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Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Reply #15 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
because its a nothing burger...except to bed wetters like dr berger  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed


Since you mentioned the esteemed Dr. David Berger again, what are your thoughts on this?

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1823173899611443288

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Interesting how a minuscule number of imagination-catching deaths provokes urgent calls for sensational and ineffective measures. Meanwhile, large numbers of readily preventable deaths -COVID - totally ignored. 🤷‍♂️


My thoughts? I agree 100%.
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Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Reply #16 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:01pm:
Some more reading for everyone:

https://slaynews.com/news/major-global-study-covid-shots-caused-largest-non-war-...

Major Global Study: Covid Shots Caused ‘Largest Non-War Mortality Event in 100 Years’

Frank BergmanAugust 8, 2024 - 12:54 pm




https://slaynews.com/news/major-study-confirms-covid-shots-killed-17-million-peo...

Major Study Confirms Covid Shots Killed 17 Million People

Frank BergmanAugust 2, 2024 - 12:54 pm


You really are a fascinating person, Bobby.

From memory, it wasn't too long ago that you were telling us about how you caught Covid in a shopping centre food court and you were disgusted with the large number of coughing and sneezing people there - with many of them not even bothering to try and cover their coughs and sneezes. And none of them were wearing a mask, of course.

I believe you've also recently told us again about these "disgusting" people and how you try to go shopping early in the morning or late in the evening when it's quiet.

And yet you seem to be obsessed with the Covid vaccines for some reason... very strange.

Methinks you listen to the likes of Sir Nail too much.
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Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Reply #17 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 6:02pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
because its a nothing burger...except to bed wetters like dr berger  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed


Since you mentioned the esteemed Dr. David Berger again, what are your thoughts on this?

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1823173899611443288

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Interesting how a minuscule number of imagination-catching deaths provokes urgent calls for sensational and ineffective measures. Meanwhile, large numbers of readily preventable deaths -COVID - totally ignored. 🤷‍♂️


My thoughts? I agree 100%.


Hey aquascoot.
No thoughts so far?

Here, let Conor and I lend you a hand. I believe he explains it quite well.

https://x.com/brownecfm/status/1822954864369897720

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Why is it that nobody in the public sphere dares talk about covid? No politicians, no journalists, no commentators. Whatever people's ideas on it, it exists. The radio silence is frankly sinister. Friends yesterday said 'it's not serious anymore is it?'


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1. This is an excellent question. To understand how Covid-19 has become a taboo subject, there are a number of factors that must be considered.

First, the dynamic that exists between governments, public health, the media, and healthcare professionals.


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2. The relationship between government and public health is often seen as follows: governments taking advice from independent scientists and then following it. However, public health agencies are far from independent - they are nested within governmental structures.


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3. As such, public health agencies are, by definition, political in nature. They are not independent. But, this political character of public health is not straightforward (in the sense of government leadership telling them what to say). Rather, it is a subtle relationship.


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4. This subtle relationship is often characterised by 'informal' conversations that steer the narrative (many years ago, I spent months researching how epistemic communities function in these types of situations).


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5. The end result of this is that senior figures in government come to believe the recommendations of public health agencies without recognising the extent to which these recommendations *were originally steered by government*. This becomes more cemented as time passes.


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6. The media gets information predominantly from official public health sources (which, as described, are actually political in nature). However, many journalists don't realise this, thinking that the information they receive to be apolitical and independent.


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7. This is also the case for many healthcare professionals, who see official guidance as coming from a completely apolitical source. The result of this is that what was originally a *political* decision becomes seen as, effectively, 'following the best science available'.


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8. This effect also applies to the politicians themselves.

In short, this creates a deadly feedback loop between government, public health, the media, and healthcare professionals *all based on the false assumption that policies on Covid-19 are apolitical*.


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9. Second, most governments are aware - institutionally at least - that they made a number of significant mistakes regarding Covid-19. To admit mistakes is to admit culpability.


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10. Third, governments and the media fully understand that the general public now associates the word, 'Covid' with lockdowns and other non-pharmaceutical interventions. These were - understandably - unpopular measures, so mentioning Covid at all risks losing electoral support.


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11. If the government isn't mentioning it, it isn't news.

All of the above has created a powerful societal agreement to not talk about Covid. This then filters back up to policymakers, who respond by doing the same.


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12. It is a top-down and bottom-up social structure that erases Covid-19 from both policy and general discourse, and, as such, is a structure that reinforces itself.

As the virus continues to mutate, transmit, disable, and kill.

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(The highlighting was done by me)

By the way... Conor Browne is in Belfast, Northern Ireland (the lady who asked the question, Juliet Green, is in the UK). Which just goes to show how much in 'lockstep' governments worldwide (especially western governments including our own) have been in trying to make it appear the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is over or at worst it's "just a cold" these days.
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Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Reply #18 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:34am
 
pulbic health is government propaganda

why else would they allow mcdonalds on site at a childrens hospital


as for covid

they failed to produce a vaccine that worked and they lied about it

of course they are going to shut up now

the public health message should have been

lose weight, eat well and get some sun to boost your vit d

the swedish approach

it appears only the swedes have been consistent

you are pissed because they wont keep lying about the fact that covid comes down to personal responsibility


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Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Reply #19 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:57am
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:01pm:
Some more reading for everyone:

https://slaynews.com/news/major-global-study-covid-shots-caused-largest-non-war-...

Major Global Study: Covid Shots Caused ‘Largest Non-War Mortality Event in 100 Years’

Frank BergmanAugust 8, 2024 - 12:54 pm




https://slaynews.com/news/major-study-confirms-covid-shots-killed-17-million-peo...

