 Armistice Agreements, which ended the 1948 Arab–Israeli War by delineating the Green Line as the legal boundary between Israel and the Arab countries, left the Kingdom of Egypt in control of a small swath of territory that it had captured and occupied in the former British Mandate for Palestine: the Gaza Strip. This period saw the creation of the All-Palestine Government within the All-Palestine Protectorate, an Egyptian client state that lasted until 1959, a year after the Republic of Egypt and the Second Syrian Republic merged to form a single sovereign state known as the United Arab Republic. The Egyptian occupation of the Gaza Strip was briefly subsumed by Israel during the 1956 Suez Crisis and ended entirely during the 1967 Arab–Israeli War, after which the territory became occupied by Israel with the establishment of the Israeli Military Governorate.

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Reply #297 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 7:14pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 23rd, 2024 at 4:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 22nd, 2024 at 6:08pm:
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I'm pretty certain she doesn't want to kill anyone for their beliefs


So what do you think she meant by what she said?


She, like me - and 3/4 of the UN member states -  wants recognition of Palestine NOW, and the illegal settler "Promised Land" ideologues bulldozed out of the WB NOW. 


How do you actually know what she wants? Because the CCP told you? Who is feeding you these lines to parrot?

And why do you keep avoiding the question?
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Reply #298 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 9:21pm
 
Strong signal: 500 patriots successfully march through Vienna for remigration



Re-, re-, remigration!" rang out from hundreds of throats in Vienna's city center yesterday. Almost 500 identitarian activists and patriots from all over Europe took part in the annual remigration demo. Attempts to block the demonstration by left-wing extremist counter-demonstrators failed miserably.
Just like last year, on July 20, almost 500 identitarians and patriots from Austria, Germany, France, Portugal, the Netherlands, Italy and so on marched through the streets of Vienna. The demonstrators' aim: to fight against population exchange and demand a policy of remigration.
https://heimatkurier.at/aktivismus/starkes-zeichen-500-patrioten-ziehen-erfolgre
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Radical preachers and extremist organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir have attacked Australia’s democracy and The Muslim Vote campaign, calling it a “shirk” and an insult to Allah, at sermons in southwest Sydney, the geographical heart of a community-led Muslim political movement.

Abu Ousayd, also known as Wissam Haddad, and Hizb ut-Tahrir’s Australian branch took to pulpits in Sydney’s Canterbury-Bankstown area on Friday to call Muslims in parliament “apostates” and order their followers to boycott elections.

They also criticised the Muslim Vote’s leadership for its historical deradicalisation efforts and current political participation, with Mr Ousayd signalling he wanted an ­alternative route to power where Muslims could make sharia the dominant form of law in Australia.

“The system is always going to fail if it is not Allah’s,” Mr Ousayd said.  “We want to get to a position where Muslims have power (so that) we can implement more of the (way) in sharia.”

Radical preachers and extremist organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir have attacked Australia’s democracy and The Muslim Vote campaign, calling it a “shirk” and an insult to Allah, at sermons in southwest Sydney, the geographical heart of a community-led Muslim political movement.

Abu Ousayd, also known as Wissam Haddad, and Hizb ut-Tahrir’s Australian branch took to pulpits in Sydney’s Canterbury-Bankstown area on Friday to call Muslims in parliament “apostates” and order their followers to boycott elections.

They also criticised the Muslim Vote’s leadership for its historical deradicalisation efforts and current political participation, with Mr Ousayd signalling he wanted an ­alternative route to power where Muslims could make sharia the dominant form of law in Australia.

“The system is always going to fail if it is not Allah’s,” Mr Ousayd said. “We want to get to a position where Muslims have power (so that) we can implement more of the (way) in sharia.”

Prominent Hizb ut-Tahrir member Wassim Doureihi told his own audience on Friday that it was “not conspiratorial” to suggest that mainstream leaders who led counter-extremist efforts during the height of ISIS – an effort he criticised – were democracy’s biggest supporters.

At Hizb ut-Tahrir’s headquarters in the electorate of Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke, Mr Doureihi slammed politicians as “criminals in suits” and called Muslim senator Fatima Payman the “white man’s Orientalist fantasy”.

“(The senator’s) experience has shown us that engaging in the political process is not an option for (the community),” he said, claiming Muslims would be at an “inevitable loss” if they took part.

Hizb ut-Tahrir is recognised as a terrorist organisation in Britain and Germany, although the Albanese government has resisted calls to do the same in Australia.

It comes amid – and stands in contrast to – The Muslim Vote, a community campaign spearheaded by respected Sheik Wesam Charkawi to oust Labor ministers across southwest Sydney and elect pro-Palestine independent candidates.

Senator Payman is not associated with any group or political ­alliance, including The Muslim Vote, and has previously said she would be an independent voice for Western Australia as a crossbencher after abandoning Labor over Palestine.

The Australian revealed how the Muslim Vote campaign had struggled to cement candidates it would endorse in target seats, but last week it ran two volunteer workshops, telling supporters that after a year of preparation it was “ready to launch”.

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“Every four years they come to us with a new magic trick to convince you to take part in the shirk of democracy,” Mr Ousayd said.  “Sharia (law) is the greatest … there is no need for it to be changed or compromised.”

On Friday, Mr Ousayd – who has boasted of his friendship with men who fought for ISIS – said democracy “opposed Allah”. “If (a Muslim) enters parliament and is sworn in … they ­become apostates,” he said.  “Prime ministers are false gods … (we should) not join and not vote.”

Hizb ut-Tahrir have re-emerged into the public sphere after the October 7 attacks in Israel, notably as part of pro-Palestine university camps.

Mr Doureihi’s rejection of democracy aligns with Hizb ut-Tahrir’s, which released a statement claiming Muslim participation in recent British and upcoming American elections would give those systems false legitimacy.

But it stands in contrast to other Hizb ut-Tahrir supporters, including its regular speaker Sheik Ibrahim Dadoun, who called October 7 a day of “victory” and has expressed his support for The Muslim Vote.

Group activist Mohammad ­Alwahwah told a Lakemba crowd last month that great mass movements never came at the ballot box. “(Large) movements were never gained by voting … (but) through mass movement of ­people on the ground,” he said.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/false-gods-preaching-against-ou...

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