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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6389 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Culture: Chinese predates Western ~ 5000 years Reply #15 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 7:53pm Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 7:19pm: Perhaps, also for clarity, you could explain Chinese culture and it's history and roots to us so we can compare. Compare to what?
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Reply #16 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 7:57pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 6:13pm:

athos wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 12:14pm:

Unfortunately, Australia still has no such thing as a cultural identity. Basically, a penal colony like Australia has not needed culture, but good training, obedience and discipline. If you don't believe me, ask Mama Britain.
Unfortunately, Australia still has no such thing as a cultural identity. Basically, a penal colony like Australia does not need culture, but good training, obedience and discipline. If you don't believe me, ask Mama Britain.Teaching yobbos culture is like explaining calculus to cockroaches.

Nonsense.

Please elaborate on Australia's culture.

"Australia is spatially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant"
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Reply #17 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:01pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

"Taoist thought, considered a wellspring of Chinese culture, was systemized by the sage Lao Zi over 2,500 years ago in his book Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching)."

A book created 2500 years ago is not culture?

Homer, Herodotus, Plato, Aristotle etc date from 3000-2500 bc. FAR, FAR more impactflul on human development than China, India, Aborigines, Incas and Africans.

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Reply #18 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:13pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

"Taoist thought, considered a wellspring of Chinese culture, was systemized by the sage Lao Zi over 2,500 years ago in his book Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching)."

A book created 2500 years ago is not culture?

Homer, Herodotus, Plato, Aristotle etc date from 3000-2500 bc. FAR, FAR more impactflul on human development than China, India, Aborigines, Incas and Africans.

Let's not go too silly. Homer, if he was one person, wrote in about 800BC about wars and travels that happened about 400 years before, Aristotle was a teacher to Alexander the great, you know when he was doing his tour of duty. Herodotus was an historian a couple of centuries before Alexander and Plato was a philosopher from a little after Herodotus.

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Reply #19 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 12:45pm:

Australians are antithetic to culture.

Australians believe culture is for poofters and pussies.

So true. There is evidence for this.
Not only they have trivialized and destroyed authentic indigenous Australians and their culture, but the primitive Anglo Yobbos also hate any Aussie who rises above the level of a mediocre convict mentality to become a cultured person of high virtue and moral integrity. Anglo-barbarians hated and exiled Robert Hughes, Geoffrey Smart and Julian Assange. I suspect this is typical of the legacy of Britain's penal colonial status. Sad very barbarically sad.

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Reply #20 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:24pm

athos wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 12:45pm:

Australians are antithetic to culture.

Australians believe culture is for poofters and pussies.

So true. There is evidence for this.
Not only have they trivialized and destroyed authentic indigenous Australians and their culture, but the primitive Anglo Yobbos also hate any Aussie who rises above the level of a mediocre convict mentality to become a cultured person of high virtue and moral integrity. Anglo-barbarians hated and exiled Robert Hughes, Geoffrey Smart and Julian Assange. I suspect this is typical of the legacy of Britain's penal colonial status. Sad very barbarically sad.

Seems you prematurely ejaculated... Embarrassed

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Reply #21 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:28pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:24pm:

athos wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:19pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 12:45pm:

Australians are antithetic to culture.

Australians believe culture is for poofters and pussies.

So true. There is evidence for this.
Not only have they trivialized and destroyed authentic indigenous Australians and their culture, but the primitive Anglo Yobbos also hate any Aussie who rises above the level of a mediocre convict mentality to become a cultured person of high virtue and moral integrity. Anglo-barbarians hated and exiled Robert Hughes, Geoffrey Smart and Julian Assange. I suspect this is typical of the legacy of Britain's penal colonial status. Sad very barbarically sad.

Seems you prematurely ejaculated... Embarrassed

Here you just confirmed everything said with your "meaningful cultural dialogue"

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Reply #22 - Jul 11^th, 2024 at 9:06pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

"Taoist thought, considered a wellspring of Chinese culture, was systemized by the sage Lao Zi over 2,500 years ago in his book Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching)."

A book created 2500 years ago is not culture?

A book written 2,500 years ago does not predate Western Civilisation by more than 5000 years.

Perhaps you should tell us when both started so we have a common frame of reference?

At my lowest point, I will be far less common than Setanta.

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Reply #23 - Jul 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

"Taoist thought, considered a wellspring of Chinese culture, was systemized by the sage Lao Zi over 2,500 years ago in his book Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching)."

A book created 2500 years ago is not culture?

A book written 2,500 years ago does not predate Western Civilisation by more than 5000 years.

Perhaps you should tell us when both started so we have a common frame of reference?

At my lowest point, I will be far less common than Setanta.

You are full of shit though.

Laozi, 6th-century BC semi-legendary Chinese philosopher, founder of Taoism.

You were only out by 2 millenia. Grin

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Reply #24 - Jul 12^th, 2024 at 9:45am

Setanta wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

You are full of poo though.

Laozi, 6th-century BC semi-legendary Chinese philosopher, founder of Taoism.

You were only out by 2 millenia.

Setanta should be profusely thankful for being induced out of his torpor and being led to the educational opportunities of the internet.

This could be a life-changing experience for Setanta if it leads to the evolution of thought.

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Reply #25 - Jul 12^th, 2024 at 10:26am

Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 1:32pm:

"Taoist thought, considered a wellspring of Chinese culture, was systemized by the sage Lao Zi over 2,500 years ago in his book Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching)."

A book created 2500 years ago is not culture?

Homer, Herodotus, Plato, Aristotle etc date from 3000-2500 bc. FAR, FAR more impactflul on human development than China, India, Aborigines, Incas and Africans.

Let's not go too silly. Homer, if he was one person, wrote in about 800BC about wars and travels that happened about 400 years before, Aristotle was a teacher to Alexander the great, you know when he was doing his tour of duty. Herodotus was an historian a couple of centuries before Alexander and Plato was a philosopher from a little after Herodotus.

Yes, I meant 2500 3000 years ago.
500- 1000 bc.

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Reply #28 - Jul 12^th, 2024 at 2:59pm

tallowood wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 12:55pm:

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Laozi, 6th-century BC semi-legendary Chinese philosopher, founder of Taoism.

Some Chinese texts mention Lao Tsu leaving China via western gate.
Few decades later there was a man in Greece saying things remarkably similar to teaching of Lao Tzu.
Was it just a coincidence?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5017/BKbErH.png

No coincidence since they are not alike in any meaningful way.
To say they are remarkably similar is to say that one has no idea about either of them.

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Reply #29 - Jul 12^th, 2024 at 3:01pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 1:24pm:

English history began with the Roman occupation of the UK.

There is no evidence of a common language in the UK before the Roman occupation.

It can be argued that the Romans lifted the UK Aborigines from the stone age.

The English - Angles - came centuries after the Romans, you stupid little two bit screamer

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