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Re: Thousands turn out at anti-racist counter-protests
Reply #30 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:24pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
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The only violence came from the far right. In response, the people of England have spoken in their thousands.



In doing so, they condoned the murder of these three little girls. And they weren't the people of England, they were lefty Labor voters, Marxist far left creeps like you


https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/unknown-20240730144842039.jpg

You find it annoying you have to look at them, don't you? You and your creepy lefty associates are responsible for their deaths, you are the scum of humanity




This case has nothing to do with Islam.   And yet, right wing scums used their death as an excuse to torch, damage and destroy properties belonging to hard working class people.   They are the ones who need to take a good look at themselves and those innocent children and reflect on their abhorrent action. 




what about this case on which the police refused to act for fear of being called racist  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




The Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal consists of the organised child sexual abuse that occurred in the town of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, Northern England from the late 1980s until 2013[9] and the failure of local authorities to act on reports of the abuse throughout most of that period.[10] Researcher Angie Heal, who was hired by local officials and warned them about child exploitation occurring between 2002 and 2007, has since described it as the "biggest child protection scandal in UK history",[11] with one report estimating that 1,400 girls were abused by "grooming gangs" between 1997 and 2013.[9] Evidence of the abuse was first noted in the early 1990s, when care home managers investigated reports that children in their care were being picked up by taxi drivers.[12] From at least 2001, multiple reports passed names of alleged perpetrators, several from one family, to the police and Rotherham Council. The first group conviction took place in 2010, when five British-Pakistani men were convicted of sexual offences against girls aged 12–16.[13] From January 2011 Andrew Norfolk of The Times pressed the issue, reporting in 2012 that the abuse in the town was widespread and that the police and council had known about it for over ten years.[a]

The Times articles, along with the 2012 trial of the Rochdale child sex abuse ring, prompted the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee to conduct hearings.[16] Following this and further articles from Norfolk, Rotherham Council commissioned an independent inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay. In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children[17] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by British-Pakistani men.[15]

You will find that child sexual abuse is goes beyond racial lines.  And it is everything to do the imbalance of power between minor and adult.  And that period between 1980s to 2013 where it was most prevalent.    You mentioned the Rochdale child sex abuse ring.   But why stop there.

In 2020, UK Police admitted for the first time that there was an ‘epidemic’ of institutional child sexual abuse in church institutions, children’s homes, borstals, schools and other foster families in the 1970s and 80s.   Many of whom have spent a lifetime with their experiences not believed and redress unobtainable.  The Office for National Statistics estimates that 3.1 million people in UK aged 18 to 74 were sexually abused in childhood.    The Forde Park school in Devon is just one of the many examples. 

Your post illustrates clearly that far right wing’s tactic of cherry picking to suit their own political agenda. 
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Re: Thousands turn out at anti-racist counter-protests
Reply #31 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 5:07pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:24pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:08am:
mothra wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 11:27am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 11:13am:
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The only violence came from the far right. In response, the people of England have spoken in their thousands.



In doing so, they condoned the murder of these three little girls. And they weren't the people of England, they were lefty Labor voters, Marxist far left creeps like you


https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/unknown-20240730144842039.jpg

You find it annoying you have to look at them, don't you? You and your creepy lefty associates are responsible for their deaths, you are the scum of humanity




This case has nothing to do with Islam.   And yet, right wing scums used their death as an excuse to torch, damage and destroy properties belonging to hard working class people.   They are the ones who need to take a good look at themselves and those innocent children and reflect on their abhorrent action. 




what about this case on which the police refused to act for fear of being called racist  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




The Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal consists of the organised child sexual abuse that occurred in the town of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, Northern England from the late 1980s until 2013[9] and the failure of local authorities to act on reports of the abuse throughout most of that period.[10] Researcher Angie Heal, who was hired by local officials and warned them about child exploitation occurring between 2002 and 2007, has since described it as the "biggest child protection scandal in UK history",[11] with one report estimating that 1,400 girls were abused by "grooming gangs" between 1997 and 2013.[9] Evidence of the abuse was first noted in the early 1990s, when care home managers investigated reports that children in their care were being picked up by taxi drivers.[12] From at least 2001, multiple reports passed names of alleged perpetrators, several from one family, to the police and Rotherham Council. The first group conviction took place in 2010, when five British-Pakistani men were convicted of sexual offences against girls aged 12–16.[13] From January 2011 Andrew Norfolk of The Times pressed the issue, reporting in 2012 that the abuse in the town was widespread and that the police and council had known about it for over ten years.[a]

The Times articles, along with the 2012 trial of the Rochdale child sex abuse ring, prompted the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee to conduct hearings.[16] Following this and further articles from Norfolk, Rotherham Council commissioned an independent inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay. In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children[17] had been sexually abused in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by British-Pakistani men.[15]

You will find that child sexual abuse is goes beyond racial lines.  And it is everything to do the imbalance of power between minor and adult.  And that period between 1980s to 2013 where it was most prevalent.    You mentioned the Rochdale child sex abuse ring.   But why stop there.

