freediver wrote on Aug 10
th, 2024 at 9:25am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 9
th, 2024 at 12:30pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 8
th, 2024 at 2:51pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 8
th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 7
th, 2024 at 5:47pm:
Quote:Mao mismanaged collective farming 60 years ago; and the US is suffering from neoliberal free market dysfunction NOW
The CCP killed about 100 million of it's own citizens through "mismanagement".
Correct (disregarding the exaggerated numbers).
How many Chinese people do you think the CCP has killed?
By intention - zero (apart from state-destroying 'freedom values' ideologues)
How many fall into the "apart from" excuse for the CCP's mass murder of its own citizens?
About 5% who are blind "freedom values" ideologues like you, the other 95% support the CCP's policies. (Harvard research poll).
Quote:You are yet to explain how going from starvation communism to a liberal market driving a massive increase in wealth counts as stability. Either political or social. It is one of the most rapid changes in the last century.
You are merely displaying your low IQ. The CCP has achieved fast economic growth for all, during the period of political stability in China post 1990.
Quote:Is it just because you equate wealth with stability and want to credit it to stability so you don't have to acknowledge that the Chinese Communist Party has turned into those capitalist ideologues that it spent a better part of a century trying to slaughter?
No. See my previous post; and now both the US AND China are dealing with the limits of private sector free markets re achieving common prosperity.
Quote:It is because the CCP is decoupled from reality by believing its own hubris.
Where js the 'hubris' in overseeing the most productive PV and EV industries in the world? You lose - while Yellen is crying about Chinese "overproduction", because the US can't compete.
Quote: It has seen the success of capitalism but fears the economic freedom granted to citizens may lead to demands for other types of freedom, human rights, or the expansion of democracy.
...Your delusional "freedom values" narrative, resulting in the enforced "freedom" to (illegally) live in tents in city streets in the US.
Quote:The CCP does not need the US government to decouple from the global economy.
Indeed, the CCP is taking the US and EU to the WTO, because of the illegal US-led decoupling efforts, in a miserable attempt to contain China's rise.
Quote: It is more than capable of stuffing things up on its own. Like when the lights literally went out because the CCP put a trade embargo on Australian coal. Didn't think that one through, did they?
A mistake - yes; reversed when the RW Morrison government was turfed out in Oz.
Quote:One thing you are right about, most of the CCP's victims were not deliberately targeted. Thought tens of millions were, merely for having the wrong opinion. Most of the people the CCP killed, they were actually trying to help. Like the Great Chinese Famine. The only thing more dangerous than a Nazi trying to exterminate you is a communist trying to help you.
Given the self-interest inherent in human nature, Marxism has had a major problem in replacing th ancient, vicious, self-interested private sector markets, with an economy which works for all.
So history is indeed a disaster (endless wars, civil wars, entrenched poverty).
But now we can look forward to a future with common prosperity, as new systems for dealing with the egregious outcomes of greed-based private-sector markets are developed.
Stop trying to engender your vicious "China threat" theory, and attend to your own failings.
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