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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #30 - Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:36pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 8:55pm:

Good on the ALP.

If the Palestinians want a state, why don't they just set one up instead of devoting all their energy to killing each other and slaughtering Jews?

Western nations set up just about every other nation in the middle east.

Perhaps they never learned how to do it, other than ISIS style.

CONSIDER;
The ummah,
the worldwide community of moslems, 'bound together by ties of religion',
at this point of time,
possess DOZENS of moslem majority nations, in the Middle East.

AS PRESENTED, IN THIS FOLLOWING IMAGE.....

IMAGE......
https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/pw_sign_22.gif

CONSIDER;
Those we know, as 'the Jewish people', are a people, who DID emerge from the 'Middle East'.

And it can be argued that the Jewish people have a historic connection to 'the land of Israel'.
e.g. in the common local names, Samaria, Judea.

The argument is made, that the Jewish people have a legitimate, historic, and cultural, connection to their land.

But for ISLAMISTS, from 1948 thru 2024, the existence of the State of Israel is 'a problem'.

Why so ?

Because the existence, of the State of Israel and its secular authority over the land it controls,
has 'rudely' displaced a longstanding local religious hegemony of ISLAM, over the entirety of the region.

And that circumstance really, really irks all devout moslems.....
.....presently alive, in the 'Middle East'.

hegemony = = leadership or dominance, especially by one state or social group over others.

irk = = irritate; annoy.

But its not as though 'Palestinians' would not be able, to be absorbed, culturally, and socially, within neighbouring 'ISLAMIC' nations.

THE 'IRRITATION'.......
Is because the existence, of the State of Israel, has become a 'cause celeb' for every devout moslem,
.....on this planet.

Its the truth !

cause celebre = = a controversial issue that attracts a great deal of public attention.

QUESTION;
Is the existence of the State of Israel a problem [to moslems]
because 'the Jews stole our land' ?
[look again, at the MAP image, above.]

Or is the problem of the existence of the State of Israel,
really about the intransigence of
the ISLAMIC religious doctrine of Jihad ?

intransigent = = unwilling to change one’s views or to agree.

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QUESTION;
What is the ISLAMIC religious doctrine of Jihad ?

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihad-doctrine

The ISLAMIC >> religious doctrine of Jihad << has been revealed in the reality of its 'presence' within Australia,
very recently........

Quote:

Australia:
Muslim teen who went on stabbing rampage said he was going on ‘path of jihad for the sake of Allah’

May 8, 2024
By Robert Spencer

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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/05/australia-muslim-teen-who-went-on-stabbing-ra...

'AND THERE'S MORE'......

Quote:

Understanding Jihad

Apr 26, 2024
By Robert L. Meyer

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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/04/understanding-jihad-2

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #31 - Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 11:20pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I do talk to muslims

Somehow, I doubt that, Baron. I suspect you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83628 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #32 - Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 11:51pm Well - she's got the right surname for a politician.... In Gaza she would be able to meditate daily on her beliefs.... quietly ..... but a politician and speak out about it... as a woman... and about a democratic party flawed as it is? She'd be a dangling party disciple in ten minutes.... or stoned, man....
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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #33 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:34am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian the only person here I have seen demonstrate fear of talking to Muslims is you. Telling everyone else what Muslims think is not the same as talking to them.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #34 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 8:59am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why don't you just admit you've swallowed the Taqiyya of Islam used by practically all Muslims in all sects.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #35 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 9:35am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 11:20pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I do talk to muslims

Somehow, I doubt that, Baron. I suspect you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

And where are you supposed to talk to these muslims? Outside Lakemba Mosque? Or are you supposed to accost muslims on the street to have a conversation? And how are you supposed to know these people are muslims anyway? Unless of course they are female in hijab.

ps ... I talked to muslims every working day for 8 years. But it was what I observed over those 8 years that was more telling than any conversation.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #37 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 2:28pm

freediver wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:34am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian the only person here I have seen demonstrate fear of talking to Muslims is you. Telling everyone else what Muslims think is not the same as talking to them.

I have addressed as far as I know only one Muslim on this site, Freediver, Gandulf. I have challenged you to provide evidence of what you claim, you have yet to do so. Why? Unable to do so? Just more bullshit from you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #38 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 2:31pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 8:59am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why don't you just admit you've swallowed the Taqiyya of Islam used by practically all Muslims in all sects.

