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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #75 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:40pm

MattE wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 4:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 3:11pm:

whiteknight wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Well Bobby, one should vote greens, or for a good teal independent.

The trouble is that the Greens give their preferences to Labor -
so a vote for Greens is a vote for Labor.

We are being ripped off by our preferential voting system.

You're wrong.

Voters give their preference to another candidate. The parties do not give anything to any other candidate.

If you choose to follow the suggestion on the political party how to vote card, that is on you and your lack of understanding on how to vote.

I have never followed a "how to vote" card. I always put Greens candidates last.

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As for the fairness of our system, it is fair.

Last night we saw a UK Labour landslide with less votes than what Corbyn received. Candidates in the UK won with only 30 percent of the voters in a constituency voting for them.

In Australia, a candidate in the House of Representatives must win 50%+1 in order to win their seat. But again, if you don't know how to vote and believed you had to follow a "how to vote" pamphlet, that is on you and your lack of a civics education.

Yeah. The days of the senate whisperers are over.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29223 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #76 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:45pm whiteknight wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:50pm: Well Bobby, one should vote greens, or for a good teal independent. Only an idiot would vote for either.
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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #77 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:49am

mothra wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

The Madonna/Whore complex writes itself large across Ozpol's Sky "news" followers attempt at interpretation about just really what a "diversity hire" is and who, when scrutinised, the label could possibly apply to to.

Usually a brown skinned woman. Anyone on your side of the fence you'd like to volunteer? Because i've a suggestion.

Utter, bollocks.

Payman was elected to represent the people of Western Australia and advance their cause in our federal parliament. She is an elected and paid public servant (like the rest of them) of the people of Australia. Would that they all remember this.

She tearfully told the media that she is “the true voice of West Australians”. That she is speaking for them. The chutzpah of such a statement? Senator Payman, where were you during the vote on the live export industry this week, the results of which will spell disaster for much of rural WA? That’s right, you were missing in action. You didn’t vote. You abstained. So the people of Western Australia were without your apparently indispensable voice this week.

Senator Payman’s behaviour is a great example of what happens when you don’t discipline kids. It’s also an example of what happens when you preselect kids. She spoke of not having a “support person” when going to see the Prime Minister. The embarrassing immaturity of such a statement.
..
You join a party that has bonded voting? Then you know the rules of the game. Payman has cried victim. They’re freezing me out, it’s because I’m a woman of colour.

Her posture and her comments are an insult to every one of us whose families have fled other countries to start a new life in Australia, who came here with nothing. Spare us, senator. You are no victim.
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So, what is your tipping point? What will cause you to get off the couch of disengagement and start being counted before polling day.

It might surprise you to know that I’m not a member of any political party. I’d never been to a rally of any kind until October 7. That was my tipping point. The burning Israeli flag and chants of what many still believe was “gas the Jews” on the steps of the Opera House. It was the full revelation of the depth of anti-Semitism in academia and sections of politics and media. The hate-filled terror apologists who crawled out like cockroaches from under rocks. That was my tipping point. That was what prompted me to step up and speak out. What’s yours? Find it before it’s too late.

Gemma Tognini

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44187 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #78 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 10:02am Quote: She tearfully told the media that she is “the true voice of West Australians”. She is the Voice of Bbwiyawn and peculiar gweggy turd, poison Pill Phil o' Perth, Carl d. Now we know.
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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #79 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

The Madonna/Whore complex writes itself large across Ozpol's Sky "news" followers attempt at interpretation about just really what a "diversity hire" is and who, when scrutinised, the label could possibly apply to to.

Usually a brown skinned woman. Anyone on your side of the fence you'd like to volunteer? Because i've a suggestion.

Utter, bollocks.

Payman was elected to represent the people of Western Australia and advance their cause in our federal parliament. She is an elected and paid public servant (like the rest of them) of the people of Australia. Would that they all remember this.

She tearfully told the media that she is “the true voice of West Australians”. That she is speaking for them. The chutzpah of such a statement? Senator Payman, where were you during the vote on the live export industry this week, the results of which will spell disaster for much of rural WA? That’s right, you were missing in action. You didn’t vote. You abstained. So the people of Western Australia were without your apparently indispensable voice this week.

Senator Payman’s behaviour is a great example of what happens when you don’t discipline kids. It’s also an example of what happens when you preselect kids. She spoke of not having a “support person” when going to see the Prime Minister. The embarrassing immaturity of such a statement.
..
You join a party that has bonded voting? Then you know the rules of the game. Payman has cried victim. They’re freezing me out, it’s because I’m a woman of colour.

