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Are Australians over Tesla EV. Was it just a blip?
Jul 4th, 2024 at 9:16pm
 
Was it just a blip in automotive history?

If so, what's next?

If it is hydrogen, where will the fuel come from? At what price?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/tesla-graveyard-photo-shows-major-shift-in-aussie-ev-m...

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Tesla 'graveyard' photo shows major shift in Aussie EV market
In Victoria alone, some 2000 Teslas arrive in Port Melbourne every month without any buyers. And they're starting to pile up.

Joe Attanasio·Senior Reporter
4 June 2024·4-min read

Thousands of Teslas are sitting idle at Australian ports as interest in electric vehicles stalls and new and more affordable options enter the Australian market. Aerial photos of a port in Melbourne highlight the dramatic shift as Teslas that once rolled off the assembly line to eager buyers now simply wait to find a home.

The aerial vision was captured by 7News with the network melodramatically referring to the scene as a "Tesla graveyard". However it does illustrate the changing gears of the Aussie EV market which has been full speed ahead in recent years.

Industry experts warn the slowing rise in sales is the result of a lack of proper infrastructure coupled with the fact that people are becoming more price conscious, particularly as more options hit the market. ...
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Re: Are Australians over Tesla EV. Was it just a blip?
Reply #1 - Jul 5th, 2024 at 12:32am
 
Toyota sold more hybrids last year compared to all brands of EV's combined.

You can still drive a hybrid when it has a flat battery.
Hybrids are good for around 25km on electric power which makes them good for short trips like shopping.

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‘Screwed’: Aussies trying to sell their used Teslas face massive challenges


Trying to sell a second hand Tesla is taking years in some cases and requiring hefty discounts, sparking anger among owners of the once-hot cars.

A second hand Tesla that’s been listed for sale for the past four years without finding a buyer offers a stark insight into the challenges faced by Australians trying to offload older used electric vehicles.

The 2015 Model S in question is almost a decade old and has 115,000 kilometres on the clock, with some visible wear and tear across its interior.

Despite its age and the fact it’s sat unsold since July 2020, the current owner is seeking $86,800, although the price has been discounted by almost $16,000 over the years. Used car valuations site RedBook puts the guide for such a car in a considerably lower range of $51,400 to $57,300.

It’s one of almost 1000 used Teslas currently listed on carsales.com.au, ranging from a sleek 2011 Roadster for $349,000 to a stock standard 2019 Model 3 for just $32,000.

Analysis by news.com.au shows a large number of those vehicles for sale have been languishing for several months and up to two years.

“Second hand EVs do pose some challenges for retailers and private sellers at the moment,” Michael Costello from Cox Automotive Australia, which owns the Manheim wholesale auction house, told news.com.au.

And then there’s customer anxiety over ageing batteries, which can cost anywhere between $10,000 and $20,000 to replace.

“A lack of clarity for consumers around battery longevity beyond the eight-year warranty, and a lack of battery health tests to reassure used buyers, [is another reason].”

Some used Teslas haven’t held their value well over the past few years.

“If we look at Tesla specifically, the average residual sold value of a three to four year old Model 3 sold in the past six months is about 65 per cent – or two-thirds of the original new list price.

“By contrast the average retained value of a 2020-build Toyota Camry sold in 2024 is more like 90 per cent, and a Mazda 6 is about 75 per cent.”

Analysing the current market for used Teslas on car sale sites, the Model X seems particularly challenging to move, with a number of listings active for up to two years or more.

Used Teslas ‘completely worthless’

“Vehicles with the strongest retained values are largely sought after and reliable Japanese makes in both the passenger car and SUV segments as well as in the 2-4 year and 5-7 year categories,” he said.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/screwed-aussies-trying...




Tesla don't sell spare parts if car needs anything it has to go back to Tesla dealer. Tesla don't release any workshop manuals so mechanics don't know how to fix anything from battery to electric motors.

The average mechanic wouldn't be able to tell you if a used Tesla or EV is worth buying they don't have the knowledge to check all parts of electric drivetrain.
These electric cars will be scrapped around 10 years of age.