Why no just admit that your an Islamophobe? You don't know any Muslims. You just hate them on principle. Just as you hate Indigenous Australians. You're just a Racist, Gnads. A complete WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #39 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 2:34pm

Aquarius wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 9:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 11:20pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I do talk to muslims

Somehow, I doubt that, Baron. I suspect you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

And where are you supposed to talk to these muslims? Outside Lakemba Mosque? Or are you supposed to accost muslims on the street to have a conversation? And how are you supposed to know these people are muslims anyway? Unless of course they are female in hijab.

ps ... I talked to muslims every working day for 8 years. But it was what I observed over those 8 years that was more telling than any conversation.

Aren't you lucky then. I have served with, studied with them and worked with them. I never encounted a bad Muslim in over 20 years. Funny that. I suspect you just encounted a bad lot. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10687 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #40 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 2:54pm The bad ones usually get shot by the cops, can't talk to them, they're dead
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10687 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #41 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:18pm How did she get the name "Payman"? Her husband's surname is Stokes, and her parents names are Abdul and Shogufa Waki https://www.bing.com/search?pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR&q=fatima+payman%27s+parents
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44187 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #42 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:43pm Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 3:18pm: How did she get the name "Payman"? Her husband's surname is Stokes, and her parents names are Abdul and Shogufa Waki https://www.bing.com/search?pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR&q=fatima+payman%27s+parents She didn't want to be called Fati Wacky (the actual pashtoon spelling).
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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #43 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 6:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 2:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 4^th, 2024 at 5:34am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2024 at 10:01pm:

You know, I just wish that some of you would talk to every day Muslim men and women. I really do. You might get some idea of what they think and why you're so mistaken. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian the only person here I have seen demonstrate fear of talking to Muslims is you. Telling everyone else what Muslims think is not the same as talking to them.

I have addressed as far as I know only one Muslim on this site, Freediver, Gandulf. I have challenged you to provide evidence of what you claim, you have yet to do so. Why? Unable to do so? Just more bullshit from you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes, out of the half a dozen or so Muslims who have posted here, Gandalf would have been the least threatening to whatever it is you are projecting onto Islam.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #44 - Jul 4^th, 2024 at 6:26pm

Preamble;

Fatima Payman is a good moslem.

She is a moslem, who is [clearly] seeking to deliberately infuse a more ISLAMIC 'political' influence,
upon Australia, and upon Australian politics.

Fatima Payman is a clever [moslem] girl.

Not so ???

.....read on.

777777777

"This is for Gaza"

- George Galloway

QUESTION;
How can moslems [followers of ISLAM] 'empower', a more significant influence upon 'the politic' of the host nation, of which they may be a citizen ?

ANSWER;
Vote tactically and vote collectively [as a community].......and then watch the infidel 'chooks' run around, in panic, as though they were HEADLESS.

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With much larger [ISLAMIC] communities already established in the UK........
This deliberate [political] strategy of the 'well established' local moslem community in the UK, is well advanced there.

It is called Democracy. .....the people have the power decide, and to change governments.

And......it will emerge, that the ['collective'] moslem community in the UK, will want 'a place of significant respect' to be established,
for aspects of ISLAMIC law, within the purview of 'English law'.

And why wouldn't they ! THEY, are British citizens.

And they view Britain as a nascent ISLAMIC nation. ....YES THEY DO !

purview = = the scope of the influence or concerns of something.

TheMuslimVote.co.uk UNMASKED
Campaign backer exposed to be ex-UK leader of banned terrorist grou..

12 min
February 20th, 2024

https://old.bitchute.com/video/1yJbHvTxBvY/

Quote:

GB News can reveal that one of the men seemingly behind
TheMuslimVote.co.uk
has been identified as Muhammad Jalal (formerly known as Julaluddin Patel),
the former UK leader of the banned terrorist organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir.

GB News https://old.bitchute.com/channel/gbnews/

AND...........

@ 55 secs

In the UK, Galloway declares his win....."This is for Gaza"

Farage:
Religious voting is HERE,
Parliament is in DENIAL, and Galloway vote 'overwhelmingly Muslim..

12 min
March 4th, 2024

https://old.bitchute.com/video/E5rPvwaGLJ4/

Quote:

We have a muslim population in the UK that has grown by 44% in 10 years.

Whilst not all of them are going to vote for Galloway, a significant number are…

What we saw today was a rebirth of religious sectarianism.’

We are seeing genuine sectarian politics…

people voting on religious lines, and overwhelmingly for Galloway that vote was a muslim vote’

Nigel Farage asks if this is a dark day for British democracy.

GB News https://old.bitchute.com/channel/gbnews/

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TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE.

...and to pull your heads out of the sand.

We welcomed many moslems to our shores,
many came from places we would regard as war zones.

And we gave many moslems sanctuary,
....we gave them, a sanctuary.

More fools us.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1718444378/12#12
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ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

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