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Plibersek and NSW Aborigines block gold mine
Aug 19th, 2024 at 9:56am
 
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Regis Resources Ltd (ASX:RRL, Regis) advises that it has received notice that the Federal Minister for Environment and Water, the Hon. Tanya Plibersek MP, has made a declaration of protection over part of the approved McPhillamys Gold Project (the Project) site which applies primarily to freehold land ultimately owned by Regis. The decision was made by declaration under Section 10 of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act 1984 (Cth) (Section 10 declaration).   

Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.

Regis further notes that this Project has already been assessed and approved under both State and Commonwealth legislation.

Regis Resources CEO & Managing Director Jim Beyer said, “Regis is extremely surprised and disappointed that, after a nearly four-year, protracted Section 10 assessment process, Minister Plibersek has concluded there are grounds to block the development of the McPhillamys Gold Project. This has effectively overridden the conclusions on this question that were already determined by the NSW Independent Planning Commission (IPC) and Minister Plibersek on approving the Project under the Environmental Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 (Cth) (EPBC Act). The referral made by Regis under the EPBC Act included an assessment of Aboriginal cultural heritage, which at that time, the Minister’s delegate did not note as a point of concern for the Project. 

“The recently released Definitive Feasibility Study (DFS) demonstrates that the Project has significant value, both for Regis and as an economic contributor to the local community and to all levels of government in the form of jobs, infrastructure, skills and training, procurement, council rates, state and federal taxes and royalties. Given this value, Regis has persevered in the face of a lengthy approvals process and was reassured with the feedback received from the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council (OLALC), the key local Aboriginal representative group, and their subsequent submission in relation to the Project to the IPC.”

As a consequence of this Section 10 declaration, Regis is forced to revisit the $190 million carrying value of the Project and its ability to continue to report the Project’s Ore Reserves. Regis must now also consider any ongoing expenditure commitments for McPhillamys. 

Regis is assessing the decision and is considering all legal options.

Section 10 Application Background

The Federal Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water received the Section 10 application in October 2020. After considering the Department’s advice, Minister Plibersek determined to make a declaration over part of the Belubula River, its headwaters and its springs, which falls within the footprint of the proposed tailings storage facility (TSF) for the Project. 

The Section 10 declaration prohibits any conduct that will, or is likely to, injure or desecrate the declared area. Regis is considering what activities fall within the prohibition created by the declaration; however, Page 1 Regis is concerned that this represents a disturbing precedent that has wider implications for all freehold landholdings.

Since Minister Plibersek’s Department was notified of the Section 10 application in October 2020, the Project has: 
- achieved development consent from the IPC, in March 2023, following a multi-year process, with its finding being that any potential harm to Aboriginal heritage, including intangible Aboriginal cultural heritage, can be acceptably managed through conditions of consent; and
- been assessed and approved in May 2023 by Minister Plibersek's delegate under the EPBC Act.

The IPC process included significant engagement with local Registered Aboriginal Parties and local Blayney community surveys recorded 70% support for the Project.

During the extensive engagement and consultation period of the NSW IPC process, a number of submissions were made in relation to the Aboriginal cultural heritage of this area, including the Section 10 applicants and the OLALC. Regis notes that OLALC holds legal authority to speak about the Aboriginal cultural heritage of this land (McPhillamys) as defined under Section 52 (4) of the Aboriginal Land Rights Act 1983 (NSW). Their submission stated that the proposed development (McPhillamys) would not impact any known sites or artefacts of high significance and that impacts on Aboriginal heritage could be appropriately managed and mitigated. Following due consideration of these submissions, the IPC was satisfied that any Aboriginal cultural heritage impacts would be appropriately managed. 

Regis understands that the decision by Minister Plibersek is unprecedented and directly contradicts the EPBC Act approval provided from within the Minister’s own department.
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Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:31am
 
Link to Regis Resources article!!!
https://wcsecure.weblink.com.au/clients/regis/v2/headline.aspx?headlineid=612210...

The mine can still go ahead it is the tailings that would have been dumped in the river that is being opposed....The miner has the option of finding an alternative tailings dam for the mine....So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you....Tell me Freediver, would you like cyanide dumped in your local river or creek or is it only because Aboriginal people are affected you missrepresent the truth and only post the companies propaganda???