In 2020, UK Police admitted for the first time that there was an ‘epidemic’ of institutional child sexual abuse in church institutions, children’s homes, borstals, schools and other foster families in the 1970s and 80s.   Many of whom have spent a lifetime with their experiences not believed and redress unobtainable.  The Office for National Statistics estimates that 3.1 million people in UK aged 18 to 74 were sexually abused in childhood.    The Forde Park school in Devon is just one of the many examples. 

Your post illustrates clearly that far right wing’s tactic of cherry picking to suit their own political agenda. 


ah but the churches got investigated, royal commissions , no policeman fears prosecuting the clergy


in rotheram, 1400 teenage girls who were run aways in the main were abducted and repeatedly raped by 100's of pakistani men.

and the police would not touch it

they did not wish to be branded racist

the left forgive all sorts of things from muslims

80 % of somali girls have had their clitorises removed

crickets

a girl in iran who takes off the burkha and shows her hair risks being imprisoned
and the ayatolah has told fellow prisoners to rape them so they cannot enter paradise

crickets from the west

in fact western feminists celebrate the burkha as a symbol of female empowerment
google linda sarsauer

time for some "hard truths "

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Re: Thousands turn out at anti-racist counter-protests
Reply #32 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:01pm
 
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I disagree.  What happened in Rotheram is the same modus operandi as what happened in churches, schools, and home.  People got into position of power - no matter what they are, and abuse it.  The law enforcement either find it too much trouble to follow up, or straight out ignoring victims, and then cover it up.   I am sorry to say, similar tragedies had being happening for thousands of years in all parts of the world. 

Of particular interesting note.  Research have showed those crimes are predominantly perpetrated by men against young girls.  And yet, if its not for a few high profile men's case, those atrocities would probably never see the light of the day.
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Re: Thousands turn out at anti-racist counter-protests
Reply #33 - Aug 13th, 2024 at 11:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:08am:
mothra wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 11:27am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 11:13am:
Here - beat up on these rabid righties...





The only violence came from the far right. In response, the people of England have spoken in their thousands.



In doing so, they condoned the murder of these three little girls. And they weren't the people of England, they were lefty Labor voters, Marxist far left creeps like you


https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/unknown-20240730144842039.jpg

You find it annoying you have to look at them, don't you? You and your creepy lefty associates are responsible for their deaths, you are the scum of humanity




This case has nothing to do with Islam.   And yet, right wing scums used their death as an excuse to torch, damage and destroy properties belonging to hard working class people.   They are the ones who need to take a good look at themselves and those innocent children and reflect on their abhorrent action. 




Indeed.



Perhaps not directly - but ..... JUST LIKE THE VOICE HERE.......... it was the trigger for a people suddenly realising that they did not have to be in thrall to every trendy and half-educated government with quarter-baked ideas and their equally morally and intellectually bankrupt senior public service appointed honchoes..... and that the people could actually say NO!

The butchery of little girls may not have directly been the cause... but it set off the chain of FREEEEEDOOOOM for the British public from the despotism of elected governments with no brains and no idea.

How is it, d'ye imagine, that all of these 'extreme right wing riots' were attended by a much larger number of empty-headed fellow travelers and useful fools of the 'glorious and righteous left'?  Who was it started the trouble again?

A Musso was arrested from in amongst a crowd with face masks and such and telling police he didn't have to provide ID..... sure he didn't:-

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/moment-rival-protesters-arrive-outside-pot...
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Reply #34 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:30am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:01pm:
Re aqua

I disagree.  What happened in Rotheram is the same modus operandi as what happened in churches, schools, and home.  People got into position of power - no matter what they are, and abuse it.  The law enforcement either find it too much trouble to follow up, or straight out ignoring victims, and then cover it up.   I am sorry to say, similar tragedies had being happening for thousands of years in all parts of the world. 

