It's scary Brian -
but it's still been cold in Southern Australia.

Let's just discard the unusual nature of the weather, hey, Lee?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 26^th, 2024 at 4:38pm:


"Expert".

Bobby. wrote on Aug 26^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:


That is because you live so far south, you are only a few thousand kilometres from Antarctica. You are below the upper level trough, but far enough south that you will only experience the winds from the Southern Ocean.

My peach tree usually start to flower in mid July but this year it is August. It won't beat fruit flies without spraying, which I don't like to do.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29^th, 2024 at 11:30am:

Portent of doom for the Summer.

Heat, dust, and fire.

Australia is tectonically slowly moving North.

Quote:

Quote:

So now climate change impacts plate tectonics?

"The authors’ interpretations are based on a strong observed correlation between plate tectonic processes, paleogeography, and periods of colder and warmer climate. However, numerous processes modify global climate, and various problems must be solved before
this hypothesis can be tested with Earth system models that predict weathering fluxes and CO2 sources."

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aax1657

Correlation is not causation.

'As air speeds up, its pressure goes down. So the faster-moving air above exerts less pressure on the wing than the slower-moving air below'.
'Greater activity of the heated molecules increases the spacing between neighboring molecules and thus reduces air density. The decreasing air density then lowers the pressure exerted by the air. Warm air is thus lighter (less dense) than cold air and consequently exerts less pressure'.

The Roaring Forties drag Australia down but the Tropics take it to Bali with the eastern states spinning 1cm faster/ year.  This can only increase with coal sales to China.

Tropic air pressure drops .6KPa with 1 degree C rise.
Roaring Forties pressure drops 2.2KPa with 1 degree C rise in wind speed.  This gives 1.6Kpa southward force.
However, the wind-load is 2KPa at maximum Roaring Forties velocity on Tasmania at 200kmh (which doesn't affect West Australia at that latitude).  This moves Australia north with .4KPa force, rotating the land-mass counter clockwise.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 29^th, 2024 at 4:15pm:


So your last reference indicates the opposite. Climate change is an effect, not a cause.

chimera wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:21pm:


Link?

And NONE of your references mentions AGW.

Chimera's hair is on fire.

The Roaring Forties used to move Tasmania at 40mm year, with locals reporting the grinding sound. It's now 70mm.

chimera wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:


link?

link for lee
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 29^th, 2024 at 2:32pm:


70mm.

chimera wrote on Sep 5^th, 2024 at 3:43am:

to post #35.  Solid physics and AGW tectonics.

Yes of course:
Member Run Boards › Environment › 40 degrees in August?

'Arctic near-surface wind speed (NWS) plays an increasingly crucial role in influencing the local air-sea interactions and the safety of trans-Arctic shipping, .. Using reanalysis and model simulation data sets, we reveal that the Arctic NWS has increased remarkably since the 1960s, with the strongest increase in the Arctic Ocean surface. . in a warming climate'.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2024GL109385
'The volcanoes on the peninsula have been dormant for around 800 years, but since 2021, there have been eight separate eruptions.'
'“There are two mechanisms at work,” the marine geoscientist said. “Large parts of Iceland were covered by ice caps. When they melt, there is less pressure on the magma chamber. So, for the magma it is easier to break the rock and travel to the Earth’s surface. This has caused the increase in volcanic activity in central Iceland in the past two decades. “The other mechanism is that hot rock melts when the overburden pressure reduces. This can be achieved by upward movement of the rock mass, which is the typical melt generation mechanism at hot spot volcanic systems, or directly by the melting of an overlying ice cap.”
https://news.miami.edu/stories/2024/04/iceland-the-land-of-fire-and-ice.html

An Australian break-through has exposed the wind-load force on Iceland, where AGW tectonics can't be denied.
'Iceland spreads 18–19 mm/year eastward.  Iceland's strongest measured 10-minute sustained wind speed is 225 km/h and the strongest gust 267 km/h.    The volcanic region in northern Tasmania is located in the Launceston area. The basaltic lava flows are located in valleys which drain into Bass Strait.'

lee wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 12:45pm:


Chimera doesn't "think".

chimera wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:


Please get it right.

"NewNew Star"

"The vessel’s owner, Yangpu NewNew Shipping Company"

https://gcaptain.com/chinese-container-ship-becomes-largest-to-travel-through-ar...

chimera wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 9:59am:

So you think it's 'NewNew Star' after splinters of ice at 267kmh have blasted the gloss paint? There's volcanic ash, dead seagulls and crew vomit and the owners find it hard to recognise her anymore.

lee wrote on Aug 26^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:


https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/mythbusters?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKC...

The Synthesis Report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), released in March 2023, categorically confirmed that human activity is the overwhelming cause of climate change. The IPCC’s comprehensive assessments are written by hundreds of leading scientists from around the globe, with contributions from thousands of experts, and endorsed by the governments of every country in the world.

Ok..let's ignore the world's governments, most of whom are incompetent; but your quoted statement (ie IPCC AR4) is not a rejection of the IPCC position quoted by me.

The former merely states it's impossible to predict actual outcomes at any particular time in the future, though it is possible to confirm human activity is the 'overwhelming'  cause of climate change.

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:


Let us be very realistic here. If the entire planet's population decided to be environmentally friendly to their best abilities, the world would still have climate change. The only considerable difference being that at least the world would be clean.

The only parts of "human activity" that you can consider driving climate change would be the records of pollution (air, light and noise), and urban heat. Or you could factor in stuff like extinction levels of plant and animal species.

chimera wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 4:12pm:



Link?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 10:41pm:


I think she means this:
https://www.cnrs.fr/en/press/subduction-zone-geometry-mega-earthquake-risk-indic...

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6^th, 2024 at 11:33pm:

Subduction zones are the major surface expression of the mantle convection process, provide the main driving mechanism for plate tectonics. Subduction zones occur in a horseshoe shape around the edge of the Pacific Ocean,  Canada, Russia, Japan and Indonesia to New Zealand and the southern edge of South America.

'Russia's territory, however, has been warming almost twice as fast as land globally – at 0.51C per decade'. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/environment/climate-change-russia-is-heating-up-almost-...
 'warming across Canada has been about twice the global average and in the Canadian Arctic, the warming has been about three times higher.'
https://news.westernu.ca/2024/01/expert-insight-canada-is-warming-faster-than-an...

Putin rejects western dominance in warming and has ordered increased heating from Russian forest fires. Alexander Kozlov, Minister of Natural Resources and Environment, is responsible. He is at 4/6 Bolshaya Gruzinskaya Ulitsa, Moscow, and has a target of .75 C per decade. Under Putin's strong grip even reaching 1 degree is possible if all forests are burning using Siberian gas and oil, 24/7. Ukraine wheat-fields are an obvious heat source. Volcanic magma is at a tipping point.

The global warming effect of moving Australia by wind-force is being developed by Mr UnSubRocky and junior partner Chimera.
The only references are in OzPol which is a major centre of Geography, Alcohol and Trump.  Watch this space.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 3:09pm:


Bobby, the climate could bend you into a hunchback from temperature differentials.

Cold on one side and hot on the other.

In Bobby's bent-over condition, he could be victimized by Melbourne's lawless black scourge.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 3:09pm:

It says ~8.5cm/ year.
The planet is heated. Plates are subducted. The magma flow is balanced.  Heat will add instability. At ~8.5 cm/ year.