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Plibersek said the protection order would take effect immediately and would not affect the development of the open-cut goldmine itself, which was approved in March 2023. The McPhillamys project, owned by Regis Resources, is expected to extract more than 60m tonnes of ore and produce 2m tonnes of gold over its 11-year lifespan.

“Crucially, my decision is not to stop the mine,” Plibersek said. “The company has indicated to me that it has assessed around four sites and 30 potential options for the tailings dam.

“Protecting cultural heritage and development are not mutually exclusive. We can have both.”


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Reply #2 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32am
 
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So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you


Directly from the announcement:

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Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Are you claiming that I wrote that announcement Phil?
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Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:46am
 
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32am:
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So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you


Directly from the announcement:

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Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Are you claiming that I wrote that announcement Phil?


No....It was provided by the company trying to dump cyanide into a river which has been blocked....The company does not want to spend more money protecting the environment by finding an alternative....The mine can still go ahead it has not been blocked as you and the company involved claim....So tell me Freediver, would you like cyanide dumped in your local river or creek or do you believe it is a good thing???

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Plibersek said the protection order would take effect immediately and would not affect the development of the open-cut goldmine itself, which was approved in March 2023. The McPhillamys project, owned by Regis Resources, is expected to extract more than 60m tonnes of ore and produce 2m tonnes of gold over its 11-year lifespan.

“Crucially, my decision is not to stop the mine,” Plibersek said. “The company has indicated to me that it has assessed around four sites and 30 potential options for the tailings dam.


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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/16/rare-order-given-...
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Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:51am
 
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The mine can still go ahead it is the tailings that would have been dumped in the river


Reminiscent of OK Teddy mine disaster in PNG.
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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:59am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:46am:
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32am:
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So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you


Directly from the announcement:

Quote:
Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Are you claiming that I wrote that announcement Phil?


No....It was provided by the company trying to dump cyanide into a river which has been blocked....The company does not want to spend more money protecting the environment by finding an alternative....The mine can still go ahead it has not been blocked as you and the company involved claim....So tell me Freediver, would you like cyanide dumped in your local river or creek or do you believe it is a good thing???

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Plibersek said the protection order would take effect immediately and would not affect the development of the open-cut goldmine itself, which was approved in March 2023. The McPhillamys project, owned by Regis Resources, is expected to extract more than 60m tonnes of ore and produce 2m tonnes of gold over its 11-year lifespan.

“Crucially, my decision is not to stop the mine,” Plibersek said. “The company has indicated to me that it has assessed around four sites and 30 potential options for the tailings dam.


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/16/rare-order-given-...


Can you explain why you attributed the claim to me, when the company who is building the mine clearly states that the Plibersek decision will block the mine?

Are you suggesting that Plibersek can force them to go ahead with it, even if they consider it uneconomical?

Or are you merely incapable of reading past a politician's spin?
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Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 11:19am
 
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:59am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:46am:
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32am:
Quote:
So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you


Directly from the announcement:

Quote:
Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Are you claiming that I wrote that announcement Phil?


No....It was provided by the company trying to dump cyanide into a river which has been blocked....The company does not want to spend more money protecting the environment by finding an alternative....The mine can still go ahead it has not been blocked as you and the company involved claim....So tell me Freediver, would you like cyanide dumped in your local river or creek or do you believe it is a good thing???

Quote:
Plibersek said the protection order would take effect immediately and would not affect the development of the open-cut goldmine itself, which was approved in March 2023. The McPhillamys project, owned by Regis Resources, is expected to extract more than 60m tonnes of ore and produce 2m tonnes of gold over its 11-year lifespan.

“Crucially, my decision is not to stop the mine,” Plibersek said. “The company has indicated to me that it has assessed around four sites and 30 potential options for the tailings dam.


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/16/rare-order-given-...


Can you explain why you attributed the claim to me, when the company who is building the mine clearly states that the Plibersek decision will block the mine?

Are you suggesting that Plibersek can force them to go ahead with it, even if they consider it uneconomical?

Or are you merely incapable of reading past a politician's spin?


The company has been banned from dumping cyanide into the river....Do you support dumping cyanide into local rivers Freediver you won't say....The spin is you and the company claiming the mine has been banned when it is the tailings dam that has been rejected not the mine....You are a master of spin and stupidity Freediver!!!

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Reply #7 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 12:44pm
 
NIMBY FleaDriver loves having cyanide dumped into other people's water.
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Reply #8 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:12pm
 
"this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable."

