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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Russian music Reply #75 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:52pm The great British actor sir Peter Ustinov used to describe Australia as British Siberia but he wasn't great singer at all.
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 48175 Gender:	Re: Russian music Reply #76 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 2:47pm He was right though. ...but now, America sees Australia as it's Confederate South with enslaved black people.
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Reply #78 - Nov 13^th, 2024 at 8:37pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

You are my favourite Russian atm.
There is more to Russia than Russians know.

Look at it this way my new friend.

The Western (Celtic) Europeans fled Europe to North America, saying Europe was a craphole in comparison.
The Eastern (Slavic) Europeans were kicked out of Europe to Sahul, like some criminal n' convict sent 'down under' to hell.
The Southern (Latin) Europeans said from their nice Oceanian idyllic island resorts - that: History was a lie and they were never in Europe in the first place!
The Northern (Scandinavian) Europeans moved into the rest of Europe like cleaners picking up the rubbish after a historical party that they were never invited to.

So you see Yuri. Australia here in Sahul, which may be down under America, but is a day ahead of it. Is the 'future' of the Slavic way. Just as Western Europe is fading into America.

Australia is Egalitarian, which basically is much like Communism. But here we call it www.COMmunism.

Russians, via the USSR, were never meant to head eastward into Asia. That belongs to Yellow man. Russians and all Slavs are meant to come here.

Check out Queanbeyan, near Canberra. Full of Russians.

The sad news is that Yellow China is going to do to your Russia, what it can't do to USA. You best put you grief with Ukraine to sleep. China has already retaken land off you Russians and audaciously has over 600,000 Chinese citizens occupying your lands and Putin knows it and is too scared to do anything about it.
China will destroy white Russia and black India - thus reestablishing Asia for the Yellow man.

Best you Russians come here to Australia if you want to keep living.

Friend, your views still remain strange to me.

I know a different history of the dispersal of Europeans around the world.

If we take the era following the period of the early Renaissance, we see the wanderings of the Portuguese and Spanish discoverers. All of today's Latin America is the result of these discoveries. Therefore, I cannot accept your opinion that the Southern Europeans sat motionless in their territories.

And the Celts and Germans, i.e. France, Germany, Britain and Holland, divided the rest of the world among themselves and settled in North America, Australia, Africa and in addition colonies in Asia.

But why you decided that Slavs migrated to Australia is completely incomprehensible to me. I have never heard of any significant migration flows of Russians, Bulgarians, Czechs, Poles or other Slavic peoples to Australia.

As for the Scandinavians, after settling in Iceland a thousand years ago, their migration flows ceased.

As for the Russians, in the second half of the 16th century they began to subjugate the lands beyond the Ural Mountains, then there was the development of the territories of Siberia and the Far East, as well as the Caucasus and Central Asia.

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Reply #79 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:52pm

Friend, it is indeed strange to you.
Because it is 'new' to you.

Would you follow the 'true Western' political way of Great Britain, that is adapting, evolving with the times thanks to its 'sharing' with its Colonies (Commonwealth) who help take it into the future?
Or would you follow the 'archaic Western' that began as the ancient Athenian & Roman politics and is still adhered to by France (Germany did as 'Nazis'), Italy and even - yes, the USA (which rejected the British way via its War of Independence from Britain and 'dependence' on all things German, French and Italian/Greek).

Understand that the 'West' of Europe is Politics.
The 'East' of Europe is Art.
Both are industries of the 'Right'.
While the Lefties of Northern and Southern Europe are best served like Music in a Restaurant. Wink

The World is not in the right shape so to speak.
Hence 'conflict' (when nations chase their weaknesses or/and hold onto all that is old and lost to them).
I'm just showing you where the pieces 'fit' in harmony.