A well maintained petrol/diesel will last 20+ years with plastic bits and some electronics failing yet still running OK.

A hydrogen fuel cell vehicle uses electric motor takes electron from Hydrogen atom to recharge battery could be good it will have to go back to dealer to fix anything as just about every mechanic will have no idea how to fix it.
They haven't been around long enough to know what fails first and how expensive they are to fix.

Toyota hybrids are the go they have perfected it from Prius experience.



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Reply #2 - Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:36pm
 
See my previous thread

Was buying a byd dolphin.

Very impressed with the car till explained the waiting list.

I'm still on it and happy to blow away the $200 deposit if a Mazda 2 becoming available.

I suggest that once Albo is gone everything including the billions for ev info structure will disappear.

Albos poured tax payers dollars into electric vehicles.

Not sure why, let's wait and see what X politicians end up employed in China car companies?
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Reply #3 - Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:40pm
 
Also the premium on my home insurance to charge a electrical vehicle I only just discovered.

Doing the sums despite Albos support for Chinese imports the sums aren't in their favour.

Without the government support?

No one be buying them, not a confident booster
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Reply #4 - Jul 6th, 2024 at 7:58pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jul 6th, 2024 at 6:40pm:
Also the premium on my home insurance to charge a electrical vehicle I only just discovered.

Doing the sums despite Albos support for Chinese imports the sums aren't in their favour.

Without the government support?

No one be buying them, not a confident booster


My provider(Red Energy)gives quite large concessions to EV users. How much more is your insurance? It's a far better deal than I get as a feed in. I wonder if they balance out. No EV here, looking to buy another 8.
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Re: Are Australians over Tesla EV. Was it just a blip?
Reply #5 - Jul 6th, 2024 at 10:55pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4th, 2024 at 9:16pm:
Was it just a blip in automotive history?

If so, what's next?

If it is hydrogen, where will the fuel come from? At what price?


If I could dream a dream... NASA would create a self-contained, solar-powered technology that extracts hydrogen from water for their Mars missions (Ice in that case) that would trickle down to consumer-grade tech that would allow us to collect rooftop solar and rainwater, convert it to hydrogen and run our cars off that.

The more hydrogen we can add to our energy mix the better.
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:01am
 
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‘Car yards full of EVs people don’t want’


The local boss of a Japanese ­motoring giant has declared Australian car yards are brimming with electric vehicles that people do not want to buy, and warned that the price of petrol cars could rise unless Labor overhauls its ­vehicle-emissions standards.

In a new front in the growing industry push for Anthony Albanese to revamp his climate and energy policy, Mitsubishi Motors Australia chief executive Shaun Westcott said the government needed to rethink the aggressiveness of its targets aimed at lowering the carbon footprint of new cars by 60 per cent by 2030.

The sector is anticipating the New Vehicle Efficiency Standard, which came into effect in January, would lead to car suppliers paying $2.7bn in fines by the end of the decade for missing carbon-­emission requirements.

Mr Westcott’s warning came as an executive of Toyota Australia – whose chief executive ­Matthew Callachor stood with Energy Minister Chris Bowen to endorse the scheme when it was introduced into parliament last year – has conceded the targets within the policy are “very ­challenging”.


In the past two months, the food industry has called for the Albanese government to drop its 82 per cent renewables target to focus on bringing electricity ­prices down, while the Australian Chamber of Commerce and ­Industry has argued there needs to be a stronger focus on using more gas to create electricity.

Seizing on figures from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries that showed electric car sales had fallen since the ­vehicle-emissions standards were introduced, Mr Westcott said: “There is nothing we can do to force them to buy those vehicles.”

The FCAI this month released figures showing electric vehicles accounted for 5.9 per cent of total car sales in February, down from 9.6 per cent in the same month last year.

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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:21am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4th, 2024 at 9:16pm:
Tesla 'graveyard' photo shows major shift in Aussie EV market
In Victoria alone, some 2000 Teslas arrive in Port Melbourne every month without any buyers. And they're starting to pile up.



