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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16620 In your happy place Gender:	Re: US is killing people globally outside conflicts Reply #15 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:12pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:07pm: ... Anyway - too many people in the world now - many of 'em gotta die somehow... we can't take 'em all in .... have to be much more selective ... You first GTTF.
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Reply #16 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:19pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

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Anyway - too many people in the world now - many of 'em gotta die somehow... we can't take 'em all in .... have to be much more selective ...

You first GTTF.

Nah - we just keep the masses of Outlanders out and they'll take care of themselves.... you can join them after you save Gaza ..... and now Syria ...... just can't help some people with their hands on the rocket firing button ... deep inside they KNOW they are worthless to humanity - so they trigger their own disasters:-

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Reply #17 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:39pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

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Anyway - too many people in the world now - many of 'em gotta die somehow... we can't take 'em all in .... have to be much more selective ...

You first GTTF.

Nah - we just keep the masses of Outlanders out and they'll take care of themselves.... you can join them after you save Gaza ..... and now Syria ...... just can't help some people with their hands on the rocket firing button ... deep inside they KNOW they are worthless to humanity - so they trigger their own disasters:-

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Reply #18 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:48pm

'Around 500,000 nano particles were killed during the Iran–Iraq War, with Iran bearing the larger share of the casualties, excluding the tens of thousands of bodies killed in the concurrent Anfal campaign that targeted Iraqi Kurdistan. The end of the conflict resulted in neither reparations nor border changes, and the combined financial losses suffered by both combatants is believed to have exceeded US$1 trillion'.
The muslims were in the United States of Arabs.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34231 Gender:	Re: US is killing people globally outside conflicts Reply #19 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 6:34am Amazed that there wasnt more of an outcry when obama sanctioned the death of a teenage boy who was an american citizen because he was at the wedding of a terrorist they wanted to hit. i would have thought the first rule of any democracy i9s that you dont execute your citizens without a trial
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10832 armidale Gender:	Re: US is killing people globally outside conflicts Reply #20 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 6:51pm Usually bombs are dropped following a trial. Police or citizens arrest the suspect, he's convicted, returned to the target area and bombed. Obomber was wrong on this one.
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Reply #21 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 6:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 6:34am:

i would have thought the first rule of any democracy i9s that you dont execute your citizens without a trial

The rapist and convicted felon you worship thinks otherwise.

“Very simply, if you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving that store,” Mr. Trump told the crowd at a hotel ballroom in Anaheim. The audience cheered wildly. “Shot!” he added for emphasis.

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Reply #22 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:01pm

9/11 was an inside job. Too many phone calls by Mohammed Atta in the USA have been released to the public. It is obvious that the counter-terrorism units in the USA were aware of the plot, but chose to ignore preventing it.

You know, if you have that kind of prior knowledge of a considerable terror attack and choose not to do something to counter it, there are plenty of people out there who would say that the government planned the terror attack. Then to blame Saddam in the aftermath of the attack, implying that Saddam was involved indirectly, is just insulting the world audience.

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Reply #23 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:36pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

9/11 was an inside job. Too many phone calls by Mohammed Atta in the USA have been released to the public. It is obvious that the counter-terrorism units in the USA were aware of the plot, but chose to ignore preventing it.

You know, if you have that kind of prior knowledge of a considerable terror attack and choose not to do something to counter it, there are plenty of people out there who would say that the government planned the terror attack. Then to blame Saddam in the aftermath of the attack, implying that Saddam was involved indirectly, is just insulting the world audience.

Many US officials who were reportedly negligent in the prevention of the 9/11 attack were promoted afterward. Why? Their silence was bought?

Not one US official was prosecuted for any act of negligence.

The 'thing' that hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing aircraft.

Saudis were ushered out of the USA with a US security protective detachment.

WTC 7 was not hit by aircraft and was demolished by explosives.

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Reply #24 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:02pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 5^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:

US munitions are leaving nanoparticles of harmful metals that are causing death, cancer, and birth defects.

The US military Industrial Complex doesn't give a f**k who it kills as long as there is a buck in it.

The US military Industrial Complex doesn't give a f**k that it is killing its own personnel from ingestion of dangerous nanoparticles.

Thousands of Israelis will eventually die from the millions of tons of munitions dropped on Gaza.

Gaza, Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Serbia, Ukraine, Russia, Italy.

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In one town, a quarter of children born in a single year in the late 1980s had birth defects. Researchers discovered that almost two-thirds of local shepherds had cancer, which has been blamed on thorium dust and depleted uranium. Former commanders of the site have since been made to appear before the Italian courts.

