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Reply #195 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 12:08am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 18^th, 2024 at 9:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

This is getting as bad as the JFK assassination.
We still don't know what happened there after over 60 years.
1,800 documents still remain classified.

Two snipers: Lee Harvey Oswald, and an unknown sniper who got away in a dark coloured 1950s/1960s Oldsmobile (sedan). Oswald in the book depository. The other sniper at the fenceline.

Oswald fired the first and third shot. One miss. One hit against JFK.

Unknown shooter fired the second and fourth shot. Supposedly fired the fatal shot against JFK. Probably hit/wounded the governor. Unknown shooter had blond hair, with a beatnik hairstyle.

Others involved in the assassination were a secret service agent. Jackie Onassis also had prior knowledge of the assassination plot. Allegedly, she wanted to ride around in a more secure limosine with roof and windows up. JFK said no.

I know this information because my great-uncle Jim (a WW2 RAAF serviceman) had a friend in Dallas at the time who saw part of the assassination. That friend had friends who had their own vantage points in the area. They collaborated their information and gave their own version of events. My (great) uncle Jim heard the story. He accepted their version of events. He told his son (my second-cousin) the story. My second cousin told the story at a family get together.

Nah - remember John Connally in the seat in front of JFK and the angle at which he was turned when struck by a through and through entering left rear of chest and exiting right nipple... came from the left of the motorcade clearly. You can see his cheeks blow out at the moment he is hit. If there was one behind, and one on the left - full triangulation indicates one on the grassy knoll.

The big question is - who changed the motorcade route to put JFK in that exact spot?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84919 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Assassination attempt on Trump? Reply #196 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 12:42am Back to JFK - tell me again how Connally was shot through the chest, right side to left, from behind that car...
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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #198 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:59am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 12:08am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 18^th, 2024 at 9:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 18^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

This is getting as bad as the JFK assassination.
We still don't know what happened there after over 60 years.
1,800 documents still remain classified.

Two snipers: Lee Harvey Oswald, and an unknown sniper who got away in a dark coloured 1950s/1960s Oldsmobile (sedan). Oswald in the book depository. The other sniper at the fenceline.

Oswald fired the first and third shot. One miss. One hit against JFK.

Unknown shooter fired the second and fourth shot. Supposedly fired the fatal shot against JFK. Probably hit/wounded the governor. Unknown shooter had blond hair, with a beatnik hairstyle.

Others involved in the assassination were a secret service agent. Jackie Onassis also had prior knowledge of the assassination plot. Allegedly, she wanted to ride around in a more secure limosine with roof and windows up. JFK said no.

I know this information because my great-uncle Jim (a WW2 RAAF serviceman) had a friend in Dallas at the time who saw part of the assassination. That friend had friends who had their own vantage points in the area. They collaborated their information and gave their own version of events. My (great) uncle Jim heard the story. He accepted their version of events. He told his son (my second-cousin) the story. My second cousin told the story at a family get together.

Nah - remember John Connally in the seat in front of JFK and the angle at which he was turned when struck by a through and through entering left rear of chest and exiting right nipple... came from the left of the motorcade clearly. You can see his cheeks blow out at the moment he is hit. If there was one behind, and one on the left - full triangulation indicates one on the grassy knoll.

The big question is - who changed the motorcade route to put JFK in that exact spot?

Ted Cruz's father? Undecided

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #199 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 11:28am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 12:42am:

Back to JFK - tell me again how Connally was shot through the chest, right side to left, from behind that car...

I have not made a great deal of research on the topic (other than watching my 10 hour long DVD series on JFK's assassination conspiracies). So, I am not too well-versed on the subject. However, witness accounts (including that of my great-uncle's American friend) state that they heard gunshots from two different areas. The book depository for one area. The fenceline was the other point where a second sniper was positioned. As to any other gunmen, I don't know about that.

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #200 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 12:18pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 14^th, 2024 at 9:28am:

The NY Post is a well-known media supporter of Trump.

Murdoch is notoriously predictable in backing the favourite.
This way he can say to any incoming government ...

"My media delivered you government, so now you OWE me"

He did this with Tont Abbott in their infamous, secret Sydney breakfast. He promised to deliver government to Abbott - if Abbot promised to hobble the NBA - protecting Murdoch's cable TV interests in Australia.

BOTH sides got all they asked for
- following a "gentlemen's" handshake

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105797 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Assassination attempt on Trump? Reply #202 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 7:32pm There is something a bit strange in this video. Why is there no blood on Trump's hands after he touched his ear?
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Reply #203 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 8:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

There is something a bit strange in this video.

Why is there no blood on Trump's hands after he touched his ear?

Good question, Bobby.

From his embarrassing RNC speech today:

He recalled the moment he turned his head to look at a chart on a screen to his right, and heard a loud whizzing sound before feeling something hit him "really, really hard" on his right ear. Then, he said, there was blood, "just absolutely blood all over the place".

But there wasn't. There was no blood at all.

The blood only appeared after he spent 60 seconds or so on the floor obscured by half a dozen Secret Service Agents, a lectern, and a metre high barrier at the front of stage.

Why did he lie about the blood, Bobby?

I'm curious.

And why are there no photos of the ear?

Why no medical report from the treating doctor?

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #204 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 9:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

There is something a bit strange in this video.

