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Reply #15 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 4:52pm

This is a very interesting case. Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result). But she is born with a vagina. And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female. This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female. So this is not a trans case. Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.

I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented. Then she would be a legendary female boxer.

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Reply #16 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm

I remember in high school biology they taught us about a dozen different definitions of male and female, and the challenges to each. Nothing is ever clean cut in biology.

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women. It is not to celebrate gender diversity. It is because women are weaker and need their own separate competition, or they would rarely make it in. It would be a sadder world if the only people who got around in tights were men. The only reason we have this controversy is because people are too afraid of upsetting the gender diversity Nazis or upsetting the gender equality Nazis by acknowledging the elephant in the room - that women aren't as good at sport.

If you remember that, the solution seems obvious - any gender ambiguity should should force the participant to compete in the men's competition. If it makes you feel better, you could relabel the men's competition to the open or unrestricted competition. Then the women's competition is to be restricted to people who satisfy every available definition of female.

Even for performance enhancing drugs things are getting very tricky, because it is getting easier to make drugs that resemble very closely what occurs naturally in the body, which is highly variable.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Reply #17 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:47pm freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm: My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it?
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Reply #18 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

This is a very interesting case. Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result). But she is born with a vagina. And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female. This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female. So this is not a trans case. Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.

I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented. Then she would be a legendary female boxer.

she has a Y chromosome

this is not in dispute

she has extra testosterone as a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent

mothra gets off on this

its sick

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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35107 Gender:	Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Reply #19 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:51pm here we have trans mma fighter fallon fox (rhonda rousey xx on the left)
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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35107 Gender:	Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Reply #20 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:53pm here we have foxes opponent with a fractured skull
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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35107 Gender:	Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Reply #21 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:54pm XY individuals should never bash XX individuals into unconsciousness its a disgrace
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49407 At my desk.	Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Reply #22 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:55pm John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:47pm: freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm: My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it? Do try to keep up John.
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Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif
Reply #23 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:32pm

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:47pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women

When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it?

Do try to keep up John.

The way I see it, it's you struggling to keep up. You said we need to go back to the purpose for separate comps.

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women

I hadn't realised that we moved away from separate comps. So can you explain when did they merge the male and female comps?

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Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif
Reply #24 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:42pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

You said we need to go back to the purpose for separate comps.

The purpose for separate comps was to limit damage. It was never a part of the Olympics for them to be merged, therefore there was no need to separate them. Wiser heads prevailed at the time, they could probably foresee future problems, unlike the current IOC.

The fact that you are trying to read more into the statement that was said, is telling. Wink

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Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif
Reply #25 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 9:39pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:32pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:47pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women

When did they merge the men and womens boxing that they have to go back to it?

Do try to keep up John.

The way I see it, it's you struggling to keep up. You said we need to go back to the purpose for separate comps.

freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

My take on it is to go back to the purpose of having a different competition for men and women

I hadn't realised that we moved away from separate comps. So can you explain when did they merge the male and female comps?

The explanation for all this is simple John. You are very confused.

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Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif
Reply #26 - Aug 15^th, 2024 at 9:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

This is a very interesting case. Assume She has XY chromosome (so it says but no one provided the actual result). But she is born with a vagina. And because of that, society had raised her and treated her as a female. This case, is not a case, where some male suddenly decided to call himself a female. So this is not a trans case. Mind you, the nation Algeria is quite conservative, and is often described having laws that is discriminatory against trans people.

I guess, if this is not the modern society, and or DNA testing was never invented. Then she would be a legendary female boxer.

she has a Y chromosome

this is not in dispute

she has extra testosterone as a result and can pummel the face of a female opponent

mothra gets off on this

its sick

Mothra gets her rocks off on victim stories but
who is the victim in this one? -

is it the poor man who wants to be a woman and gets picked on by the media or
is it the poor woman who got beaten up by a bloke pretending to be a girl?

Are they both victims?

Can Tammy Tyson sort it out?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif Reply #27 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 7:22am freediver wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 9:39pm: The explanation for all this is simple John. It certainly is, but if I tell what the explanation is you'll hide behind your ban buttons again.
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Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif
Reply #28 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 7:23am

lee wrote on Aug 15^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

It was never a part of the Olympics for them to be merged, therefore there was no need to separate them. Wiser heads prevailed at the time, they could probably foresee future problems, unlike the current IOC.

When did the current IOC merge mens and womens boxing?
Are you and FD overdosing on the same idiocy pills?

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Re: Lawsuit Filed by Algerian Boxer Imane Khelif
Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2024 at 9:21am

Well - they shoved Imane the Changeling into women's competition on the basis of a passport ID only - you should easily understand what that means when idiot governments like Queensland figure that a person can just be whatever they want to be on their paperwork.

Any Queensland Queer can become a woman and beat up girls in the Olympic boxing then... being as their mothers drove them to being queer, they'd likely love that chance... me lesbian chat-pal reckons these guys are the greatest and most violent misogynists in the world - says one broke her jaw when she was managing a lesbian club, and another crippled a friend of hers for life over being refused entry.

It's more time to re-open the asylums and isolate them from society and insulate it from their anger and harm...

I pity the poor guy - born without a prick and forced to be a girl when that clearly doesn't suit at all .... gonna most likely need suicide watch with all that confusion .....

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