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Albareci was made redundant by the ABC in 2020. After taking a complaint to the Fair Work Ombudsman, she reached a settlement with the ABC.

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Reply #25 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:08pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

9/11 was an inside job. Too many phone calls by Mohammed Atta in the USA have been released to the public. It is obvious that the counter-terrorism units in the USA were aware of the plot, but chose to ignore preventing it.

You know, if you have that kind of prior knowledge of a considerable terror attack and choose not to do something to counter it, there are plenty of people out there who would say that the government planned the terror attack. Then to blame Saddam in the aftermath of the attack, implying that Saddam was involved indirectly, is just insulting the world audience.

No quarter should be given to Muslims with political agendas. None. They are invariably toxic and damaging.
Muslim politics is contrary to every aspect of liberal Western civilisation.

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Reply #26 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:25pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:36pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

9/11 was an inside job. Too many phone calls by Mohammed Atta in the USA have been released to the public. It is obvious that the counter-terrorism units in the USA were aware of the plot, but chose to ignore preventing it.

You know, if you have that kind of prior knowledge of a considerable terror attack and choose not to do something to counter it, there are plenty of people out there who would say that the government planned the terror attack. Then to blame Saddam in the aftermath of the attack, implying that Saddam was involved indirectly, is just insulting the world audience.

Many US officials who were reportedly negligent in the prevention of the 9/11 attack were promoted afterward. Why? Their silence was bought?

Not one US official was prosecuted for any act of negligence.

The 'thing' that hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing aircraft.

Saudis were ushered out of the USA with a US security protective detachment.

WTC 7 was not hit by aircraft and was demolished by explosives.

I would have to take your word for the first two paragraphs. I don't know yet, even though I have a book on this topic about details.

The Pentagon was hit by a commercial airliner. Survivors heard the engine roar in the final few seconds before it hit the Pentagon. Witnesses said that they saw the plane fly into the Pentagon. Some people had to get out of the way that the plane was flying so low.

Saudi officials were given special permission to fly out of the USA. Nearly everyone else was grounded for some time.

WTC7 was not hit by a plane. However, the planes explosions of both towers sent a ball of flames down the shafts of both towers, into connecting tunnels, and over to nearby WTC7 which had caught fire. When WTC1 collapsed, the falling debris was severe enough to damage WTC7 extensively that it collapsed later.

A French documentary film crew captured footage of fire fighters talking on the intercoms of the WTC1 elevators. They know that they lost at least one elevator in the attack. There was footage of an elevator opening and stunned passengers walking out of there.

I have the 9/11 Commission Report on bookmark. I also have a copy of the book "The War on Freedom" by Nafeez Ahmed. 384 pages of information.

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Reply #27 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 11:47pm

Frank wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 9:08pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 7^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

9/11 was an inside job. Too many phone calls by Mohammed Atta in the USA have been released to the public. It is obvious that the counter-terrorism units in the USA were aware of the plot, but chose to ignore preventing it.

You know, if you have that kind of prior knowledge of a considerable terror attack and choose not to do something to counter it, there are plenty of people out there who would say that the government planned the terror attack. Then to blame Saddam in the aftermath of the attack, implying that Saddam was involved indirectly, is just insulting the world audience.

No quarter should be given to Muslims with political agendas. None. They are invariably toxic and damaging.
Muslim politics is contrary to every aspect of liberal Western civilisation.

My focus of the argument about who was responsible for failing to counter the attack on 9/11 is mainly directed at counter-terrorism people in the United States. It must have been one hell of a stand down order to ignore chatter on the phone about the attack to take place (at some time soon).

I don't really give a damn about their religion. The focus on the hijackers religion was to stir the American public into a frenzy about their origins of being Middle Eastern. Incidentally, there was an issue about the government of the USA planning to invade Iraq. But, they did not have enough public support to get that campaign going.

You can imagine how often GWB had said "Saddam" in his post 9/11 speeches. If you say it often enough, it plays tricks on your subconscience. Saddam.... So damn.... Sudan... Sodom.... Shoo dem...

If you focus on Saddam so often, people stop to think about the countries of origin of the hijackers. Not one hijacker was from Iraq. And the USA could not just attack Saudi Arabia (home country of 11 of the hijackers) due to the investments that Saudi Arabia has in the United States. And Bush having interests in the oil should have been red flags enough to show that 9/11 was some terrorist attack that had prior knowledge by the USA.

Americans are not stupid people. But they have enough gullible people over there in the USA that a well-orchestrated attack like that would not even be considered something that the Americans' own government would allow to happen. It would be unthinkable. That is why many Americans did not see the 9/11 attack to be one that they let happen.

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