Her posture and her comments are an insult to every one of us whose families have fled other countries to start a new life in Australia, who came here with nothing. Spare us, senator. You are no victim.
...
So, what is your tipping point? What will cause you to get off the couch of disengagement and start being counted before polling day.

It might surprise you to know that I’m not a member of any political party. I’d never been to a rally of any kind until October 7. That was my tipping point. The burning Israeli flag and chants of what many still believe was “gas the Jews” on the steps of the Opera House. It was the full revelation of the depth of anti-Semitism in academia and sections of politics and media. The hate-filled terror apologists who crawled out like cockroaches from under rocks. That was my tipping point. That was what prompted me to step up and speak out. What’s yours? Find it before it’s too late.

Gemma Tognini

Fatima Payman is the voice of Islam. She is not the voice of West Australians if that voice conflicts with her Islamic beliefs. Hence giving Labor and the WA constituents the flick over Palestine. So we can see her disloyalty to her party and WA constituents laid bare.

But is that surprising? There has never been as much disunity in this country as we are seeing now. When Payman announced she was leaving the ALP on Thursday afternoon, she pledged to be a "true voice" for Palestine and warned that her "conscience leaves me no choice but to strike out as an independent." So where does that leave the WA constituents?

What we are seeing now is only a small indication of what we will be seeing in the future when there are several "Paymans" in parliament. If we think this current conflict is causing unprecedented chaos, imagine what it will be like when muslims reach 5% and more of the population.

The writing is now on the wall. Islamism will be firmly embedded in our politics - and isn't that what mussos are here for?

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #80 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:28am

Aquarius wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

The Madonna/Whore complex writes itself large across Ozpol's Sky "news" followers attempt at interpretation about just really what a "diversity hire" is and who, when scrutinised, the label could possibly apply to to.

Usually a brown skinned woman. Anyone on your side of the fence you'd like to volunteer? Because i've a suggestion.

Utter, bollocks.

Payman was elected to represent the people of Western Australia and advance their cause in our federal parliament. She is an elected and paid public servant (like the rest of them) of the people of Australia. Would that they all remember this.

She tearfully told the media that she is “the true voice of West Australians”. That she is speaking for them. The chutzpah of such a statement? Senator Payman, where were you during the vote on the live export industry this week, the results of which will spell disaster for much of rural WA? That’s right, you were missing in action. You didn’t vote. You abstained. So the people of Western Australia were without your apparently indispensable voice this week.

Senator Payman’s behaviour is a great example of what happens when you don’t discipline kids. It’s also an example of what happens when you preselect kids. She spoke of not having a “support person” when going to see the Prime Minister. The embarrassing immaturity of such a statement.
..
You join a party that has bonded voting? Then you know the rules of the game. Payman has cried victim. They’re freezing me out, it’s because I’m a woman of colour.

Her posture and her comments are an insult to every one of us whose families have fled other countries to start a new life in Australia, who came here with nothing. Spare us, senator. You are no victim.
...
So, what is your tipping point? What will cause you to get off the couch of disengagement and start being counted before polling day.

It might surprise you to know that I’m not a member of any political party. I’d never been to a rally of any kind until October 7. That was my tipping point. The burning Israeli flag and chants of what many still believe was “gas the Jews” on the steps of the Opera House. It was the full revelation of the depth of anti-Semitism in academia and sections of politics and media. The hate-filled terror apologists who crawled out like cockroaches from under rocks. That was my tipping point. That was what prompted me to step up and speak out. What’s yours? Find it before it’s too late.

Gemma Tognini

Fatima Payman is the voice of Islam. She is not the voice of West Australians if that voice conflicts with her Islamic beliefs. Hence giving Labor and the WA constituents the flick over Palestine. So we can see her disloyalty to her party and WA constituents laid bare.

But is that surprising? There has never been as much disunity in this country as we are seeing now. When Payman announced she was leaving the ALP on Thursday afternoon, she pledged to be a "true voice" for Palestine and warned that her "conscience leaves me no choice but to strike out as an independent." So where does that leave the WA constituents?

What we are seeing now is only a small indication of what we will be seeing in the future when there are several "Paymans" in parliament. If we think this current conflict is causing unprecedented chaos, imagine what it will be like when muslims reach 5% and more of the population.

The writing is now on the wall. Islamism will be firmly embedded in our politics - and isn't that what mussos are here for?

Taqiyya is inside our parliaments.