Translates:-  "Oh - we're not going to stop you - we only want to remove one or two wheels from your car - a few planks from the hull of your boat .... a couple of wings from your aircraft!  We're not Neo-Nazi Neo-Stalinist Feudal Despot Robber Barons here with a totally false idea of our rights and prerogatives...."

Now that's what I call lawfare and chicanery of governments, our masters and ruling class who will not be denied one way or another.   Plebianseeker can no longer send some armed men to a village to quiet its refusal to comply.. teach it its place - she can use the rules handed to her by legislation to do that instead......

The greatest enemy of government is democracy - conversely the greatest enemy of democracy is government - ESPECIALLY - but not exclusively - when in the wrong hands.
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Reply #9 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Can you explain why you attributed the claim to me, when the company who is building the mine clearly states that the Plibersek decision will block the mine?


Did the company write the thread title too FD? Cheesy
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Reply #10 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:56pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 11:19am:
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:59am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:46am:
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32am:
Quote:
So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you


Directly from the announcement:

Quote:
Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Are you claiming that I wrote that announcement Phil?


No....It was provided by the company trying to dump cyanide into a river which has been blocked....The company does not want to spend more money protecting the environment by finding an alternative....The mine can still go ahead it has not been blocked as you and the company involved claim....So tell me Freediver, would you like cyanide dumped in your local river or creek or do you believe it is a good thing???

Quote:
Plibersek said the protection order would take effect immediately and would not affect the development of the open-cut goldmine itself, which was approved in March 2023. The McPhillamys project, owned by Regis Resources, is expected to extract more than 60m tonnes of ore and produce 2m tonnes of gold over its 11-year lifespan.

“Crucially, my decision is not to stop the mine,” Plibersek said. “The company has indicated to me that it has assessed around four sites and 30 potential options for the tailings dam.


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/16/rare-order-given-...


Can you explain why you attributed the claim to me, when the company who is building the mine clearly states that the Plibersek decision will block the mine?

Are you suggesting that Plibersek can force them to go ahead with it, even if they consider it uneconomical?

Or are you merely incapable of reading past a politician's spin?


The company has been banned from dumping cyanide into the river....Do you support dumping cyanide into local rivers Freediver you won't say....The spin is you and the company claiming the mine has been banned when it is the tailings dam that has been rejected not the mine....You are a master of spin and stupidity Freediver!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


The company did not say the mine was 'banned'. Again, this is what the company said:

Quote:
To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Is there anything at all unclear in that Phil?
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Reply #11 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 2:08pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 12:44pm:
NIMBY FleaDriver loves having cyanide dumped into other people's water.


Just like certain ideologues consider Australian land to be Stolen Aboriginal Land except their own..... that's sacred since they support the fruitless whinging of the Aborigines for 'their land' and everyone else, being a bastard Black killer, should apologise and hand it all back (yardle).... they don't want the land to work it or work with it (they never did BTW - just walked on it a bit) - they want it for the rent it can accrue.

First time the losers got to demand rent.... can't give 'em Mansell and the Voice's separate state (fully funded of course and only on prime land) because they'd continue to kill one another a la Wadeye - can't just hand 'em vast swathes of land to close off, not in a democracy of equals - can't allow 'em to continue to be a 'separate but unequal' race by their own choices - can't allow 'em to be a fifth column infiltrating every part of society, part of it but against it swimming in a sea of fish who can't think straight - can't give 'em a totally separate entirely bordered/walled off state/Homeland because all the dicks call that racist (even when the Aborigines themselves demanded it) - oh, well - guess they'll just have to accept assimilation or just go their own way without us.

Seriously - think for a moment - some bloke way out in the Ning Nang Nong wants the massive hilltop mansion with all the mod cons in a beautiful ocean view area, just for the asking and like them wharte fullahs in their big houses got ... and all that while never having held a job, earned money to buy land and house, or even living in a place or a way that will enable such a thing!  Still they get - on demand - air conditioned cyclone proof houses built for them - The White Man's Way - in Arnhem Land as a right!!

Jeez - I reckon many a young couple setting out these days would like a deal like that... equity, innit?   Cool
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Reply #12 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 2:15pm
 
Cyanide you say?  Water tanks for Parliament House and dump it there.  Won't affect pollies and their mates - they don't drink water ... now when the canteen provides excellent drinks cheap...

Pollies and staff should live in the equivalent of Tent City - just to keep a grip on the realities out there...