Major Study Confirms Covid Shots Killed 17 Million People

Frank BergmanAugust 2, 2024 - 12:54 pm


You really are a fascinating person, Bobby.

From memory, it wasn't too long ago that you were telling us about how you caught Covid in a shopping centre food court and you were disgusted with the large number of coughing and sneezing people there - with many of them not even bothering to try and cover their coughs and sneezes. And none of them were wearing a mask, of course.

I believe you've also recently told us again about these "disgusting" people and how you try to go shopping early in the morning or late in the evening when it's quiet.

And yet you seem to be obsessed with the Covid vaccines for some reason... very strange.

Methinks you listen to the likes of Sir Nail too much.



Yes - I try to stay out of shopping centers at busy times -
the filthy pigs cough and sneeze everywhere.

I only ever got 3 shots of a non mRNA vax - AstraZeneca.
I didn't trust the newfangled stuff.

I am only a humble messenger of the news.

I have a very bad cold right now -
I tested and it's NOT Covid.
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Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Reply #20 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:34am:
public health is government propaganda

why else would they allow McDonald's on site at a children's hospital


as for Covid

they failed to produce a vaccine that worked and they lied about it

of course they are going to shut up now

the public health message should have been

lose weight, eat well and get some sun to boost your vit d

the Swedish approach

it appears only the swedes have been consistent

you are pissed because they wont keep lying about the fact that Covid comes down to personal responsibility





Maccas is not fit for human consumption.
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Reply #21 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am:
Maccas is not fit for human consumption.


Do you have a favourite fast food place to eat? I know it is definitely not Maccas.
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Reply #22 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 12:16pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am:
Maccas is not fit for human consumption.


Do you have a favourite fast food place to eat? I know it is definitely not Maccas.



A fish and chip shop 5 minutes drive away makes nice
fish and chips and souvlakis.


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Reply #23 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 5:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:34am:
pulbic health is government propaganda


"Public Health" is now "Personal Responsibility" at least as far as Covid is concerned (as you keep telling us).  Roll Eyes

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why else would they allow mcdonalds on site at a childrens hospital


Ronald McDonald is a big favourite with the kids. "He" also does a lot of charity work.

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as for covid

they failed to produce a vaccine that worked and they lied about it


The vaccines do work... just not in the way governments and big business hoped they would but they should have known the Covid vaccines would not be 'sterilizing' ones which would provide permanent immunity - they probably did but chose to ignore it to get the borders open and the economy back 'up and running' as fast as they could.

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of course they are going to shut up now


Of course they will - to admit they were wrong and made tragic mistakes with Covid would make them a big target for legal action by the families of the 25,000+ Australians who have died (so far). Not to mention all the current and upcoming Long Covid cases (which will eventually cripple their precious economy anyway).

Plus the embarrassment for the pollies if they had to admit they were wrong (which would cost them many votes at the next election which is really all they're concerned about).

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the public health message should have been

lose weight, eat well and get some sun to boost your vit d


Yeah, and we saw how well that worked out for a lot of the athletes at the Olympic Games, didn't we?

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the swedish approach

it appears only the swedes have been consistent


Consistent in letting Covid kill people and doing nothing to stop it? Like Australia and most of the rest of the world is doing right now?

Lessons from COVID-19: Government inaction led to needless deaths

3 June 2024

Norway and Sweden are neighbouring Scandinavian countries far from Europe’s COVID-19 epicentre in Italy and even further from its source in China. We would expect both advanced nations to have been safe from disaster.

In fact, Norway lost 6,638 citizens to the infection, which was 1,204 per million population. Sweden, in contrast, lost 27,407 citizens to the infection, which was 2,682 per million — more than double Norway’s rate.

Subsequent studies have shown that Sweden tried to avoid a societal shutdown by seeking natural herd immunity. Sweden’s health agency dismissed advice from scientists and international authorities as extreme and permitted media and political bodies to advance their own preferred responses.

The Swedish people were not given basic facts such as transmission being airborne, that asymptomatic individuals can be contagious and face masks work.

The people of Norway can be thankful their government, in contrast, heeded the science, issued timely warnings, and provided both information and masks.


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you are pissed because they wont keep lying about the fact that covid comes down to personal responsibility


I'm not "pissed" at all. And, why don't you pop down to Melbourne and visit one of Bobby's shopping centres and give people a lecture about this awesome "personal responsibility" you keep telling us about?

In fact, you don't even need to go to Melbourne - I'm sure any shopping centre in Brisbane (or anywhere in Australia) will do. I see and hear lots of (maskless) coughing and sneezing every time I go shopping at our Belmont Forum.

But, hey... don't mind me. "You do you" (which fits in well these days with that awesome "Personal Responsibility").
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Reply #24 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:44pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:52pm:
Good evening Sir Nail.

"WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."

Would you like to buy a vowel or can you solve it?

Undecided


There's no 'N' carl as in CONVID Wink
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #25 - Aug 15th, 2024 at 1:21am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 12:16pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am:
Maccas is not fit for human consumption.


Do you have a favourite fast food place to eat? I know it is definitely not Maccas.



A fish and chip shop 5 minutes drive away makes nice
fish and chips and souvlakis


Reads nicely. We have a shop down near Kalka that makes great fish and chips.
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Reply #26 - Aug 15th, 2024 at 1:23am
 
By the way, are you drag racing to get to that fish & chip shop 5 minutes away?
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Reply #27 - Aug 29th, 2024 at 10:48am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:28pm:
Yep the brains trust medicos have no idea why cancers and heart attacks are on the rise in children. Sad

https://www.facebook.com/reel/472625235458504


If you don't know why these conditions are on the rise, then it must be the vaccine.

Sound logic.
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