Vibrant multiculti diversity is our strength.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83628 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #81 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 1:42am Not yet - but if she were in Gaza she'd soon enough be a good Muslim...... I think Hamas would think her views too Westernised into the ways of the Great Satan... they'd whip or stone or shoot or hang her. Nice people all round..... great race the Hamasites....
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10687 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #82 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 1:52am She's a dual citizen as well ... but she's been given a free pass
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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #83 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 6:51am

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:28am:

Aquarius wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

The Madonna/Whore complex writes itself large across Ozpol's Sky "news" followers attempt at interpretation about just really what a "diversity hire" is and who, when scrutinised, the label could possibly apply to to.

Usually a brown skinned woman. Anyone on your side of the fence you'd like to volunteer? Because i've a suggestion.

Utter, bollocks.

Payman was elected to represent the people of Western Australia and advance their cause in our federal parliament. She is an elected and paid public servant (like the rest of them) of the people of Australia. Would that they all remember this.

She tearfully told the media that she is “the true voice of West Australians”. That she is speaking for them. The chutzpah of such a statement? Senator Payman, where were you during the vote on the live export industry this week, the results of which will spell disaster for much of rural WA? That’s right, you were missing in action. You didn’t vote. You abstained. So the people of Western Australia were without your apparently indispensable voice this week.

Senator Payman’s behaviour is a great example of what happens when you don’t discipline kids. It’s also an example of what happens when you preselect kids. She spoke of not having a “support person” when going to see the Prime Minister. The embarrassing immaturity of such a statement.
..
You join a party that has bonded voting? Then you know the rules of the game. Payman has cried victim. They’re freezing me out, it’s because I’m a woman of colour.

Her posture and her comments are an insult to every one of us whose families have fled other countries to start a new life in Australia, who came here with nothing. Spare us, senator. You are no victim.
...
So, what is your tipping point? What will cause you to get off the couch of disengagement and start being counted before polling day.

It might surprise you to know that I’m not a member of any political party. I’d never been to a rally of any kind until October 7. That was my tipping point. The burning Israeli flag and chants of what many still believe was “gas the Jews” on the steps of the Opera House. It was the full revelation of the depth of anti-Semitism in academia and sections of politics and media. The hate-filled terror apologists who crawled out like cockroaches from under rocks. That was my tipping point. That was what prompted me to step up and speak out. What’s yours? Find it before it’s too late.

Gemma Tognini

Fatima Payman is the voice of Islam. She is not the voice of West Australians if that voice conflicts with her Islamic beliefs. Hence giving Labor and the WA constituents the flick over Palestine. So we can see her disloyalty to her party and WA constituents laid bare.

But is that surprising? There has never been as much disunity in this country as we are seeing now. When Payman announced she was leaving the ALP on Thursday afternoon, she pledged to be a "true voice" for Palestine and warned that her "conscience leaves me no choice but to strike out as an independent." So where does that leave the WA constituents?

What we are seeing now is only a small indication of what we will be seeing in the future when there are several "Paymans" in parliament. If we think this current conflict is causing unprecedented chaos, imagine what it will be like when muslims reach 5% and more of the population.

The writing is now on the wall. Islamism will be firmly embedded in our politics - and isn't that what mussos are here for?

Taqiyya is inside our parliaments.

Vibrant multiculti diversity is our strength.

Christ on a bike! You;re all so paranoid!

And with abundant evidence available to assuage your fear.

All that's left is simple white supremacism. You're just a bunch of jolly old nazis who demonise Muslims instead of Jews.

Oh, and Africans and Aboriginal people.

Anyone spotting a theme?

Meanwhile, the majority of us will just go on living in the reality of modern life. You keep seething in resentment for the loss of that which is long gone.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #84 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 7:50am

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 1:52am:

She's a dual citizen as well ... but she's been given a free pass

Marvellous ey? And to think about all the drama they gave Barnaby Joyce and at least 6 other sitting MPs 3 or 4 who were born here but declared dual citizens by descent.

Matt Canavan born on the Gold Coast, was found to be an Italian citizen after his mother had registered him with the Italian Consulate in Brisbane as an Italian Resident Abroad without his consent when he was 26 years old in 2006. Shocked

Like what would have possessed her to do that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%9318_Australian_parliamentary_eligibili...

Why hadn't or isn't Payman being subjected to the same scrutiny under 44(i) of the Australian Constitution?

She was born in Afghanistan coming here when she was 8 yrs old.

If they applied this criteria to her then the ALPs political embarrassment and the threat of an Independent sectarian MP who supports the pro-Palestinian protestors here, chanting for Israeli destruction repeating the slogan "From the River to thge Sea" & the subsequent rise of anti-semitism to back a terrorist backed body, the Palestinian Authority in Gaza...... would be gone from politics.