Russia will soon be 'practically' destroyed soon by 'Yellow' Asia.
You think they are your 'ally'?
They'll wait till Russia drains itself fighting their fellow 'Slavic' brothers and then the Yellow China will (get revenge for what the USSR did to it) unleash upon the now 'weaker' Russia.
Yellow Man sees resource rich Siberia as a good investment and a return to the north for the Yellow Race.
Invading Russia, is a far better, less costly and more profitable alternative for China than crossing an entire Ocean to fight the USA directly.
Only 'anti-USA' North Korea could bring conflict between USA & China.
Tell me>? What 'advantage' would there be for China to 'invade' North America? Re-establish a Tee-pee?

Make peace with your 'Slavic' Brothers east of your Russia.
For Russia is between a Rock and a Hard Place (Yellow Asia) if it doesn't.

Do this. Because China 'will' get its revenge regardless.
There is a 'future' for Russians.
It's here - 'down under' in Australia. No need to head eastward into Yellow Asia anymore. Afterall - aren't you sick of the cold?

AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #80 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 3:46pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 8:37pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

You are my favourite Russian atm.
There is more to Russia than Russians know.
Look at it this way my new friend.
The Western (Celtic) Europeans fled Europe to North America, saying Europe was a craphole in comparison.
The Eastern (Slavic) Europeans were kicked out of Europe to Sahul, like some criminal n' convict sent 'down under' to hell.
The Southern (Latin) Europeans said from their nice Oceanian idyllic island resorts - that: History was a lie and they were never in Europe in the first place!
The Northern (Scandinavian) Europeans moved into the rest of Europe like cleaners picking up the rubbish after a historical party that they were never invited to.
So you see Yuri. Australia here in Sahul, which may be down under America, but is a day ahead of it. Is the 'future' of the Slavic way. Just as Western Europe is fading into America.
Australia is Egalitarian, which basically is much like Communism. But here we call it www.COMmunism.
Russians, via the USSR, were never meant to head eastward into Asia. That belongs to Yellow man. Russians and all Slavs are meant to come here.
Check out Queanbeyan, near Canberra. Full of Russians.
The sad news is that Yellow China is going to do to your Russia, what it can't do to USA. You best put you grief with Ukraine to sleep. China has already retaken land off you Russians and audaciously has over 600,000 Chinese citizens occupying your lands and Putin knows it and is too scared to do anything about it.
China will destroy white Russia and black India - thus reestablishing Asia for the Yellow man.
Best you Russians come here to Australia if you want to keep living.

Friend, your views still remain strange to me.
I know a different history of the dispersal of Europeans around the world.
If we take the era following the period of the early Renaissance, we see the wanderings of the Portuguese and Spanish discoverers. All of today's Latin America is the result of these discoveries. Therefore, I cannot accept your opinion that the Southern Europeans sat motionless in their territories.
And the Celts and Germans, i.e. France, Germany, Britain and Holland, divided the rest of the world among themselves and settled in North America, Australia, Africa and in addition colonies in Asia.

But why you decided that Slavs migrated to Australia is completely incomprehensible to me. I have never heard of any significant migration flows of Russians, Bulgarians, Czechs, Poles or other Slavic peoples to Australia.

As for the Scandinavians, after settling in Iceland a thousand years ago, their migration flows ceased.

As for the Russians, in the second half of the 16th century they began to subjugate the lands beyond the Ural Mountains, then there was the development of the territories of Siberia and the Far East, as well as the Caucasus and Central Asia.

On the 22 July 1816 an English ship with cargo of convicts – "Atlas" – entered the harbor of Sydney. Amongst the newcomers there was a tall dark-haired brown-eyed man with pale emaciated face with one blind eye. The roll call began. "Constantine Mil-cow-w!" – a local warden, receiving the live cargo, yelled with a falter. And Constantine which didn’t even try to explain that his surname in reality was "Milkov", habitually confirmed that he was Milcow, native of Moscow, 33 years of age, breaker by trade, sentenced in London on 10 May 1815, sent to Australia for seven years.

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Milkov may be counted as the first Russian convict in Australia and, most likely, the first permanent Russian resident in Australia, but not the first native of the Russian Empire.

