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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #90 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:43am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2024 at 7:58pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 15th, 2024 at 7:20pm:
Didn't they think to use a surveilance drone ?


Budget cuts.

They need two SS agents full-time in the back of The Beast for diaper changes.

So, they had to take some money from 'Drones' and reassign it to 'Dookies'.

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Looks to me as if he’s wearing body armour.
But then I have some experience at wearing body armour and old men’s necessities and the thing for urine leaks is a sort of cotton and gauze  ‘condom’.
Which as yet I’m fortunately not in need of.
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Reply #91 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:56am
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 8:36am:
Biden saved Trumps life, due to rampant inflation the shooter couldn't afford a decent hunting rifle and scope.



That's true - I'm no expert on firearms but an AR-15 was never meant as a sniper's rifle -
but still at only 130 metres distance it was quite plausible to hit the target -
in fact - he only missed by one inch. 
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Reply #92 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 12:05pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 8:36am:
Biden saved Trumps life, due to rampant inflation the shooter couldn't afford a decent hunting rifle and scope.


"Inflation continued to retreat in June, according to the government's Consumer Price Index (CPI) report on Thursday morning, with the June rate coming in at a negative 0.1% pace against forecasts for a gain of 0.1% and May's 0.0% read."
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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #93 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 12:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 8:36am:
Biden saved Trumps life, due to rampant inflation the shooter couldn't afford a decent hunting rifle and scope.


"Inflation continued to retreat in June, according to the government's Consumer Price Index (CPI) report on Thursday morning, with the June rate coming in at a negative 0.1% pace against forecasts for a gain of 0.1% and May's 0.0% read."


I think we can take the original comment you replied to as a joke.

We know Trump was handed a recovering economy from Obama and pretty much had to do nothing.  What actions he did take slowed the recovery and by the time Biden was sworn in, the economy was still falling after the pandemic and Trump influences.

This is why they only ever focused on "the stock market" and not GDP and other figures that impact the actual people on the ground when boasting about how well Trump was doing.

Biden and the Dems have had to put in a lot of work to keep things improving and recovering, but with the whole world facing a post pandemic inflation crisis it doesn't make times any less tough for the people on the ground.
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Re: Assassination attempt on Trump?
Reply #94 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 9:37pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 7:31am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 3:30am:
tallowood wrote on Jul 15th, 2024 at 8:14am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2024 at 6:09am:
130 meters away, the sniper was from Trump. The assassin could not hit an ego that massive. It seems as though he was instructed not to hit Trump.


Look at Crooks glasses.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/122/azn0tb.png


What is your point? I either take my glasses off or look over them down the scope, too, when firing a rifle.


There was no scope and  Crooks didn't take his glasses off. You are a experienced shooter, Crooks wasn't.
So there no surprise that he missed at this distance.


Using an AR-15 at a distance of 130 metres, Crooks could have wounded Mr Trump. But he did not in those 3 or more shots he allegedly fired. Admittedly, having never fired an AR-15 in my life, I don't know how accurate are those rifles.

I am not an experienced shooter. It must have been about 20 years since I last picked up a rifle. It must also be nearly 27 years since I fired a sniper rifle at a distance of 1000 metres at a clay target (the size of a dinner plate) and hitting it.

What I do know, in my brief attempt at marksman training, is that Crooks would have needed to have been a distracted shooter to have missed from a short distance. For all I know, if he knew he was going to die that day, hypothetically, he should have walked up to the shed (and not climbed on the roof) and taken a number of shots from the ground. Not that I am condoning anyone ever do that. Then, with his primary target down, he could have either attempted to evade capture, or he could have shot it out with the police snipers (standing up) who were themselves vulnerable. Again, I am not saying that anyone should shoot at the police. Being a lone gunman, I would need a reliable getaway vehicle.

Oh, and with COVID protocols probably still in place, he would mask up and have decent sunglasses on for that sunny day. A change of shoes. Perhaps even wear some gloves so that no fingerprints or shoeprints were left behind. And who does not love a good haircut as a reward for a job completed? Wash that colour out, too.
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Reply #95 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 10:34pm
 
Trump was incredibly lucky.

Poor old Corey was not. Corey copped one in the head and would have died "instantly".

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Reply #96 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:19pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
tallowood wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 7:31am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 3:30am:
tallowood wrote on Jul 15th, 2024 at 8:14am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15th, 2024 at 6:09am:
130 meters away, the sniper was from Trump. The assassin could not hit an ego that massive. It seems as though he was instructed not to hit Trump.


Look at Crooks glasses.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/122/azn0tb.png


What is your point? I either take my glasses off or look over them down the scope, too, when firing a rifle.


There was no scope and  Crooks didn't take his glasses off. You are a experienced shooter, Crooks wasn't.
So there no surprise that he missed at this distance.


Using an AR-15 at a distance of 130 metres, Crooks could have wounded Mr Trump. But he did not in those 3 or more shots he allegedly fired. Admittedly, having never fired an AR-15 in my life, I don't know how accurate are those rifles.

I am not an experienced shooter. It must have been about 20 years since I last picked up a rifle. It must also be nearly 27 years since I fired a sniper rifle at a distance of 1000 metres at a clay target (the size of a dinner plate) and hitting it.

What I do know, in my brief attempt at marksman training, is that Crooks would have needed to have been a distracted shooter to have missed from a short distance. For all I know, if he knew he was going to die that day, hypothetically, he should have walked up to the shed (and not climbed on the roof) and taken a number of shots from the ground. Not that I am condoning anyone ever do that. Then, with his primary target down, he could have either attempted to evade capture, or he could have shot it out with the police snipers (standing up) who were themselves vulnerable. Again, I am not saying that anyone should shoot at the police. Being a lone gunman, I would need a reliable getaway vehicle.