Of particular interesting note.  Research have showed those crimes are predominantly perpetrated by men against young girls.  And yet, if its not for a few high profile men's case, those atrocities would probably never see the light of the day. 



they werent really in positions of power

most were low income muslim immigrants

the police admitted to the parliamentary enquiry that accusations of islamophobia led to them not wanting to touch this hot potato

several of the sex prisoners who were underage were put back into the custody of the men who were organising the abuse
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Reply #35 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 7:40am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:30am:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:01pm:
Re aqua

I disagree.  What happened in Rotheram is the same modus operandi as what happened in churches, schools, and home.  People got into position of power - no matter what they are, and abuse it.  The law enforcement either find it too much trouble to follow up, or straight out ignoring victims, and then cover it up.   I am sorry to say, similar tragedies had being happening for thousands of years in all parts of the world.  

Of particular interesting note.  Research have showed those crimes are predominantly perpetrated by men against young girls.  And yet, if its not for a few high profile men's case, those atrocities would probably never see the light of the day. 



they werent really in positions of power

most were low income muslim immigrants

the police admitted to the parliamentary enquiry that accusations of islamophobia led to them not wanting to touch this hot potato

several of the sex prisoners who were underage were put back into the custody of the men who were organising the abuse



That is the thing with position of power.  There is always people lower in the picking order.  Back in 1980s, that was the position of young girls from low income background.  Even less than low income male muslim immigrants.   If its not for the works of equal opportunity activists, we would still be in that situation.    In your mind, perhaps you believe low income muslim immigrants cant possibly have any power.  This is because you are talking from the point view of an older aged white male.

Lets look at this way.  If the victims back in 1980s were a group of wealthy middle aged white male.  You can bet that those perpetrators would be in jail and there will be a great outrage all the way up to the Queen within a few weeks.

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Re: Thousands turn out at anti-racist counter-protests
Reply #36 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:30am:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:01pm:
Re aqua

I disagree.  What happened in Rotheram is the same modus operandi as what happened in churches, schools, and home.  People got into position of power - no matter what they are, and abuse it.  The law enforcement either find it too much trouble to follow up, or straight out ignoring victims, and then cover it up.   I am sorry to say, similar tragedies had being happening for thousands of years in all parts of the world. 

Of particular interesting note.  Research have showed those crimes are predominantly perpetrated by men against young girls.  And yet, if its not for a few high profile men's case, those atrocities would probably never see the light of the day. 



they werent really in positions of power

most were low income muslim immigrants

the police admitted to the parliamentary enquiry that accusations of islamophobia led to them not wanting to touch this hot potato

several of the sex prisoners who were underage were put back into the custody of the men who were organising the abuse


True power comes from the ability to impose by fear......... does this ring any bells with Mussos and a few others?  Those British police admitted they feared being called racist or Islamophobic....  now WTF is that but fear and intimidation?

Kinda reminds you of the gentle Ross Mayo, eh?  Anyone who doesn't listen - listen in Aboriginal vernacular being 'hear and obey' - will be punished...... now WTF do you call that other than intimidation?  Don't you fly that Australian flag on A-Day - you might upset them and they could go on a rampage....

Anyone who is  a parent can tell you that you must never give in to tantrums.... and that is what has happened to discussion of social issues ranging from immigrants with an attitude problem to 'gender choosers' with no real idea... gimme what I demand or I'll throw a tantrum!!

Time to re-open the asylums for those who remain children when adults... and to shape up and ship out all those who hate it here, and elsewhere, so much... no likee - no stayee!!

Not too many Englanders in this riotous, masked lot:-

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Reply #37 - Aug 14th, 2024 at 5:22pm
 
These don't look very English, either - other than by the New Standards .... so who is doing the rioting?  What's-'is-name Tommy Robinson said that he forbad anyone to wear black or masks at any demonstration.... so who are these masked individuals and all those people in riots who look like Others?  Just peaceful counter-protestors?

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Reply #38 - Aug 21st, 2024 at 12:48am
 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-scolded-for-far-right-remarks...

"Two-thirds of Britons blame the UK's immigration policy for the outbreak of riots across the country, a new poll has revealed.

A poll by Savanta has shown that more people think the recent unrest was about migration, rather than the Southport killings in July.

Voters were split on Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's response to the disorder, with 49 per cent saying it went well, and 43 per cent claiming it went badly.

Discussing the findings on GB News, pollster and academic Matt Goodwin claimed that the figures suggest many people "do view the protests as being directly linked to the policy of mass migration" that's "defined the country for the last 30 years"."


Footnote:-  thus far the reality is that three riots were from the 'anti' mobs - and one from the 'far right'..... hmmmmmm ...

