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Re: Labors scared the greens will beat them!
Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2024 at 12:38pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 28^th, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28^th, 2024 at 12:14am:

The time has come, mes enfants, for the people to demand that the number of states be increased and for the current huge states with their centralised and out of touch governments be dismantled.

Wrong as usual, Gough was right: the states should be abolished, and replaced with local councils, to stop the buck passing between the states and the Commonwealth

(Councils would be financed by the Commnwealth on a needs basis; public hospitals, public schools and public transport would be funded by the Oz treasury, Oz wide).

I'm never wrong - local councils are the worst. As usual - you are merely jealous that I have the answers and you have none. Not my fault.... I Yam What I Yam ....

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Reply #16 - Aug 30^th, 2024 at 8:24pm

The greens hold the balance of power in the senate. Yes there is a good chance the greens can increase their numbers. Not just in the Senate, but also in the house of Representatives. People are looking for change. Not just labor, liberal, labor, liberal, labor, liberal. Whatever people think of the greens, they do have some very good ideas. So whoever does win government be it labor or liberal, it might be a good idea to start negotiating with the greens.

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Re: Labors scared the greens will beat them!
Reply #18 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 11:57am

whiteknight wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 8:24pm:

The greens hold the balance of power in the senate. Yes there is a good chance the greens can increase their numbers. Not just in the Senate, but also in the house of Representatives. People are looking for change. Not just labor, liberal, labor, liberal, labor, liberal. Whatever people think of the greens, they do have some very good ideas. So whoever does win government be it labor or liberal, it might be a good idea to start negotiating with the greens.

'I am more than happy for the State to give me my Rights; what is not acceptable is that the State attempt to compel me to accept its Wrongs, nor that it demand that I accept a trade-off between Right and Wrong - that in return for some Right, I should accept equal or greater Wrong'.

- Rastus Xavier.

That, to me, is the essence of the Greens. A few right things is not enough when accompanied by some very bad things.

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Re: Labors scared the greens will beat them!
Reply #19 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 28^th, 2024 at 4:46pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 28^th, 2024 at 12:02pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2024 at 11:09pm:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-smacks-greens-for-grandstanding-at...

Seems everyone hates Albo?

That's because Albo and Chalmers, like the Coalition, has fallen for Thatcher's neoliberal low-tax, and hence low government spending regime, meaning public schools and hospitals are underfunded.

At least the Greens have the integrity to insist on higher taxes, to deliver adequate public services.

The Conservatives of course are driven by personal enrichment at the expense of the general welfare, hence entrenched poverty and soaring inequality, as Labor also appeals to self-interest via the ever-lower taxes regime.

they need to be much much lower

starve the beast

You secretly fomenting the Revolution?

Cool.....

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Re: Labors scared the greens will beat them!
Reply #20 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 12:55pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 29^th, 2024 at 12:38pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 28^th, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28^th, 2024 at 12:14am:

The time has come, mes enfants, for the people to demand that the number of states be increased and for the current huge states with their centralised and out of touch governments be dismantled.

Wrong as usual, Gough was right: the states should be abolished, and replaced with local councils, to stop the buck passing between the states and the Commonwealth

(Councils would be financed by the Commnwealth on a needs basis; public hospitals, public schools and public transport would be funded by the Oz treasury, Oz wide).

I'm never wrong - local councils are the worst. As usual - you are merely jealous that I have the answers and you have none. Not my fault.... I Yam What I Yam ....

You piting your intelligence againt Gough's (...laughter is the best medicine).

Local councils should be amalgamated into regional governments - Gough's plan for 2 levels of government instead of the present ridiculous 3 levels, with the nation's purse strings managed by the national government to stop the buck passing.

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Re: Labors scared the greens will beat them!
Reply #21 - Sep 1^st, 2024 at 5:49pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 31^st, 2024 at 11:57am:

whiteknight wrote on Aug 30^th, 2024 at 8:24pm:

The greens hold the balance of power in the senate. Yes there is a good chance the greens can increase their numbers. Not just in the Senate, but also in the house of Representatives. People are looking for change. Not just labor, liberal, labor, liberal, labor, liberal. Whatever people think of the greens, they do have some very good ideas. So whoever does win government be it labor or liberal, it might be a good idea to start negotiating with the greens.

'I am more than happy for the State to give me my Rights; what is not acceptable is that the State attempt to compel me to accept its Wrongs, nor that it demand that I accept a trade-off between Right and Wrong - that in return for some Right, I should accept equal or greater Wrong'.

- Rastus Xavier.

That, to me, is the essence of the Greens. A few right things is not enough when accompanied by some very bad things.

Is that not every political party?

Albo has done some good things.
His also been completely and utterly useless on others.

I suggest Tony Abbot fixed our great goat track known as the pacific highway but is obviously one our worse PMs in history.

Our system of government is such that every party has to negotiate to legislate.

This allows different views on the same subject and more often ends in amendments that improve the law or water it down so much it’s completely useless.

Our system of government I believe is fantastic , it’s just the pathetic / criminals/ child sex offenders individuals that we have to choose from to form the government that’s the issue

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