Oh, and with COVID protocols probably still in place, he would mask up and have decent sunglasses on for that sunny day. A change of shoes. Perhaps even wear some gloves so that no fingerprints or shoeprints were left behind. And who does not love a good haircut as a reward for a job completed? Wash that colour out, too.


I have fired AR15 and M16s

AR15 has 2-3 MOA (minute of angle) accuracy with reasonable ammo at 100 yards which means the bullet will go within 2-3 inches of where you aim. At 150 yards it will be within 3-4.5 inches of aim point.
That is not taking into account crosswind how much did he miss by?

To hit a dinner plate at 1000 yards consistanly a 1 MOA accuracy rifle which is pretty good you will be shooting at least 10 inch groups at that distance if there is no wind if you have scope dialled in properly.

Laser rangefinders are common these days many people overestimate the distance they're shooting at.
Use Google earth to measure 1000M or yards from your front door it's a long way to shoot.

He had a death wish he wasn't getting out of there alive he wouldn't have made it to his vehicle.


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Reply #97 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:31pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 10:34pm:
Trump was incredibly lucky.

Poor old Corey was not. Corey copped one in the head and would have died "instantly".



The AR15 is underpowered for pig shooting in Australia the .223 Rem/ 5.56 Nato is too small.

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Equipment required
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• Large calibre, high velocity centre-fire rifles fitted with a telescopic sight must be used.
The minimum firearm and ammunition requirements for the ground shooting of feral
pigs are:

⭕ calibre: .243 inches
⭕ bullet weight: 80 grain
⭕ muzzle energy: 1819 (ft-lbs).

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The AR15 .223 Rem/5.56 Nato doesn't make it bullet weights too light not enough muzzle energy for pig shooting.

The AR10 in .308W or 7.62 Nato would be Ok for pig shooting. Not a popular gun many don't like the recoil so they go with smaller Ar15

The ammo used in Ar15s isn't that powerfull.

The sniper who shot this kid used .300 win magnum.

I use 7mm-08 for Pig/Fox/Goat shooting.

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Reply #98 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:40pm
 
Point being, the rounds are supersonic so by the time the shots were fired (I think the shooter got off about 3 shots?) all within a couple of seconds and the sound of them reaching the crowd ... I reckon it was all over for poor old Corey before he knew it.

The bullets used were enough to kill poor old Corey "instantly". His blood covered a lot in the crowd and there was a hell of a lot of blood.  Sad
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Reply #99 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:49pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:40pm:
Point being, the rounds are supersonic so by the time the shots were fired (I think the shooter got off about 3 shots?) all within a couple of seconds and the sound of them reaching the crowd ... I reckon it was all over for poor old Corey before he knew it.

The bullets used were enough to kill poor old Corey "instantly". His blood covered a lot in the crowd and there was a hell of a lot of blood.  Sad


I have reports of him shooting 8 shots before they shot him.
Killed 1 wounded 2 and nicked Trump.

Corey covered his family so he wasn't hit with first shots he heard them. The others might have been covered in blood from futile effort at first aid one responder was a doctor who said his brain was blown out.

The old sniper saying is If you heard it i wasn't aiming for you as bullet travels faster than speed of sound.

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Reply #100 - Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:59pm
 
I reckon I heard 3 shots from the shooter, then a pause and many shots of returned fire towards the shooter.

Corey was dead before he had time to shield anyone.
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Reply #101 - Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:12am
 
Coreys wife said he shielded her and their kids.

The offender fired 8 shots the last 2-3 were from snipers.

Secret service sniper was interviewed said they didn't need authority to shoot. The problem was snipers were local police who did need permission to shoot first. A huge stuff up on many aspects.

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Reply #102 - Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:17am
 
I reckon he fell on her and the kids.

Have we had confirmation of the number of shots fired from the shooter yet?

Any reliable source?
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Reply #103 - Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:25am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:49pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 16th, 2024 at 11:40pm:
Point being, the rounds are supersonic so by the time the shots were fired (I think the shooter got off about 3 shots?) all within a couple of seconds and the sound of them reaching the crowd ... I reckon it was all over for poor old Corey before he knew it.

The bullets used were enough to kill poor old Corey "instantly". His blood covered a lot in the crowd and there was a hell of a lot of blood.  Sad


I have reports of him shooting 8 shots before they shot him.
Killed 1 wounded 2 and nicked Trump.

Corey covered his family so he wasn't hit with first shots he heard them. The others might have been covered in blood from futile effort at first aid one responder was a doctor who said his brain was blown out.

The old sniper saying is If you heard it i wasn't aiming for you as bullet travels faster than speed of sound.

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Support For Butler PA Victims - President Trump Authorized


$4,773,758 USD raised of $1,000,000 goal

https://www.gofundme.com/f/president-trump-seeks-support-for-butler-pa-victims



Not a cent from the gofundme appeal will go to the victims.

It will all end up in Trump's bank account.

He stole money from kids' cancer charities, FFS - you think he's gonna let that money go to anyone else but himself?

Lol    Grin
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Reply #104 - Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:35am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 17th, 2024 at 12:17am:
I reckon he fell on her and the kids.

Have we had confirmation of the number of shots fired from the shooter yet?

Any reliable source?


Here is a video listen and count the shots

https://x.com/thogge/status/1812271717869670471
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