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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #85 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 7:52am

mothra wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 6:51am:

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:28am:

Aquarius wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

The Madonna/Whore complex writes itself large across Ozpol's Sky "news" followers attempt at interpretation about just really what a "diversity hire" is and who, when scrutinised, the label could possibly apply to to.

Usually a brown skinned woman. Anyone on your side of the fence you'd like to volunteer? Because i've a suggestion.

Utter, bollocks.

Payman was elected to represent the people of Western Australia and advance their cause in our federal parliament. She is an elected and paid public servant (like the rest of them) of the people of Australia. Would that they all remember this.

She tearfully told the media that she is “the true voice of West Australians”. That she is speaking for them. The chutzpah of such a statement? Senator Payman, where were you during the vote on the live export industry this week, the results of which will spell disaster for much of rural WA? That’s right, you were missing in action. You didn’t vote. You abstained. So the people of Western Australia were without your apparently indispensable voice this week.

Senator Payman’s behaviour is a great example of what happens when you don’t discipline kids. It’s also an example of what happens when you preselect kids. She spoke of not having a “support person” when going to see the Prime Minister. The embarrassing immaturity of such a statement.
..
You join a party that has bonded voting? Then you know the rules of the game. Payman has cried victim. They’re freezing me out, it’s because I’m a woman of colour.

Her posture and her comments are an insult to every one of us whose families have fled other countries to start a new life in Australia, who came here with nothing. Spare us, senator. You are no victim.
...
So, what is your tipping point? What will cause you to get off the couch of disengagement and start being counted before polling day.

It might surprise you to know that I’m not a member of any political party. I’d never been to a rally of any kind until October 7. That was my tipping point. The burning Israeli flag and chants of what many still believe was “gas the Jews” on the steps of the Opera House. It was the full revelation of the depth of anti-Semitism in academia and sections of politics and media. The hate-filled terror apologists who crawled out like cockroaches from under rocks. That was my tipping point. That was what prompted me to step up and speak out. What’s yours? Find it before it’s too late.

Gemma Tognini

Fatima Payman is the voice of Islam. She is not the voice of West Australians if that voice conflicts with her Islamic beliefs. Hence giving Labor and the WA constituents the flick over Palestine. So we can see her disloyalty to her party and WA constituents laid bare.

But is that surprising? There has never been as much disunity in this country as we are seeing now. When Payman announced she was leaving the ALP on Thursday afternoon, she pledged to be a "true voice" for Palestine and warned that her "conscience leaves me no choice but to strike out as an independent." So where does that leave the WA constituents?

What we are seeing now is only a small indication of what we will be seeing in the future when there are several "Paymans" in parliament. If we think this current conflict is causing unprecedented chaos, imagine what it will be like when muslims reach 5% and more of the population.

The writing is now on the wall. Islamism will be firmly embedded in our politics - and isn't that what mussos are here for?

Taqiyya is inside our parliaments.

Vibrant multiculti diversity is our strength.

Christ on a bike! You;re all so paranoid!

And with abundant evidence available to assuage your fear.

All that's left is simple white supremacism. You're just a bunch of jolly old nazis who demonise Muslims instead of Jews.

Oh, and Africans and Aboriginal people.

Anyone spotting a theme?

Meanwhile, the majority of us will just go on living in the reality of modern life. You keep seething in resentment for the loss of that which is long gone.

Are you saying Fati was not lying?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35195 Gender:	Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem Reply #86 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 7:56am You all claiming antisemitism when it is clearly nothing of the sort while pimping Islamophobia is certainly a treat. Ask not for whom the bell signalling where the nazi is lurking is tolls... it tolls for you lot.
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Re: Fatima Payman is a good moslem
Reply #88 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 8:26am

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 8:15am:

Quote:

You all claiming antisemitism when it is clearly nothing of the sort while pimping Islamophobia is certainly a treat.

Why is it clearly not anti semitism?

Because it's not directed at Jewish people or the Jewish faith. In fact, a great many of the Jewish faith also stand with Palestine.

The problem is with Israel, the governemt, led by ultra right wing loonies who are driving Israel off a cliff and taking as many women and children with it as it can manage.

But this has all been explained to you countless times. Now all there is to look forward to, as i have have stooped to reply to you, is you verballing me for pages and lying about what i said.

As you do, trolling your own forum.

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Reply #89 - Jul 8^th, 2024 at 8:32am

mothra wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

You all claiming antisemitism when it is clearly nothing of the sort while pimping Islamophobia is certainly a treat.

Ask not for whom the bell signalling where the nazi is lurking is tolls... it tolls for you lot.

Yeah of course you'd be defending the indefensible.

Another terrorist backing leftoid hypocrite.

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