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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #135 - Jul 29^th, 2024 at 10:36pm

According to Lichtman's keys, the most popular incumbent presidents (losing 3 or fewer keys) are:

Theodore Roosevelt - 0
Franklin D. Roosevelt - 1,2,2
Dwight D. Eisenhower - 1
Ronald Reagan -2
Abraham Lincoln -3
Ulysses S. Grant - 3
William McKinley -3
William Howard Taft -3
Woodrow Wilson -3
Herbert Hoover -3
Lyndon B. Johnson -3
George H. W. Bush -3
Barack Obama -3

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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #136 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 6:42am

Trump's speech in St Cloud. Minnesota is in keeping with expectations -

He voiced support for Israel.

Ranted about abortion and, of course, post-birth abortions - which he now calls executions - claiming Harris supports it.

Continued to conflate the border issue with, a teenage comical distortion, of the 1980 Mariel boatlift - thousands of patients from mental asylums from South American mental asylums making their way like zombies to the US border.

And, as weirdly hilarious as it can get: his obsession with crowd size, which is as genuinely a comedy act worthy as that of Borat at a Khasakhstani porn star competition ranting about the size of his khram.

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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #137 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 9:59am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 6:42am:

Trump's speech in St Cloud. Minnesota is in keeping with expectations -

He voiced support for Israel.

Ranted about abortion and, of course, post-birth abortions - which he now calls executions - claiming Harris supports it.

Continued to conflate the border issue with, a teenage comical distortion, of the 1980 Mariel boatlift - thousands of patients from mental asylums from South American mental asylums making their way like zombies to the US border.

And, as weirdly hilarious as it can get: his obsession with crowd size, which is as genuinely a comedy act worthy as that of Borat at a Khasakhstani porn star competition ranting about the size of his khram.

Any word on batteries, boats, windmills, and sharks?

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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #138 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 1:24pm

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 10:21am:

The Republicans and the Democrats currently both staunchly support Israel, so there is no room for Trump to hype pro-Palestine protests as a social unrest issue - hence his heavy focus on the southern border, and illegal immigration in general.

Of course, given his narcissistic obsession with catastrophising every issue, Trump will continue to overplay his hand on this- like conflating the current border issue with the Mariel boatlift of 1980.

Neither he nor Vance will risk touching on the root cause of the worst aspect of the southern border issue - Americans' obsession with cocaine.

Fentanyl. Child trafficking. Crime. Job losses. millions of illegals.

Not cocaine alone.

The US is not like it was in the 60s or 80s

We've been through all this countless times, old boy. The majority of fentanyl comes in through legal means - rednecks driving it in through San Ysidro.

Asylum seekers have a lower rate of offending to US citizens. Your crime problem is a load of old boots.

The US unemployment rate is 4.1% - lower than the long-term average of 5.6%. Not sure how many jobs are lost to illegals, but I'd say it's a pretty krappy job if it only pays cash and doesn't provide insurance. During covid, farmers were screaming out for the border to open up to get migrant labour back again, so in many jobs there's a labour shortage.

That leaves child trafficking, which I'm curious about. So, given you already know the above and you're just telling fibs, we'd like to know more about your kiddie trafficking problem.

In the words of your prophet, please explain?

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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #139 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 2:30pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 1:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 10:21am:

The Republicans and the Democrats currently both staunchly support Israel, so there is no room for Trump to hype pro-Palestine protests as a social unrest issue - hence his heavy focus on the southern border, and illegal immigration in general.

Of course, given his narcissistic obsession with catastrophising every issue, Trump will continue to overplay his hand on this- like conflating the current border issue with the Mariel boatlift of 1980.

Neither he nor Vance will risk touching on the root cause of the worst aspect of the southern border issue - Americans' obsession with cocaine.

Fentanyl. Child trafficking. Crime. Job losses. millions of illegals.

Not cocaine alone.

The US is not like it was in the 60s or 80s

We've been through all this countless times, old boy. The majority of fentanyl comes in through legal means - rednecks driving it in through San Ysidro.

Asylum seekers have a lower rate of offending to US citizens. Your crime problem is a load of old boots.

The US unemployment rate is 4.1% - lower than the long-term average of 5.6%. Not sure how many jobs are lost to illegals, but I'd say it's a pretty krappy job if it only pays cash and doesn't provide insurance. During covid, farmers were screaming out for the border to open up to get migrant labour back again, so in many jobs there's a labour shortage.

That leaves child trafficking, which I'm curious about. So, given you already know the above and you're just telling fibs, we'd like to know more about your kiddie trafficking problem.

In the words of your prophet, please explain?

