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Aussie model for peace in Ukraine
Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:36am

Australia's political model for achieving long lasting peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

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Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Reply #1 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:59am

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

Australia's political model for achieving long lasting peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

I think the proposal is very good. In that case, something like the Eurasian Commonwealth should be formed.

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16620 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine Reply #2 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:19pm The last thing USA wants is peace and unity. The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict. The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.
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Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Reply #3 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:47pm

Yeah - Penny Wongway wanted a 'Palestinian state' - now the Paycheck sheila demands one - it's off the table... Albo has spoken!!

So if you're a Chink and a Leso and a party favourite, it's OK - if you are Afghan and Musso it's no good.... hmmmmm ....

Maybe our 'government' of two parties needs to get itself sorted out in line with what the people want.....

Ukraine, you say? Well that dastardly Putin will do as he's told, or else!!! Wet Lettuce Leaves all round!!

No wonder that bloke in comments on some issue said we need a restriction of two terms for any 'politician' - FFS - this 'career' bullshit has ruined our country, and the real people can't get a look in for the 'parties'.... stop voting for them... there's a start. Wake up Australia!!

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Reply #4 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.

Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.

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Reply #5 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:07pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.

Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.

Capitosinora - you're dreaming.

Ukraine would never accept Putin as their King. Roll Eyes

Have you been smoking something?

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Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Reply #6 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:13pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces,

Putin would be excellent as the head of Ukraine's parliament. Policy would need 1 vote : V Putin. President Xi is the man to rule the White House. Charlie does Westminster.

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Reply #7 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:32pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

Australia's political model for achieving long lasting peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

This is not an Australian model. This is the Russian/CCP model - surrender to us or die. It has nothing to do with Australia. The stooges posted the exact same crap a few months ago.

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Reply #8 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 5:42pm

Look, Australia has a miin population and completely isolated.

Other than overslves no one on the world stage cares about Australia.

Australia has nothing of value to add to world affairs.

Unless told to by Biden. Perhaps Trump will fix it on his own and won't need " that guy from down Under underwhelming tiny limited help?'

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Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine
Reply #9 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:25pm

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.

Because poms and yanks didn't send 38 cruise missiles every night to hit the suburbs in Australia.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 771 Gender:	Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine Reply #10 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:27pm Exactly, it's just something Australia watching on YouTube.
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Reply #11 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 6:31pm

On February 24, 2022 Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that the goal of the “special military operation” was the “demilitarisation and denazification” of Ukraine. Putin called the main goal of the invasion “to protect people in Donbass from genocide.”

Demilitarization includes keeping NATO out of Ukraine but also destroying Ukraine military. While the war is on Ukraine can not become NATO member, and judging by new Ukraine unpopular mobilisation law, Ukraine's manpower is getting badly depleted as well.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10832 armidale Gender:	Re: Aussie model for for peace in Ukraine Reply #12 - Jul 6^th, 2024 at 7:14pm 3.5 to 5 million Ukrainians died under Stalin's policy to remove the independent nature of the country. East Europe could enjoy peace under the Kremlin but for some reason it chooses not to.
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Reply #13 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 10:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:07pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

The last thing USA wants is peace and unity.

The US has been acting against European unity since the Kosovo conflict.

The USA doesn't want EU unity, they want EU subservience.

Australia is an example of a very successful Anglo-British/American protectorate. Why Ukraine should not be a successful Slavic protectorate with long lasting peace.

Capitosinora - you're dreaming.

Ukraine would never accept Putin as their King. Roll Eyes

Have you been smoking something?

Well, apart from belittling others, do you have any other argument why you think Ukraine would never accept such a proposal. If Australia accepted being a British protectorate and the British monarch as head of state, despite the practical elimination of Australia's indigenous population, why wouldn't Ukraine do the same?

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Reply #14 - Jul 7^th, 2024 at 10:43am

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:

capitosinora wrote on Jul 6^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

Australia's political model for achieving long lasting peace in Ukraine

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
Recently, there have been many proposals by statesmen such as Trump, Orban, Putin or Zelensky on how to achieve peace in Ukraine.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

This is not an Australian model. This is the Russian/CCP model - surrender to us or die. It has nothing to do with Australia. The stooges posted the exact same crap a few months ago.

So you deny an indisputable fact about the Australian constitution? You don't even know where you live???

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