UnSub, there is nothing, "Woke" about what I post.  Indeed your effort to classify me as "woke" is insulting.  I am aware of the plight of many Indigenous Australians, nothing more,  far more than it seems Graps and Gnads are.  They just want to insult people all the time.  You, act more "woke" than I am.  I am well aware of the problems Queenslanders inflict on Indigenous Australians all the time.  They dislike their basic skin colour, they dislike their bids for land rights and they dislike the benefits they are paid.  Time you woke up to yourselve and your society.  Joh is dead and buried. His days are long gone, thankfully.  His crooked Government is no more.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 2:49pm:



The simple fact is that no one is disadvantaged just because they are Indigenous.
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Colonisation happened and was always going to happen. It brought things like democracy, freedom and prosperity that were not known to Indigenous people.

To the extent that progressives continue to blame “colonisation”, what they really mean is they want to keep up their resistance to real reconciliation and integration. They would rather keep their policies of separatism and paternalism and dress them up in academic language than solve the real problems. If we really do want to heed the lessons of our history there are only two ways forward.

First, we can continue along the separatist road that sees Indigenous Australians as irrevocably damaged by settlement and wants to keep Aboriginal culture stuck in time like a museum piece. Traditional culture is romanticised by those who do not live it, while reinvention of culture has become an industry in the name of reconciliation for the purpose of political influence. This movement aims to keep Indigenous Australians on country, where they are land rich, but dirt poor.

This way forward leaves negative parts of Indigenous culture alone to grow and fester. Things like violent cultural payback, arranged marriage and apportioning tragedies and mishaps to sorcery, all of which are anathema to modern culture.

This is a view that lowers standards for Indigenous Australians. It attributes language and practices to some groups that do not belong to them, as a way of building up the victimising feeling that “things were taken away”.

This has been the strategy of decades of government agencies and academic activists, and yet they fail to draw the obvious connection between this approach and the failure to make much ground on Closing the Gap.

We need a second way: the advancement movement. Under this movement, we are all Australians. We can learn and cherish our Indigenous culture while still meeting the same standards that every other Australian is expected to meet.

Our culture will be respected like never before when Indigenous Australians are making it thrive under their own steam and not as part of a welfare industry. That culture will become part of our national tapestry, rather than a separate story to be fought over.
Jacinta Price


Everyone is aware of the plight of the 20% of the 3%.
Everyone also knows that it is not because of their skin colour or insufficient land rights or inadequate benefit payments.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 2:49pm:


Whoah-whoah... hold on here. Let us not get too out of hand with these woke accusations. No second prizes, Brian. Actual "woke" people are the type of people who tend to virtue-signal. I don't virtue-signal. I treat them the way that I expect them to treat me.

No white supremacist that I have ever met -- given that I live in Rockhampton, there have been quite a few -- has ever hated someone else because of their racial background. Last year, we had what I would term a "neighbourhood watch" of people driving around town making known that the residents are sick of the car thefts. Most car thieves happen to be of the First Nations ethnicity around here. Why is that, Brian?

The very fact that you think Queenslanders inflict damage on Indigenous Australians "all the time" simply shows how out of touch you are with Qld. There is a list of service that indigenous Australians in Central Queensland get that are not available to the non-indigenous population in general.

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/australian-health-services/search/rockhampton-47...

https://www.mycommunitydirectory.com.au/Queensland/Rockhampton/Aboriginal_Servic...

Part of my future career will be to work with and help indigenous co-workers and clients. I find it outrageous that you think Qld would have such low standards. *tsk, tsk*. But, what would you know. Your only interaction with indigenous people in Perth would be to watching them having fights with the imported Africans. Or maybe you drove through Kalgoorlie once. Who knows?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 21^st, 2024 at 4:10pm:


I am not sure why you single out Perth for attention, UnSub.  I haven't lived there for quite a few years.  The place is full of South Africans and Rhodesians, who all miss the good old days.   However that is an aside.  I have visited Kalgoorlie several times, what a hole it is (pun intended).  Queensland has always struck me as being behind the times.  Not as bad as under Joh, now you just have to set your watch 10 years behind, rather than 20 as you did under Joh.  I do not consider myself as "Woke" simple because I am aware of how hard Indigenous Australians have it for the most part from the likes of ..............  You're not as bad as they are but you are a Queenslander.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... 

A person who retaliates to being called stupid names himself when trying to discuss things reasonably.  You could try it some time, girlie.

Now when we get all the real issues sorted out and everyone is on the same page of accepting that facts and realities are not 'racist' etc - we might be able to move forward... but jeez - aren't you lot each individually bogged down?  Take a look at yourself - on and on and never accept anything - you DO have 'issues', don't you?

Which of these are you prepared to say are not true and/or are racist?

Valid Belief 1:-  The NT Coroner stated that between 2000 and 2024, 76 out of 81 deaths of women in relationship situations were in Aboriginal communities.  That's nearly 95% from around 30% of the total population.


Valid Belief 2:-  Aboriginal children are at far greater risk than any other group in Australia.... somewhere around 40%.   Proof:-

https://www.indigenoushpf.gov.au/measures/2-12-child-protection

“Over the period from 2017–18 to 2021–22, there was no clear trend in the rate of substantiated maltreatments among First Nations children (aged under 18), with rates ranged between 38.7 per 1,000 children in 2017–18 to 39.8 per 1,000 children in 2021–22.”



Valid Belief 3:-  Aboriginal women are far more likely to be victims of violence.

https://nit.com.au/30-04-2024/11126/murder-of-indigenous-women-a-national-crisis
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"the homicide rate for Indigenous women was 3.07 per 100,000 people, compared to 0.45 for non-Indigenous women."

https://www.indigenoushpf.gov.au/measures/2-10-community-safety

"Rates of hospitalisation for Indigenous Australians due to assault in Remote and Very remote areas were 23 and 21 times as high as for non-Indigenous Australians living in the same regions"

" Indigenous females were 27 times as likely as non‑Indigenous females to have been hospitalised due to assault nationally"