John Potocki (1762-1824) – native of Belorussia who could speak Russian and, as he said, was an ex-servicemen of the Russian Army
He was arrested in England, deported to the colonies and arrived to Tasmania, which then was called Van Diemen’s Land, with the first Tasmanian fleet in 1804.

There was one more mysterious person amongst the natives of Russia deported to Australia – Joseph Aurora. Although he had called Russia his birthplace his ethnic origins remain unclear. He had black hair, dark eyes, olive skin. Even the surname "Aurora" causes doubts, as it’s typical of neither Slavic, nor other European languages. Obviously it was his alias or nickname. He was exiled for life to Australia. He arrived in Sydney on the "Earl Spencer" ship on 9 October 1813. But over here his tracks are lost. He either changed his name once again, or died, or escaped…

There also were many Russian ANZACS

Read Dr Elena Govor – historian and author of the books that were published both in Australia and Russia in English and Russian.

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Reply #81 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 3:52pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:52pm:

Russia will soon be 'practically' destroyed soon by 'Yellow' Asia.
You think they are your 'ally'?
They'll wait till Russia drains itself fighting their fellow 'Slavic' brothers and then the Yellow China will (get revenge for what the USSR did to it) unleash upon the now 'weaker' Russia.
Yellow Man sees resource rich Siberia as a good investment and a return to the north for the Yellow Race.
Invading Russia, is a far better, less costly and more profitable alternative for China than crossing an entire Ocean to fight the USA directly.

Do this. Because China 'will' get its revenge regardless.
There is a 'future' for Russians.
It's here - 'down under' in Australia. No need to head eastward into Yellow Asia anymore. Afterall - aren't you sick of the cold?

China prefers Australia as easier target in the way of resources, That's why it develops navy more then ground forces.

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Reply #82 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 6:32pm

Wow Tallowood. Never knew there were Slavs among those Slaves (convicts). Interesting.

China still gets heaps of resources sold and sent to it by Australia, which it builds it's immense War Machine with. China already has Australia under its thumb. Nothing more than that annoying piece of chewing gum under the shoe as a military threat.

AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16587 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Russian music Reply #83 - Nov 14^th, 2024 at 7:05pm
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RussiAnVetEraN Senior Member Offline Stunned Posts: 467 Zelenograd Gender:	Re: Russian music Reply #84 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:17am Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:52pm: Friend, it is indeed strange to you. Because it is 'new' to you. The problem is not that these ideas are new. The problem is that all these ideas have no basis (at least you have not provided me with any historical, economic or other basis).
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Reply #85 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:24am

tallowood wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 3:46pm:

On the 22 July 1816 an English ship with cargo of convicts – "Atlas" – entered the harbor of Sydney.

As historical information this is interesting, but as evidence of the existence of a powerful flow of Russians to Australia it is very weak. Only 31 people, of whom only one was indisputably Russian.

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RussiAnVetEraN Senior Member Offline Stunned Posts: 467 Zelenograd Gender:	Re: Russian music Reply #86 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 3:21pm Mumiy Troll (Мумий Тролль) Vladivostok 2000 (Владивосток 2000) A Trolleybus #4 (Четвёртый троллейбус) Honeysuckle (Жимолость)
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Reply #87 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 10:53pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:17am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 2:52pm:

Friend, it is indeed strange to you.
Because it is 'new' to you.

The problem is not that these ideas are new. The problem is that all these ideas have no basis (at least you have not provided me with any historical, economic or other basis).

Trust me. Australia isn't just 'down under' in subservience to North America and or Europe.
It's also a 'Day Ahead' of both, with N.America especially back there - at the 'End of the World's ( a theme which it is so fond of).
It isn't the conquest of 'space' here (like it was to discover N. America). It's all about 'Time' here. Like a 40,000 year Dreamtime for the aborigines, to the Convicts sent here to do time. The future, my dear Russian, is very predictable - especially when concerning nations who follow the past (back to ancient Rome &Athens for their politics).