Is he talking about this?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95203 Gender:	Re: The Keys to the White House Reply #140 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 6:35pm Ah. While the old boy froths away over illegals, the investigation into Matt Gaetz continues. What's the matter, dear boy? Cat got your tongue?
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11723 Gender:	Re: The Keys to the White House Reply #141 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 7:58pm While many clutch their pearls or lose their bottle over Trump's rants, what they're not getting is that Trump's schtick is primarily a comedy stand-up act. Trump made an oblique reference to this in his latest Minnesota speech. He is effectively an amalgam of Borat and George Costanza.
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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #142 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 7:58pm:

While many clutch their pearls or lose their bottle over Trump's rants, what they're not getting is that Trump's schtick is primarily a comedy stand-up act.

Trump made an oblique reference to this in his latest Minnesota speech.

He is effectively an amalgam of Borat and George Costanza.

What about the raping and the 34 criminal charges?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44366 Gender:	Re: The Keys to the White House Reply #143 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:19pm Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 6:35pm: Ah. While the old boy froths away over illegals, the investigation into Matt Gaetz continues. What's the matter, dear boy? Cat got your tongue? ONE Goetz versus 20 MILLION illegals.
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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #144 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 7:58pm:

While many clutch their pearls or lose their bottle over Trump's rants, what they're not getting is that Trump's schtick is primarily a comedy stand-up act.

Trump made an oblique reference to this in his latest Minnesota speech.

He is effectively an amalgam of Borat and George Costanza.

In his mind, I'd bet Trump is trying to channel the comedic charisma of Muhammed Ali during his lead-up interviews.

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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #145 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:35pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 1:24pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 11:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 29^th, 2024 at 10:21am:

The Republicans and the Democrats currently both staunchly support Israel, so there is no room for Trump to hype pro-Palestine protests as a social unrest issue - hence his heavy focus on the southern border, and illegal immigration in general.

Of course, given his narcissistic obsession with catastrophising every issue, Trump will continue to overplay his hand on this- like conflating the current border issue with the Mariel boatlift of 1980.

Neither he nor Vance will risk touching on the root cause of the worst aspect of the southern border issue - Americans' obsession with cocaine.

Fentanyl. Child trafficking. Crime. Job losses. millions of illegals.

Not cocaine alone.

The US is not like it was in the 60s or 80s

We've been through all this countless times, old boy. The majority of fentanyl comes in through legal means - rednecks driving it in through San Ysidro.

Asylum seekers have a lower rate of offending to US citizens. Your crime problem is a load of old boots.

The US unemployment rate is 4.1% - lower than the long-term average of 5.6%. Not sure how many jobs are lost to illegals, but I'd say it's a pretty krappy job if it only pays cash and doesn't provide insurance. During covid, farmers were screaming out for the border to open up to get migrant labour back again, so in many jobs there's a labour shortage.

That leaves child trafficking, which I'm curious about. So, given you already know the above and you're just telling fibs, we'd like to know more about your kiddie trafficking problem.

In the words of your prophet, please explain?

Less than half of them work.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/may/13/center-for-immigration-studies-...

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95203 Gender:	Re: The Keys to the White House Reply #146 - Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:45pm Oh, I see. So they don't steal your silly old jobs, is it? What's the matter, old boy, cat got your tongue? Can't even be bothered Googling your Heritage Foundation's report on trafficking kiddies?
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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #147 - Jul 31^st, 2024 at 3:39pm

The keys remain at 8-5.

Harris is still tentatively predicted to win and is increasingly more likely to win by a landslide.

Trump's 20 million illegals story is, of course, total horseshit. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants estimated to be in the United States after an accumulation of them over decades.

He will not succeed in turning the 'no social unrest' key with the border issue - hence his claims that a Harris administration plans to let all illegal immigrants who commit capital crimes out of jail.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136337 Gender:	Re: The Keys to the White House Reply #148 - Jul 31^st, 2024 at 4:50pm Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:45pm: Oh, I see. So they don't steal your silly old jobs, is it? He seems somewhat confused, again. Says they're taking all the jobs, yet now claims they haven't got jobs. Oh dear.
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Re: The Keys to the White House
Reply #149 - Jul 31^st, 2024 at 4:50pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 8:45pm:

Oh, I see. So they don't steal your silly old jobs, is it?

What's the matter, old boy, cat got your tongue?

Can't even be bothered Googling your Heritage Foundation's report on trafficking kiddies?

Well, as even the dumbest, dimmest 12 year old would instantly realise, illegal immigrants are cheaper to employ than locals as you have to pay taxes and social s security etc for the latter, not th ed former. So a job for an illegal is no job for a local, who can then go on the dole.

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