Musk screwed up on this one ... the same people that drove the push to move to renewables, ie, the left, are the ones he's now targeting in his bid to kiss trumps arse ... why would he now expect them to continue to support him?  Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:26am
 
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:21am:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4th, 2024 at 9:16pm:
Tesla 'graveyard' photo shows major shift in Aussie EV market
In Victoria alone, some 2000 Teslas arrive in Port Melbourne every month without any buyers. And they're starting to pile up.



Musk screwed up on this one ... the same people that drove the push to move to renewables, ie, the left, are the ones he's now targeting in his bid to kiss trumps arse ... why would he now expect them to continue to support him?  Cheesy


The same thing happens to everyone who gets involved with Trump - their lives get ruined.

They'll never learn.

You'd be crazy to go anywhere near a Tesla now - the (totally unacceptable) vandalism is only going to get worse.

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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:03pm
 
It ain't gonna work.
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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:15pm
 
The BYD Shark is interesting.

BYD make the best batteries


The battery on the shark can power your home for 3 days.

And it is a hybrid /EV which can out drag a ford Raptor
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:19pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 3:15pm:
The BYD Shark is interesting.

BYD make the best batteries


The battery on the shark can power your home for 3 days.



Indeed it can.

During a blackout a few months ago I used a BYD to supply power to the house.

Damn smooth ride too.
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Nearly All Cybertrucks Have Been Recalled Because Tesla Used the Wrong Glue

Tesla said Thursday it would recall nearly all the Cybertrucks it has produced to repair a stainless steel trim panel that the carmaker said could become detached from the vehicle while driving. It’s the eighth recall for the distinctive all-electric pickup, which hit US roads just over two years ago.


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Reply #13 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 9:46am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:26am:
John Smith wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:21am:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4th, 2024 at 9:16pm:
Tesla 'graveyard' photo shows major shift in Aussie EV market
In Victoria alone, some 2000 Teslas arrive in Port Melbourne every month without any buyers. And they're starting to pile up.



Musk screwed up on this one ... the same people that drove the push to move to renewables, ie, the left, are the ones he's now targeting in his bid to kiss trumps arse ... why would he now expect them to continue to support him?  Cheesy


The same thing happens to everyone who gets involved with Trump - their lives get ruined.

They'll never learn.

You'd be crazy to go anywhere near a Tesla now - the (totally unacceptable) vandalism is only going to get worse.




Yeas, the vicious Left will destroy you if you do not side with them:

“We are so mentally unstable, and so nakedly vindictive, that if you even own a car of which we suddenly disapprove, we will violate your property and make you feel unsafe.”

They are like Mao's Cutural Revolution goons. The Lefty mongs are not well-adjusted grown-up. They are deranged prisoners of their own mind-forged psychodrama.

****ing loons, in a word.




Deranged leftist scrapes his own butt hole and smears it on a cybertruck.
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Reply #14 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 10:39am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 4th, 2024 at 9:16pm:
Was it just a blip in automotive history?

If so, what's next?

If it is hydrogen, where will the fuel come from? At what price?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/tesla-graveyard-photo-shows-major-shift-in-aussie-ev-m...

Quote:
Tesla 'graveyard' photo shows major shift in Aussie EV market
In Victoria alone, some 2000 Teslas arrive in Port Melbourne every month without any buyers. And they're starting to pile up.

Joe Attanasio·Senior Reporter
4 June 2024·4-min read

Thousands of Teslas are sitting idle at Australian ports as interest in electric vehicles stalls and new and more affordable options enter the Australian market. Aerial photos of a port in Melbourne highlight the dramatic shift as Teslas that once rolled off the assembly line to eager buyers now simply wait to find a home.

The aerial vision was captured by 7News with the network melodramatically referring to the scene as a "Tesla graveyard". However it does illustrate the changing gears of the Aussie EV market which has been full speed ahead in recent years.

Industry experts warn the slowing rise in sales is the result of a lack of proper infrastructure coupled with the fact that people are becoming more price conscious, particularly as more options hit the market. ...


Tesla was the  first EV off the mark, but now BYD offers better value EVs in the Oz market.

But indeed Oz will need to massively upgrade its EV charging infrastructure (and transition to state-subsidized renewables, including home batteries), if the EV market is to keep growing rapidly, as it is in China.   
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