It's all about 'Time' here Yuri.

When General Macarthur of the USA forces was in Korea for the Korean war, he said "We are here to help kick out the yellow Mongol from Asia" which cemented the fact that the Cold War with the USSR was a default war to turn the entire Northern Hemisphere 'all white' (like a yin/yang). Yellow people into Oceania. Brown people out of the Middle-East and here - the region of Sahul.
Don't laugh. It's as true as the USSR & USA holding the world 🌍 of darkies to ransom... because if white man couldn't have at least 1/2 the world, then they would destroy it (nuke it!).

But the world of human is more complex than some simpleton white people in the north (heaven) and darkies in the south (hell). So complex, that it's almost like the double-helix of DNA.

As you can see, that 'master plan/belief' has failed, with the yellow man rising in Asia to reaffirm his place there, as are the brownies of the Middle-East. They are there to stay.
No longer does Russia push east into Asia like the USSR did to converge with the white N.America to fullfill that all white northern hemisphere.

Time Yuri. That's all it takes. Like Islam waiting for its (French) Messiah to die for their Moslem sins, so they can finally be free of all things (military) Empire.

All that I must say is that Australia is the destiny of Russia and Slavic Europe. For something lost, is something gained.

And no. I'm not a Doctor trapped in a Police Box here.

Australia of the region of Sahul, will become the most powerful Art nation in the world. And British (true Western) politics will reclaim North America, for unlike Germany, soon France, then Italy. Great Britain will sacrifice itself for the political truth of the world and die, so its colonies shall live.

AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #89 - Nov 20^th, 2024 at 6:51am

Jasin wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 10:53pm:

[quote author=kapablanka link=1723723390/84#84 date=1731694639]Trust me. Australia isn't just 'down under' in subservience to North America and or Europe.
It's also a 'Day Ahead' of both, with N.America especially back there - at the 'End of the World's ( a theme which it is so fond of).
It isn't the conquest of 'space' here (like it was to discover N. America). It's all about 'Time' here. Like a 40,000 year Dreamtime for the aborigines, to the Convicts sent here to do time. The future, my dear Russian, is very predictable - especially when concerning nations who follow the past (back to ancient Rome &Athens for their politics).

It's all about 'Time' here Yuri.

When General Macarthur of the USA forces was in Korea for the Korean war, he said "We are here to help kick out the yellow Mongol from Asia" which cemented the fact that the Cold War with the USSR was a default war to turn the entire Northern Hemisphere 'all white' (like a yin/yang). Yellow people into Oceania. Brown people out of the Middle-East and here - the region of Sahul.
Don't laugh. It's as true as the USSR & USA holding the world 🌍 of darkies to ransom... because if white man couldn't have at least 1/2 the world, then they would destroy it (nuke it!).

But the world of human is more complex than some simpleton white people in the north (heaven) and darkies in the south (hell). So complex, that it's almost like the double-helix of DNA.

As you can see, that 'master plan/belief' has failed, with the yellow man rising in Asia to reaffirm his place there, as are the brownies of the Middle-East. They are there to stay.
No longer does Russia push east into Asia like the USSR did to converge with the white N.America to fullfill that all white northern hemisphere.

Time Yuri. That's all it takes. Like Islam waiting for its (French) Messiah to die for their Moslem sins, so they can finally be free of all things (military) Empire.

All that I must say is that Australia is the destiny of Russia and Slavic Europe. For something lost, is something gained.

And no. I'm not a Doctor trapped in a Police Box here.

Australia of the region of Sahul, will become the most powerful Art nation in the world. And British (true Western) politics will reclaim North America, for unlike Germany, soon France, then Italy. Great Britain will sacrifice itself for the political truth of the world and die, so its colonies shall live.

I will confess to you honestly. I do not trust those predictors of the future who are not even able to present what happened in the past in accordance with the facts.

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