Why is there no blood on Trump's hands after he touched his ear?
The view is from the left, the right ;ear was where he.was hit, perhaps he thought better of toughing the painful ear, the first few seconds after the hit are painful, then the body’s defences cut in

Good question, Bobby.

From his embarrassing RNC speech today:

He recalled the moment he turned his head to look at a chart on a screen to his right, and heard a loud whizzing sound before feeling something hit him "really, really hard" on his right ear. Then, he said, there was blood, "just absolutely blood all over the place".

But there wasn't. There was no blood at all.

The blood only appeared after he spent 60 seconds or so on the floor obscured by half a dozen Secret Service Agents, a lectern, and a metre high barrier at the front of stage. how can you tell there was no blood as, as you said, he was out of sight?

Why did he lie about the blood, Bobby?

I'm curious.

And why are there no photos of the ear? there are

Why no medical report from the treating doctor? because he probably doesn’t think one is necessary

How about the other shots, the dead bloke and the wounded, do you think they really happened?

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #205 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 9:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Good question, Bobby.

From his embarrassing RNC speech today:

He recalled the moment he turned his head to look at a chart on a screen to his right, and heard a loud whizzing sound before feeling something hit him "really, really hard" on his right ear. Then, he said, there was blood, "just absolutely blood all over the place".

But there wasn't. There was no blood at all.

The blood only appeared after he spent 60 seconds or so on the floor obscured by half a dozen Secret Service Agents, a lectern, and a metre high barrier at the front of stage.

Why did he lie about the blood, Bobby?

I'm curious.

And why are there no photos of the ear?

Why no medical report from the treating doctor?

Trump said in his speech today that his hands were covered in blood.
Something is wrong with the story. Undecided

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #206 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 7:32pm:

There is something a bit strange in this video.

Why is there no blood on Trump's hands after he touched his ear?

There is blood on his thumb and finger as well as his ear and face.

Need to zoom in this one to see the blood on his fingers:

You can see blood on his forefinger when zoomed in:

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #207 - Jul 19^th, 2024 at 10:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Good question, Bobby.

From his embarrassing RNC speech today:

He recalled the moment he turned his head to look at a chart on a screen to his right, and heard a loud whizzing sound before feeling something hit him "really, really hard" on his right ear. Then, he said, there was blood, "just absolutely blood all over the place".

But there wasn't. There was no blood at all.

The blood only appeared after he spent 60 seconds or so on the floor obscured by half a dozen Secret Service Agents, a lectern, and a metre high barrier at the front of stage.

Why did he lie about the blood, Bobby?

I'm curious.

And why are there no photos of the ear?

Why no medical report from the treating doctor?

Trump said in his speech today that his hands were covered in blood.
Something is wrong with the story. Undecided

Yes Bobby. He lied.

The video clearly shows there was no blood on his hands.

Moreover, there are no photos of the injury and no medical report.

The maxi-pad over his ear is covering the truth. Will he eventually remove the sanitary pad and show everyone his injury?

Will he say: "It's healed perfectly. Miraculously, there's no sign that the bullet ever pierced my ear"?

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Reply #208 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 5:42am

its interesting talking about the fbi assassination of JFK , that biden has denied robert kennedy ANY security whatsoever.

it is also very odd that dozens of videos have emerged of people in the crowd filming the shooter and also yelling at security to take action

and we now know that he was in their scopes for 2 minutes with no shoot order.

and all this from just over 100 yards .

i think they did want trump taken out.

they missed by about a cm

it is a sort of miracle and it would be intersting to see the country had they not missed.

will they try again

i think they have to.

the left and the people in the halls of power who think trump is going to be a loose cannon are out of options

kennedy was anti war and he paid the price

trump is going to end the grift of the military industrial complex and they are very powerful people.

all of this was quite predictable

and if killing trump causes a sort of civil war, do you think the FBI and military industrial complex will not be crying tears of joy ?

surely no one is that naive Embarrassed

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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #209 - Jul 20^th, 2024 at 9:50am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 5:42am:

its interesting talking about the fbi assassination of JFK , that biden has denied robert kennedy ANY security whatsoever.

it is also very odd that dozens of videos have emerged of people in the crowd filming the shooter and also yelling at security to take action

and we now know that he was in their scopes for 2 minutes with no shoot order.

and all this from just over 100 yards .

i think they did want trump taken out.

they missed by about a cm

it is a sort of miracle and it would be intersting to see the country had they not missed.

will they try again

i think they have to.

the left and the people in the halls of power who think trump is going to be a loose cannon are out of options

kennedy was anti war and he paid the price

trump is going to end the grift of the military industrial complex and they are very powerful people.

all of this was quite predictable

and if killing trump causes a sort of civil war, do you think the FBI and military industrial complex will not be crying tears of joy ?

surely no one is that naive Embarrassed

Bullshit!!!

Quote:

Biden orders Secret Service to protect RFK Jr. after attempt on Trump’s life

https://apnews.com/article/biden-election-rfk-baf2281a888d736a50d78a3ae4188521

A lone gunman tried to assasinate Trump and the Republican run convention and security were inept........MAGA wankers make a lot of claims but never back it up with any evidence.....Were is your evidence there was a conspiracy to assasinate Trump....Who are they and how did you identify them....We will wait for proof not pathetic opinions!!!

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Misinformation Swirls After Attempted Assassination

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/misinformation-swirls-after-attempted-assassin...

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