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Reply #345 - Aug 1st, 2024 at 1:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 12:26pm:
So you think the river to the sea refers to enforcing a UN resolution?


Tell us what you think it means GG?
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Reply #346 - Aug 1st, 2024 at 5:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 12:26pm:
So you think the river to the sea refers to enforcing a UN resolution?


'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free'


ie 2 states side by side living in freedom and peace, as  proposed in UN res 181 and updated in res 242.   

Your error is to run with Hamas' (now abandoned)  extremist interpretation referring to ONE state only - ironically, the interpretation now adopted by Netanyahu's extremist RW cabinet, ie ONE state (Israel) 'from the river to the sea'.

Deplorable. 


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Reply #347 - Aug 1st, 2024 at 9:09pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 5:49pm:
'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free'


ie 2 states side by side living in freedom and peace, as  proposed in UN res 181 and updated in res 242.   


Can you explain where you get the two states side by side bit from Fati's chant?
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Reply #348 - Aug 2nd, 2024 at 1:00am
 
Coupla those Hamas leaders are good Hamasites ...

I posted elsewhere that if Israel gave up the fight, it would disappear - if the radical Islamites gave up the fight, everyone would live in peace there.  Funny how that works...

Israel has GIVEN a second state .... and the Gazans spat on it.... used it as a base to kill Israeli citizens and innocent bystanders in the most brutal ways.  It will be over when they are over..... the thing about that Ismael character is that a Muslim cannot enter heaven unless he is intact.... how is Allah going to find him in that big hole in the ground?


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Reply #349 - Aug 2nd, 2024 at 5:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 9:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 5:49pm:
'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free'


ie 2 states side by side living in freedom and peace, as  proposed in UN res 181 and updated in res 242.   


Can you explain where you get the two states side by side bit from Fati's chant?


See Andy McDonald's comment. "peace from the river to the sea", as per UN 181 and 242. 
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Reply #350 - Aug 2nd, 2024 at 5:16pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 2nd, 2024 at 1:00am:
I posted elsewhere that if Israel gave up the fight, it would disappear


Not with UN backing.

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- if the radical Islamites gave up the fight, everyone would live in peace there.  Funny how that works...


The UN insists Hamas give up the fight,

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Israel has GIVEN a second state .... and the Gazans spat on it....


Nah - Gaza was the world's largest open air prison needing external support to survive (mostly aid from the EU).




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Reply #351 - Aug 2nd, 2024 at 5:43pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 2nd, 2024 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 9:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 5:49pm:
'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free'


ie 2 states side by side living in freedom and peace, as  proposed in UN res 181 and updated in res 242.   


Can you explain where you get the two states side by side bit from Fati's chant?


See Andy McDonald's comment. "peace from the river to the sea", as per UN 181 and 242. 


We are talking about Fati, remember?
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Reply #352 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 12:22pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 2nd, 2024 at 5:43pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 2nd, 2024 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 9:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 1st, 2024 at 5:49pm:
'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free'


ie 2 states side by side living in freedom and peace, as  proposed in UN res 181 and updated in res 242.   


Can you explain where you get the two states side by side bit from Fati's chant?


See Andy McDonald's comment. "peace from the river to the sea", as per UN 181 and 242. 


We are talking about Fati, remember?


And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.

Do try to keep up, perhaps move past your "freedom values" with your contempt for international law delusions.




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Reply #353 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 3:56pm
 
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And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


What makes you think that? Are you using the paperwork to define which Muslims are extremists? Or are you merely failing, once again, to recognise that other people might think different thoughts to the propaganda you have been spoonfed?
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Reply #354 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 5:34pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 3rd, 2024 at 3:56pm:
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And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


What makes you think that?


google

"In 1947, Saudi Arabia voted against the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, and currently does not recognize Israeli sovereignty. However, as of 2023, bilateral negotiations towards Israeli–Saudi normalization are ongoing, with the United States serving as the two sides' mediator.[1]

But Netanyahu is doing everything he can to destroy UN res 181 and 242.
 

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Are you using the paperwork to define which Muslims are extremists?


No

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Or are you merely failing, once again, to recognise that other people might think different thoughts to the propaganda you have been spoonfed?


No.

Any more blind/brain-dead questions?
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Reply #355 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 5:58pm
 
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And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


And you think the refusal by the Saudi government to acknowledge Israel's right to exist proves this? Can you explain your logic? Or does logic not come into it if you are a parrot?
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Reply #356 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 12:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 3rd, 2024 at 5:58pm:
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And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


And you think the refusal by the Saudi government to acknowledge Israel's right to exist proves this? Can you explain your logic? Or does logic not come into it if you are a parrot?


"However, as of 2023, bilateral negotiations towards Israeli–Saudi normalization are ongoing, with the United States serving as the two sides' mediator."

"Refusal of the Saudi government" to accept UN res 181 and 242?  ("normalization")   - unlike Netanyahu's extreme RW government which alone rejects the UN 2-state solution. 
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Reply #357 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 12:06pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 4th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 3rd, 2024 at 5:58pm:
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And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


And you think the refusal by the Saudi government to acknowledge Israel's right to exist proves this? Can you explain your logic? Or does logic not come into it if you are a parrot?


" However, as of 2023, bilateral negotiations towards Israeli–Saudi normalization are ongoing, with the United States serving as the two sides' mediator."

"Refusal of the Saudi government" to accept UN res 181 and 242?   - unlike Netanyahu's extreme RW government? 


Can you explain how you go from the Saudi government still refusing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist, to this:

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And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


???
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Reply #358 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 12:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2024 at 12:06pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 4th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
[quote author=freediver link=1719789000/355#355 date=1722671934] [quote]And now the entire Moslem world - except extremists, and  Jewish extremists like Netanhayu - accepts UN 181 and 242.


And you think the refusal by the Saudi government to acknowledge Israel's right to exist proves this? Can you explain your logic? Or does logic not come into it if you are a parrot?


"However, as of 2023, bilateral negotiations towards Israeli–Saudi normalization are ongoing, with the United States serving as the two sides' mediator."

"Refusal of the Saudi government" to accept UN res 181 and 242, while entering negotiations   - unlike Netanyahu's extreme RW government? 


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Can you explain how you go from the Saudi government still refusing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist, to this:


Simple logic beyond your blind 'freedom' ideology?

Saudis are (or were, before the current genocide in Gaza) in negotiation with Israel, by definition they are open to accepting Israel's right to exist.


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Reply #359 - Aug 11th, 2024 at 12:57pm
 
the term "good mozlem" is an oxymoron.
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