**Pulls up rock for fireside chat:-

"Y'know, all we civilised people figured that the Cambodians did the wrong thing pushing all their people, rich and poor, out into the fields to grow rice, learn some humility.  I can see that the theory has merit, especially when I see the kind of people we're getting in politics these days - and not just those elected - look at the antics of some of their staff and their appointees... Jesus would weep!  All dead easy when you've got the keys to the richest piggy bank in the land...

Anyway - we could put the bastards all out to work for a change - and for some small change for a change - and see which ones of 'em actually come up to scratch.... I reckon you won't find many ...

That'll do yez for the day - I know you can't keep up with the simple realities of Australian life and culture... like the politician class - you KNOW what the problems are - you just don't want to actually fix them.... it's just an internet game to some of yez ..."
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Reply #13 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 3:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 11:19am:
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:59am:
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:46am:
freediver wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32am:
Quote:
So claiming the proposed gold mine has been blocked is more bullshit from you


Directly from the announcement:

Quote:
Minister Plibersek has stated that this declaration “will not stop the mine”. To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Are you claiming that I wrote that announcement Phil?


No....It was provided by the company trying to dump cyanide into a river which has been blocked....The company does not want to spend more money protecting the environment by finding an alternative....The mine can still go ahead it has not been blocked as you and the company involved claim....So tell me Freediver, would you like cyanide dumped in your local river or creek or do you believe it is a good thing???

Quote:
Plibersek said the protection order would take effect immediately and would not affect the development of the open-cut goldmine itself, which was approved in March 2023. The McPhillamys project, owned by Regis Resources, is expected to extract more than 60m tonnes of ore and produce 2m tonnes of gold over its 11-year lifespan.

“Crucially, my decision is not to stop the mine,” Plibersek said. “The company has indicated to me that it has assessed around four sites and 30 potential options for the tailings dam.


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/16/rare-order-given-...


Can you explain why you attributed the claim to me, when the company who is building the mine clearly states that the Plibersek decision will block the mine?

Are you suggesting that Plibersek can force them to go ahead with it, even if they consider it uneconomical?

Or are you merely incapable of reading past a politician's spin?


The company has been banned from dumping cyanide into the river....Do you support dumping cyanide into local rivers Freediver you won't say....The spin is you and the company claiming the mine has been banned when it is the tailings dam that has been rejected not the mine....You are a master of spin and stupidity Freediver!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


The company did not say the mine was 'banned'. Again, this is what the company said:

Quote:
To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area of the Project development site and means the Project is not viable. Regis notes that during the Section 10 assessment process, it was made clear to the Minister that the Project would not be viable if the Section 10 declaration was made and that, while a number of alternatives were considered early in the design process, the Project does not have any currently viable alternative infrastructure locations.


Is there anything at all unclear in that Phil?



No....You are a liar and a flake....The mine has not been blocked it is the dumping of tailings into the local river that is opposed!!!

The company did not write the headline you did!!!

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Plibersek and NSW Aborigines block gold mine


How do you justify this lie Freediver....Do you support dumping cyanide into local rivers Freediver....You won't say???

Should enviromental concerns be ignored for profit....Would you like cyanide dumped in your favourite fishing spot Freediver....You won't say???

What is it you are actually complaining about Freediver....You won't say???

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Reply #14 - Aug 19th, 2024 at 3:24pm
 
Freediver has no concerns about the environmental impact of Gold mining....Making profits is more important than protecting the environment!!!

Quote:
Contamination fears grow as Cadia confirms mine waste leak near Orange

A gold mine near Orange in the New South Wales Central West has confirmed its waste storage facilities are leaking.

The leak has sparked fears of broadscale groundwater contamination in the farmland surrounding the Cadia gold mine, which is owned by the Newmont Corporation.

Guy Fitzhardinge runs beef cattle on his property, which flanks the southern tip of Cadia's boundary, and shares ground and surface water sources with the mine.

He does not yet know if the water on his property is affected, but he is concerned it could impact his operation because producers must declare livestock exposure to contaminants.

"I was only recently made aware of the extent of the problem," Dr Fitzhardinge said.


Freediver sees no problem with dumping arsenic, zinc, manganese and sulphates into waterways....What could go wrong....Freediver defends the rights of big corporations to pollute in the name of profit!!!

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Stupidity cannot be solved with more stupidity!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-14/cadia-gold-mine-confirms-mine-waste-stora...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352801X20303775
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