https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/un-declaration-rights-indigenous-people

This'll get interesting since we've arbitrarily - in keeping with such things as handing out land claims and similar by government departments under their party mate appointed heads obeying orders direct while being online with The Agenda anyway or they wouldn't cop the gig with the freebies for life, eh? -  determined that multi-generational Australians are Indigenous and Aborigines are Aborigines.

Aside:-  ain't it just a bastard when some prick comes along and just says - "Nah - that's how it is from now on, and don't bother with your representations - it's already decided the other way."  Right you 148 land owners on Fraser Island - piss off with your  representations against this absurd takeover nonsense by a group of non-local Aborigines.... we'll let you know when we've decided against you .... so piss off...

This will be fun - so many words here - and so little that indicates anything really special for our Aborigines as they were hunting for with the voice.... land title.... (heh, heh, heh)....

Let's see now - I'll be able to launch an attack North in two days....... with two divisions....  George S Patton.

Article Seven:-

Well - they're doing just fine there as long as they can stop trying to kill one another in various ways.


Article Eight:-

Well - circumstances may force them to alter their ways - they can't expect to just be handed the big house on the hill looking over the ocean etc without doing something for it... they can't just expect a$200k pa income without working for it, can they?  So change is forced on them - not by individuals or governments, but by their own increased requirements for the same as others.  Can't just rely on some cargo cult to come along and do a dividie and pay them to mow their own lawns... the end of that is that everyone will be on a state salary, all the same for whatever work they do, unless they are part of the 'ruling elite clique' - a return to Feudalism and the kind of despotism that went with it.  That's why there is such an assault on the rules of law here and has been since the advent of affirmative action.....

Interesting part here:- "Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;" ... WELL, so it's all right to dispossess the majority re national parks and Open Range land under the Crown, but not the minority... in their eyes only (not Sheena Eeston - For Your Eyes Only).... and a pig's ear ...

Article Nine:-

No problem exists there - nobody is stopping them unless their way does harm to others or otherwise contravenes the law of the land..

Article Ten:-

Doesn't happen.

Article Eleven:-

Ongoing process for years.... but at some point a line must be drawn - you can't just say everything is a 'sacred site' to gain control over it.  Yabbying in the creek doesn't make that creek a sacred site... saying there are spirits in it doesn't do that either.... not your business to tell the spirits when to be upset or anything... they can handle it themselves.

Article Twelve -

No problem these days and for a long time ... not ever in most cases... but they can't just say it's all ceremonial spots etc.. you can't just claim the whole land as sacred.  Since Parrot's Tits closed off White etc access to Mt Warning - what 'ceremonies' have ever taken place anywhere there?  What about Ayers Rock?  No climbing so no "hey - what a view" ceremony from the summit, eh?  You can't just call everything in sight a sacred site - specify them NOW or that's it.... cite how, when and where you do these 'ceremonies' and prove to us that you do.  A ceremony isn't just one person saying - "What a climb!  Phew - but what a view!"  (YARDLE, YARDLE)

Article Thirteen -

No problem - they can pass on their lingo - same as we do.... nobody is stopping them.... most of us would take a shillelagh to them if anyone tried to .... damn - that's Irish Gaelic.... same as sreed (street), loch (lake),  scallywag ... you know....

Just another one of those whinges that nobody is standing in the way of.

Article Fourteen -

No problem - they can teach their kids outside normal school hours etc... a small part of school time could be utilised to teach them those things and to bring other kids up to speed on the differences... no problem at all.  Nobody is stopping them... the Alice
Springs Method - OK, you kids - you've missed school for the day so go into town and learn the outlaw ways.... go on - give me some peace ...

Article Fifteen -

No problem - every second street and town is named using one of their words.... etc... etc... etc... you bloody pack of Gulargambones, as an example ...Coonamble (Cheeramble) ... Coonabarabran (Cheerabarbran), Koonawarra (Cheerawarra) ... you know....

Article Sixteen -

Again nobody is stopping them.

Article Seventeen -

No problems again - nobody is exploiting Aboriginal children as child labour etc - they're ot abused in jobs any more than anyone else - when you can get them to go to one or travel to a major centre to even find one .... Bugarabagapoo, remember - in Isolaland ...at least until dividie gets his hands on the reins....

Article Eighteen -

No problem - countless bodies offer their views - others get none.... Black Privilege, eh?

Article Nineteen -

Same as governments consult fully with us, eh?  Equality, innit - this sounds like a demand for special privilege - Black Privilege again.

Article Twenty -

No problem - they can dot paint all they like and sell 'em... whatever ....  When was the last time one was deprived of any traditional way of earning a living here in Australia?

Article Twenty One -

They have opportunities for schooling etc same as everyone else..... and then some ... nothing more needs to be said.

Article Twenty Two -

Disabilities - that applies to everyone, not just one group.  States do their best to control the internal violence in that community...... despite the opposition from those they are trying to help .... and from their running dogs .. just like here....

Article Twenty Three -

Anyone here reckon they are not consulted when a nurse arrives in town to set up a clinic etc?  Not consulted about their specdific needs?  Do they want a witch doctor in the surgical suite during operations?

Article Twenty four -

Nobody here stops them from using their traditional medicines and cures.

So far the only problem seems to be the UN's vague and undefined idea of what constitutes land ownership... so the activists figured that meant the UN would enforce their demand for total ownership of Australia - while everyone else said NO - but if you ask nicely we might give you a piece of it for free... just not huge swathes you demand without reason....  the good old days of caveman style Aboriginal Imperialism are gone - it's 2024 - not 1787.

"UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples"

Yes, and I'm sure the Australian Government takes as much notice of that (i.e. ignores it) when it suits them (i.e. has a negative impact on the economy) as they do of this (which Australia has been a signatory to for over 50 years):

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Especially...

Article 12 Section 2 (c) and (d).

... in regards to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic (and even the 'yearly' flu).

And don't get me started on Article 11.

These UN "Declarations" and "Covenants" are not worth the paper they're written on.

Ah, yes, the "ideal".

Certainly desirable and probably achievable if governments wanted to (or even cared).

Which they don't, of course. Especially if it means "the economy" takes a big hit.

As I said, these "Declarations" and "Covenants" are basically worthless, they're just 'feel good' exercises in futility from an organization (the UN) that is pointless and useless, especially these days when money is the most important thing on governments' (and most peoples') minds.

Carl D wrote on Jul 30^th, 2024 at 1:39pm:


Thanks for your clarification, and well said. 

Indeed "the economy" (money) is reckoned to be more important than people.

Even though money is created out of thin air.

The money-lenders have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. 

At least Albo, speaking at the Garma festival,  is moving beyond the "indigenous rights" crap, and now talking about "economic empowerment" to close the gap.

Will be interesting to see if the government can realize that goal; industries related to climate change  have been identified as a possible source of employment,  without much detail provided so far.

But the black (and white) 'cultural' activists are condemning Albo for removing the Federal government from consideraion of  divisive 'land rights', "truth telling"   and 'sovereignty' issues.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 4^th, 2024 at 12:47pm:


Your mistake first up (well done...); "economic empowerment" means prosperous  participation in the economy.

It's not something a nation "tries", it's something a nation achieves, to close the gap.  Do try to keep up.