Britain has to be wary of mass immigration - as an island nation it relies massively on trade for even its sustenance level supplies.... next time around a Battle of The Atlantic could really starve them out... that's what got Japan in the end - long before Hiroshima the US submarines and then air had stifled Japanese capacity to carry materials and footstuffs to the home islands.  Those B-29 raids would have been better employed carpet bombing Iwo Jima - I've often wondered if a B-29 could be loaded up with all napalm and then Iwo could have been carpeted... all inside Mt Suribachi and in bunkers etc burned or asphyxiated... Marine casualties - one stubbed toe on landing.
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Thousands turn out at anti-racist counter-protests to ‘stop the far right’ across the UK



Thousands of people have responded to a rallying cry to “stop the far right”, turning out at anti-racist counter-protests being held across the UK for a national day of protest.

Anti-fascist group Stand Up to Racism called for demonstrations to take place across the country on Saturday, with huge crowds gathering in towns and cities such as London, Edinburgh and Cardiff, following more than a week of nationwide far-right riots.

The police had been braced for further violence ahead of the weekend, but the far-right were outnumbered by anti-racists where they did turn up, according to Stand Up to Racism, with more than 50 rallies taking place nationwide.

Up to 15,000 people also gathered for an anti-racism rally organised by the United Against Racism group in Belfast, with protesters seen holding placards with anti-racism and pro-migrant messages and heard chanting, “When migrants’ rights are under attack, what do we do? Stand up, fight back.”

Meanwhile, the thousands marching on Whitehall in support of refugees chanted “refugees are welcome here”. Stand Up to Racism estimated 5,000 people assembled at Reform UK’s headquarters in Victoria, where speakers accused Nigel Farage of “spreading racism”.

Those giving speeches later in Trafalgar Square then condemned X boss Elon Musk following recent criticism facing the social media company over the spread of disinformation on its platform.

One speaker from Stand Up to Racism told the crowd: “After being outnumbered, we turned it around this week.”

Samira Ali, who made the closing speech, later said: “We feel like we have turned the tide. It’s a testament to our mobilisation that they failed to come out. They would not have been stopped if it was not for our mobilisation.”

The group reported that hundreds, if not thousands, also gathered in many more towns and cities across the UK, including Edinburgh, Cambridge, Glasgow, Exeter, Sheffield, Liverpool, Newcastle, Hastings, Oxford, Manchester, and other areas of London – bringing the total number of anti-racist demonstrators potentially to the tens of thousands.

Demonstrators carried placards and banners displaying slogans such as “No to racism” and “Refugees welcome: Stop the far right” at the counter-protests outside Holyrood in Edinburgh and in George Square in Glasgow.

There were up to 3,000 gathered both in Glasgow and in Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester, according to Stand Up to Racism. As many as 2,000 people turned out in Edinburgh, according to the organisation, while 1,000 took to the streets of Liverpool as well as Newcastle, where a small number of far-right protesters did appear.

Liverpool saw violent riots last week, as did Hull, where Stand Up to Racism reported 400 anti-racists were instead gathered on Saturday.

Weyman Bennett, Stand Up to Racism co-convenor, said: “Today shows we can turn the tide against the far right and the racists. Up and down the country, people have come together, organised and marched to send a clear message: the far-right aren’t welcome. We won’t let them attack Muslims, migrants and refugees. Our message is one of hope, solidarity and unity.”

It comes after more than a week of far-right riots, which erupted in many of the same places that saw counter-protests take place on Saturday following the fatal knife attack in Southport – and included attacks on hotels housing migrants in Rotherham and Tamworth.

Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, were killed during a mass stabbing at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class at the Hart Space on 29 July.

Bebe’s heartbroken parents, Lauren and Ben King, paid tribute to their “precious” daughter who was “full of joy, light, and love” as they disclosed that their older daughter, Genie, nine, saw and escaped the stabbing, praising her “incredible strength and courage”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/anti-racist-counter-protest-far-...

And who started the rumour that the stabber was a Muslim illegal boat arrival on the MI6 watch list??


Step forward, Farhan Asif of Pakistan,  Allah be praised.


Pakistan Arrests Man Over Disinformation That Helped Spur U.K. Riots
In Pakistan, Farhan Asif, a freelance web developer, was arrested on Tuesday at his residence in Lahore, the local police said. He worked for Channel3Now, a news aggregation website that published sensational claims about the Southport attacker.

The site incorrectly reported that the suspect was a 17-year-old Muslim who had entered Britain by boat the previous year and was on “an MI6 watch list,” referring to Britain’s foreign intelligence service. In reality, the British authorities arrested a 17-year-old who was born and raised in Britain by a Christian family from Rwanda.
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The Channel3Now site, which gave the appearance of being a local American television news station, mostly posted clickbait news articles about crime in the United States, Britain and Australia. A Facebook account for the site indicated that it was managed by people in Pakistan and the United States.



Pakistanis stirring up anti-muslim sentiments, eh??  Does anyone else smell the burning Reichstag of our day?


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