Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 4:21pm:


At least you've not denied using the racial slurs and all your calls for genocide and segregation, but you want to reframe them from your mask slipping to "I was just joking"?

Really?

So you want to be taken seriously, feigning all these concerns for indigenous women and children being victims of violence, after you joke about killing them all and wiping them from existence?

Well, which is it?  In one breath you claim to treat them as a topic of humour, joking about ethnically cleansing them, but at the same time you're concerned for their safety?

Really?

Proper education in simple realities..... all those precious teachings from a sheila-controlled education system are bearing rotten fruit and all of it low hanging.  Princesses - you see...

Now just play with yourselves for a while - I've got a few things to do....

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 20^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:



No.. I'm attacking you because I don't like you ... you self loathing misguided virtue signaling POS.

If anyone should phukk off/retire it should be you.

You posts are a complete waste of copying/pasting & typing effort.

You believe absolute fantasy & bollocks when it come to Aboriginal issues ....

you couldn't lie straight in bed you old nonce.

... sufficient yawning emoticons to make a full wall ....

You are off the planet, Brian - no Aboriginal Australian suffers because of anything I hold to or support.... they mostly suffer becuase they refuse to get in line with everyone else and continue to demand what they cannot have .... and sometimes they get it due to stupid politicians.

You see, son - that doesn't make it right or even lawful .... and all such private deals will be overturned in due course.  they need to get on board with the things that will actually do them some good instead of attacking the rights of others to free use of Open Range and National Park land.

As usual you've got it all backwards.

Show me one Aborigine who 'suffers' from not being out there hunting on 'their' land... show me how their having the right to shared free and equal usage of public land plus traditional things is somehow restricting them from the use of Open Range land .... show me one who is being told he or she cannot access public land... show me one who is being told they cannot carry on their traditional things on public land as long as it is legal.... show me one other group that has some 'right' to say they own everything they can see because their ancestors once went to the shops in town on a hunting for food expedition or even does so now - a drive into town to hunt for food at the shops would yield me possession of lakes and mountains and rivers and land in massive quantities ..... show me another group that is handed millions of dollars to pursue these vacuous claims ....

It's way past time to put such childish and outdated things to bed.

Now explain to us all what these  nasty ideals that I hold to are - in your mind.  Once more - lay it all out for us....

Shape up or ship out ..............

So, grasshoppers - what have we learned today?

1.  Show me one Aborigine who 'suffers' from not being out there hunting for food on 'their' land...

show me how their having the right to shared free and equal usage of public land plus traditional things is somehow restricting them from the use of Open Range land ....

show me one who is being told he or she cannot access public land...

show me one who is being told they cannot carry on their traditional things on public land as long as it is legal....

show me one other group that has some 'right' to say they own everything they can see because their ancestors once went to the shops in town on a hunting for food expedition or even does so now - a drive into town to hunt for food at the shops would yield me possession of lakes and mountains and rivers and land in massive quantities ..... though the neighbours etc might object to my ownership of it on that basis ..... same as my claiming all lands my ancestors have traveled over in the past....

show me another group that is handed millions of dollars to pursue these vacuous claims ....


2.  it is clear that the way the voice was advertised is totally in conflict with the truth of its planned activities... shown clearly by the 'prime minister' saying that it would take a brave government to say NO to its 'advice'; by one of those paid to push it saying they would punish politicians who didn't do as they were told by it; and in the Uluru Statement where it says that a voice without power would be useless ......... and so it is most important NOW that the Voice By Stealth be stopped in its tracks, too. 

That should be enough for the smarter ones to think on until tomorrow..... I wonder how long it will be before these views and expressions find their way into main stream media .... people read here you know...

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:


Have you ever looked yourself in the mirror, Bryan, and thought about how left-wing, liberal you have gotten these days? This woke, virtue-signaling that you are performing is just getting out of hand. I mean, you are not as ultra left-wing as Bb from 20 years ago. But, you surely push the limits of credibility where supporting indigenous rights are concerned.

Could I offer you advice and tell you to ease up on the ultra woke persona? At the very least make the occasional concession, even to Grappler, once in a while. He means well.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 6:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 2:49pm:



The simple fact is that no one is disadvantaged just because they are Indigenous.
...

Colonisation happened and was always going to happen. It brought things like democracy, freedom and prosperity that were not known to Indigenous people.

To the extent that progressives continue to blame “colonisation”, what they really mean is they want to keep up their resistance to real reconciliation and integration. They would rather keep their policies of separatism and paternalism and dress them up in academic language than solve the real problems. If we really do want to heed the lessons of our history there are only two ways forward.

First, we can continue along the separatist road that sees Indigenous Australians as irrevocably damaged by settlement and wants to keep Aboriginal culture stuck in time like a museum piece. Traditional culture is romanticised by those who do not live it, while reinvention of culture has become an industry in the name of reconciliation for the purpose of political influence. This movement aims to keep Indigenous Australians on country, where they are land rich, but dirt poor.

This way forward leaves negative parts of Indigenous culture alone to grow and fester. Things like violent cultural payback, arranged marriage and apportioning tragedies and mishaps to sorcery, all of which are anathema to modern culture.

This is a view that lowers standards for Indigenous Australians. It attributes language and practices to some groups that do not belong to them, as a way of building up the victimising feeling that “things were taken away”.

This has been the strategy of decades of government agencies and academic activists, and yet they fail to draw the obvious connection between this approach and the failure to make much ground on Closing the Gap.

We need a second way: the advancement movement. Under this movement, we are all Australians. We can learn and cherish our Indigenous culture while still meeting the same standards that every other Australian is expected to meet.

Our culture will be respected like never before when Indigenous Australians are making it thrive under their own steam and not as part of a welfare industry. That culture will become part of our national tapestry, rather than a separate story to be fought over.
Jacinta Price


Everyone is aware of the plight of the 20% of the 3%.
Everyone also knows that it is not because of their skin colour or insufficient land rights or inadequate benefit payments.